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The Circular Firing Squad
Author: BobR    Date: 08/02/2013 12:10:39

Anyone who remembers the Republican party of the "aughts" - that is, the years GW Bush was president - remembers a party that marched in lockstep. They were disciplined, on message, and formidable. Even now, they tend to vote unanimously, even when it's against something they used to support (just because President Obama supports it). After a few bad election cycles, however, the cracks are showing, and self-preservation and grandstanding are replacing the loyalty they once had.

Take a look at the Transportation bill (also known as the Transportation and Housing and Urban Development bill, or "THUD". I am not kidding). The Ryan plan was to make deep cuts to spending, but some Republicans are balking, and the Paul Ryan (R-WI) accolytes are not happy:
Long-running Republican tensions over the Ryan budget’s deep spending cuts boiled over Wednesday as the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee accused his party of being unable to support them.

In a blistering statement, Chairman Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) said he was “extremely disappointed” with his leadership’s decision to pull the Transportation and Housing and Urban Development (THUD) spending bill from the floor.

Leadership said they simply ran out of time — but Rogers charged that wasn’t the real reason.

He hinted that a vote on the measure was scrapped because leaders didn’t have the votes to support the deep cuts he was directed to write, and accused Republicans of effectively abandoning House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) budget.

Ouch. There are plenty more examples of this sort of thing. "Morning Joe" viewers know that Joe Scarborough is a Republican, although generally a more moderate one who doesn't tolerate the extreme stupidity some members of his party display. He recently lambasted Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX):
"Have you seen what Ted Cruz is doing? Ted Cruz is attacking anybody who’s not willing to shut down the government over Obamacare. He’s lambasting fellow conservatives like Tom Coburn — Tom Coburn! — and saying that he serves in the 'surrender caucus'. I need to be very careful about what I’m going to say here, Ted Cruz comes in obviously so completely ignorant about the war that Tom Coburn has been fighting for twenty years, and to say something like this about Tom Coburn — Ted Cruz, he is a total train wreck."

Of course, everyone remembers House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) saying Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) was "dead wrong" for suggesting the U.S. boycott the Olympics in Russia because they wouldn't extradite NSA leaker Snowden. A better reason to boycott is Russia's threat to enforce their anti-gay laws on athletes. I suppose that means no men's figure skating (I kid! I kid!)

Boehner has also criticized Rep. Peter King (R-NY) for his comments about Mexican children being used as drug mules:
“I want to be clear: There’s no place in this debate for hateful or ignorant comments from elected officials,” Boehner said. “Earlier this week, Rep. Steve King made comments that I think were deeply offensive and wrong. What he said does not reflect the values of the American people or the Republican Party, and we all need to do our work in an open, constructive and respectful way. As I’ve said many times, we can disagree without being disagreeable.”

In an interview with Newsmax, King depicted as criminal drug runners the immigrant children that both Democrats and many Republicans want to legalize.

Peter King has criticized Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), saying he is reminiscent of "Hitler Appeasers":
Speaking to CNN on Wednesday, King compared Paul to those who advocated a policy of appeasement towards Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

"He talks about us wanting to start wars and somehow people enjoy war and he talks about how we want to bomb everything," he said. "Is that what he thinks our military does?"

"What this reminds me of, someone like Senator Paul and others in that isolationist wing," King continued, "you know the Republicans had this debate back in the 1930s when you had the isolationists and the Charles Lindberghs saying we should appease Hitler, then the Democrats had it in the 1960s when the anti-war movement blamed America first and in both cases it hurt the party for years, each party was hurt for years."

Of course, everyone is familiar with the ongoing feud between Rand Paul and Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ). Originally, Paul tried to withhold Hurricane Sandy relief, which didn't endear him to the governor. Christie has criticized Paul's libertarian anti-military position. Paul responded by saying "They’re precisely the same people who are unwilling to cut the spending, and their `Gimme, gimme, gimme – give me all my Sandy money now". Christie retorted that NJ pays more in taxes than they get back in government spending, and Kentucky gets more in government spending than they pay in taxes (which is true), effectively making Kentucky a welfare state. Paul cried uncle, and invited Christie to a beer summit, which Christie has declined.

Christie has also criticized John Boehner in the past for delaying Hurricane Sandy relief:
In a State House news conference, Christie blasted Republican U.S. House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio for delaying a vote on a $60 billion aid package for Superstorm Sandy recovery.

"Do your job and come through for the people of this country," Christie pointedly said about Boehner.
[...]
The bill "could not overcome the toxic internal politics of the House majority," Christie said.
[...]
"There is no reason for me at the moment to believe anything they tell me because they've been telling me stuff for weeks and they haven't delivered," Christie said.

And that brings us full circle: Boehner criticizes King, who criticizes Paul, who criticizes Christie, who criticizes Boehner. It is literally a circular firing squad.

Fire away.
 

49 comments (Latest Comment: 08/02/2013 22:10:44 by Will in Chicago)
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Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 12:40:50
Boehner criticizes King, who criticizes Paul, who criticizes Christie, who criticizes Boehner. It is literally a circular firing squad.



Good morning!

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 13:05:15
It is so nice to see these gentlemen flagrantly violating St Ronnie of Santa Barbara's 11 Commandment, "Do not speak ill of a fellow Republican." Keep it up fellas, keep it up.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/02/2013 13:12:24
Morning

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 13:29:16


Hello Flo, a tampon delivery service. Ladies of das Blog, opinions?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 13:39:35
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 14:21:09
Mala, Linda Says Hello.

Comment by BobR on 08/02/2013 14:24:09

Regardless of intention, wouldn't it have the effect of driving up premiums? "I would not say it will drive up premiums for older Americans, I would say it will allow premiums to rise," he said. "It would allow premiums to rise faster than they otherwise would if everybody bought the overpriced coverage, including the younger, healthier people."

fork-tongued assholes.

Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 14:24:30
Quote by Mondobubba:


Hello Flo, a tampon delivery service. Ladies of das Blog, opinions?
I think it's brilliant. A really great ad and a really great idea for young ladies.


Comment by wickedpam on 08/02/2013 14:27:13
Quote by Raine:
Mala, Linda Says Hello.



Hey back at her *waves*

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 14:35:16
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:


Hello Flo, a tampon delivery service. Ladies of das Blog, opinions?
I think it's brilliant. A really great ad and a really great idea for young ladies.



I thought so as well, but since I'm a dude it's not part of my world. Clever is clever though.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 14:37:46
Quote by BobR:

Regardless of intention, wouldn't it have the effect of driving up premiums? "I would not say it will drive up premiums for older Americans, I would say it will allow premiums to rise,"� he said. "It would allow premiums to rise faster than they otherwise would if everybody bought the overpriced coverage, including the younger, healthier people."�

fork-tongued assholes.



I was watching the "News Hour" a couple weeks back and they had the fork-tongued spokesliar and someone who had a realistic vision for having young people get health insurance having a discussion about this. Part of my love-hate with the News Hour; that whole "balanced" idea.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 14:40:34
Good morning, bloggers!! I hope that everyone is well.

BobR, I have noticed how the GOP is coming apart at the seams. I think it is appropriate. They are now a party that would not have room for someone with the opinions of Dwight Eisenhower, Senator Everett Dirksen, John Anderson and even Richard Nixon. I doubt that Ronald Reagan could make it through a primary.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 14:46:20
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by BobR:

Regardless of intention, wouldn't it have the effect of driving up premiums? "I would not say it will drive up premiums for older Americans, I would say it will allow premiums to rise,"� he said. "It would allow premiums to rise faster than they otherwise would if everybody bought the overpriced coverage, including the younger, healthier people."�

fork-tongued assholes.



I was watching the "News Hour" a couple weeks back and they had the fork-tongued spokesliar and someone who had a realistic vision for having young people get health insurance having a discussion about this. Part of my love-hate with the News Hour; that whole "balanced" idea.


Balance does not consist of putting on a person with the most extreme views and balancing it off with someone who is in a moderate position.

As for FreedomJerks, I hope that they continue to lose the policy debate and eventually close their offices.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 14:50:30
Here are two links to articles that I heard about yesterday while listening to Bob Kincaid on the Head On Radio Network. They concern a private organization that works to discredit activist movements, using the old strategy of divide and conquer.

From MintPressnews.com:

Divide And Conquer: Unpacking Stratfor’s Rise To Power and

How To Win The Media War Against Grassroots Activists: Stratfor’s Strategies


Would that the GOP and their corporate backers could just come out and admit that they just wish to reinstate feudalism. I would still oppose an agenda that favors the upper 1 percent over everyone else, but the honesty would be refreshing.




Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:05:46
Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 15:11:43



Ariel Castro was engaged in finding any way to cast blame on anyone or anything but himself. May the next thing we hear of him is that he is coming out of prison in a box nailed shut or a can of ashes, which should be welded shut.

Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 15:14:52
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:29:03



Still better that a color-coded terror forecast.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 15:30:13



It makes me understand why some Americans traveling abroad try to pass as Canadian.

Now here are some thoughts on Paul Krugman in the New York Times that relates to the theme of today's blog -- but is worse than the GOP infighting. Their failure to govern may cost our nation dearly;

Chaos Looms by Paul Krugman

Right now, if inherent importance were all that mattered, I wouldn’t be writing about the effects of sprawl, or the Fed succession, or even, probably, about China’s brick-wall problem. I would instead be writing all the time about the looming chaos in U.S. governance.

In the short run the point is that Republican leaders are about to reap the whirlwind, because they haven’t had the courage to tell the base that Obamacare is here to stay, that the sequester is in fact intolerable, and that in general they have at least for now lost the war over the shape of American society. As a result, we’re looking at many drama-filled months, with a high probability of government shutdowns and even debt defaults.

Over the longer run the point is that one of America’s two major political parties has basically gone off the deep end; policy content aside, a sane party doesn’t hold dozens of votes declaring its intention to repeal a law that everyone knows will stay on the books regardless. And since that party continues to hold substantial blocking power, we are looking at a country that’s increasingly ungovernable.


Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:31:55
One of the first things that my dreamed of Democratic super-majority in the House and Senate does as their first order of business is remove St. Ronnie of Santa Barbara's name from National Airport.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/02/2013 15:32:11
Don't you hate it when you get sucked into a Pintrest rabbit hole of complete fluff and nonsense?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:32:11
One of the first things that my dreamed of Democratic super-majority in the House and Senate does as their first order of business is remove St. Ronnie of Santa Barbara's name from National Airport.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/02/2013 15:32:58
Quote by Mondobubba:
One of the first things that my dreamed of Democratic super-majority in the House and Senate does as their first order of business is remove St. Ronnie of Santa Barbara's name from National Airport.



doubt that's ever gonna happen - still refuse to call it anything but National

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:33:22
Quote by wickedpam:
Don't you hate it when you get sucked into a Pintrest rabbit hole of complete fluff and nonsense?



(Warning! I am about to deride Pintrest) Isn't that about 80% of Pintrest?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:38:34
My homage to MGM's homage to Magritte has worked! I confused the hell out one of the supervisors!

Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 15:39:55
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Here are two links to articles that I heard about yesterday while listening to Bob Kincaid on the Head On Radio Network. They concern a private organization that works to discredit activist movements, using the old strategy of divide and conquer.

From MintPressnews.com:

Divide And Conquer: Unpacking Stratfor’s Rise To Power and

How To Win The Media War Against Grassroots Activists: Stratfor’s Strategies


Would that the GOP and their corporate backers could just come out and admit that they just wish to reinstate feudalism. I would still oppose an agenda that favors the upper 1 percent over everyone else, but the honesty would be refreshing.


Will, Do you remember when I wrote this? We have that problem on the our side of the aisle as well.

I have understood what Stratfor has been doing for a while




Comment by wickedpam on 08/02/2013 15:43:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Don't you hate it when you get sucked into a Pintrest rabbit hole of complete fluff and nonsense?



(Warning! I am about to deride Pintrest) Isn't that about 80% of Pintrest?



well, ya of course it is - that is why I enjoy it


Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 15:48:22
Interesting article from Strafor regarding the NSA

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:48:39
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Don't you hate it when you get sucked into a Pintrest rabbit hole of complete fluff and nonsense?



(Warning! I am about to deride Pintrest) Isn't that about 80% of Pintrest?



well, ya of course it is - that is why I enjoy it



More power to ya!

Comment by TriSec on 08/02/2013 15:55:37
Not bad, for the worst team in baseball!

(Considering that it was 7-1 the other way at the stretch....)



Comment by wickedpam on 08/02/2013 15:56:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Don't you hate it when you get sucked into a Pintrest rabbit hole of complete fluff and nonsense?



(Warning! I am about to deride Pintrest) Isn't that about 80% of Pintrest?



well, ya of course it is - that is why I enjoy it



More power to ya!



I've learned some valuable things from Pintrest - that's were I got the idea for the sea salt caramel brownies

Comment by Scoopster on 08/02/2013 15:59:05
Mornin' all & Happy Fridee..

Just wanted to pop in & assure you that I'm still alive.. albeit pretty miserable from this cold.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:59:08
Quote by TriSec:
Not bad, for the worst team in baseball!

(Considering that it was 7-1 the other way at the stretch....)




You mean the Mariners, right?

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 15:59:36
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Don't you hate it when you get sucked into a Pintrest rabbit hole of complete fluff and nonsense?



(Warning! I am about to deride Pintrest) Isn't that about 80% of Pintrest?



well, ya of course it is - that is why I enjoy it



More power to ya!



I've learned some valuable things from Pintrest - that's were I got the idea for the sea salt caramel brownies





Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 16:06:09
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Fridee..

Just wanted to pop in & assure you that I'm still alive.. albeit pretty miserable from this cold.
Are you still coming in a few weeks? will the GF be joining you?


Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 16:44:22


Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2013 17:13:25
Good day, folks. Internet's back to normal in the house so business as usual. Still sleepy today.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 18:01:43
Quote by Raine:



I haz a happy.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 18:08:16
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Here are two links to articles that I heard about yesterday while listening to Bob Kincaid on the Head On Radio Network. They concern a private organization that works to discredit activist movements, using the old strategy of divide and conquer.

From MintPressnews.com:

Divide And Conquer: Unpacking Stratfor’s Rise To Power and

How To Win The Media War Against Grassroots Activists: Stratfor’s Strategies


Would that the GOP and their corporate backers could just come out and admit that they just wish to reinstate feudalism. I would still oppose an agenda that favors the upper 1 percent over everyone else, but the honesty would be refreshing.


Will, Do you remember when I wrote this? We have that problem on the our side of the aisle as well.

I have understood what Stratfor has been doing for a while





Yes, I remember. We are still talking about many of the same issues.

While the discussion of privacy rights is important, I wonder if it will go anywhere. This current Congress seems incapable of action on most issues.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 18:24:54
Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 18:59:08



For that much money, the burger should be so delicious that the angels will come down for one.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 19:24:30
Quote by Will in Chicago:



For that much money, the burger should be so delicious that the angels will come down for one.



That's the rub, they only have meat enough for one.

Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 20:27:14
This is a good thing.

Sixty troops have been fired as sexual assault counselors, recruiters or drill instructors after the military investigators found they had committed violations ranging from alcohol-related offenses to child abuse and sexual assault, USA TODAY has learned.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered that the records of recruiters and sexual assault counselors be examined on May 17. That action came in light of the Pentagon's report in May that estimated 26,000 troops had been sexually assaulted in 2012, a 35% increase since 2010, with offenses ranging from groping to rape. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has called sexual assault in the military a crisis.

The records of at least 35,000 troops have been screened or are under review, according to the services.


Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 20:35:39
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



For that much money, the burger should be so delicious that the angels will come down for one.



That's the rub, they only have meat enough for one.
I know it's science, and I;'m not supposed to be scared of science, but meat from a petri dish for the sake of eating just seems, well -- oogy.


Comment by Raine on 08/02/2013 21:24:38
Hope everyone has a nice weekend!

Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2013 21:35:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



For that much money, the burger should be so delicious that the angels will come down for one.



That's the rub, they only have meat enough for one.
I know it's science, and I;'m not supposed to be scared of science, but meat from a petri dish for the sake of eating just seems, well -- oogy.

Maybe Samuel Jackson can give it the taste test.

Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2013 21:36:28
Refresh comments hasn't been working again today.

Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2013 21:44:02
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



For that much money, the burger should be so delicious that the angels will come down for one.



That's the rub, they only have meat enough for one.
I know it's science, and I;'m not supposed to be scared of science, but meat from a petri dish for the sake of eating just seems, well -- oogy.



I agree.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/02/2013 22:10:44
Quote by Raine:
This is a good thing.

Sixty troops have been fired as sexual assault counselors, recruiters or drill instructors after the military investigators found they had committed violations ranging from alcohol-related offenses to child abuse and sexual assault, USA TODAY has learned.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered that the records of recruiters and sexual assault counselors be examined on May 17. That action came in light of the Pentagon's report in May that estimated 26,000 troops had been sexually assaulted in 2012, a 35% increase since 2010, with offenses ranging from groping to rape. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has called sexual assault in the military a crisis.

The records of at least 35,000 troops have been screened or are under review, according to the services.



This is indeed good news.