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Don't Quote Me
Author: BobR    Date: 2013-11-07 11:56:53

Most people know what plagarism is. Way back in high school, the lesson was pretty clear: do your research, but use your own words. The rationale was that you needed to show you understood the sources you were using. The lesson was that you shouldn't take credit for someone else's work.

It would be easy to forgive a high school drop out for not understanding the concept, but a high school graduate should understand. A college graduate definitely should understand. When you quote someone else's words, you make it clear that you're quoting, and you give attribution.

This is what makes it so hard to believe that Rand Paul doesn't get it. The issue of theft of "intellectual property" is something that strikes near and dear to me. As author of hundreds of articles on this site, as author of numerous songs, as author of hundreds of thousands of lines of software code (including the code to this website), I know I would be extremely irritated if someone used my work without asking, especially if they were making money off of it.

Rand Paul, on the other hand, figures the best defense is a strong offense:
Sen. Rand Paul shifted his tone from apology to condemnation Wednesday as he continued to face fallout from alleged plagiarism in numerous speeches and articles.

Last week, the Kentucky Republican chalked up accusations that he had improperly lifted passages from Wikipedia to a misunderstanding about attribution practices and the malicious intent of “haters.” But as more suspiciously similar passages emerged, including one in a September Washington Times column that prompted the paper to suspend Paul’s weekly contributions, Paul has been forced to go on the offensive.

“What makes me mad about the whole thing is that I believe there is a difference between errors of omission and errors of intention. We aren’t perfect and we have made errors of omission, but we never intended to mislead anybody,” Paul told the Review’s Robert Costa, saying the whole situation has been blown out of proportion.

(see what I did there Senator Paul? I provided a link as attribution and made it clear I was quoting. How hard is that?)

Just how bad is it? Bad enough that he felt the need to challenge Rachel Maddow to a duel. Buzzfeed has been all over this, so I did a quick search there for Rand Paul's name and got these hits:



What's amusing about all this is that his father (Rep Ron Paul) had the opposite problem. In his case, he claimed that the words published under his name were not actually his. Both the father and the son have controversies for initially claiming credit for writings that they may not - or did not - actually write. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree apparently.

But don't quote me on that.
 

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Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/07/2013 12:52:53
Plus doesn't RAND PAUL have a penchant for creating "medical" associations when the proper ones don't suit his fancy?

Morning

Mrs. Rabbit is much closer to home now, not even a 10 minute drive.

Cleo is starting to take it bit hard, I'm afraid. She just looked at me last night while I was sitting at the computer and started continuously whining. She never does that. I'm sure I can arrange a meeting between Cleo and Mommy this weekend, might do the two of them some good.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 13:15:37
Rand Paul is taking credit for these too:


Cartoon Brew spotted this video made by animators Doug Bayne, Ben Baker and Trudy Cooper and it's a good one. The short animations were featured in Austrlian sketch comedy show The Elegant Gentleman's Guide to Knife Fighting. You can watch them all below, make sure you stay to the end for the epic finish.


Good morning!

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 13:20:00
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Plus doesn't RAND PAUL have a penchant for creating "medical" associations when the proper ones don't suit his fancy?

Morning

Mrs. Rabbit is much closer to home now, not even a 10 minute drive.

Cleo is starting to take it bit hard, I'm afraid. She just looked at me last night while I was sitting at the computer and started continuously whining. She never does that. I'm sure I can arrange a meeting between Cleo and Mommy this weekend, might do the two of them some good.
Moring, Rabbit. Glad to see she's so much closer to home. That got to make it a little easier for you. As for Cleo, that would be a great idea. Things like that can really help recovery.


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/07/2013 14:04:12
Morning. I'll be pretty sparse today. My gut is trying to act out. Fasting, drinking lots of water is on the agenda for today.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 14:06:11
Morning

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 14:06:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. I'll be pretty sparse today. My gut is trying to act out. Fasting, drinking lots of water is on the agenda for today.
Ugh for you.


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/07/2013 14:15:28
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Morning. I'll be pretty sparse today. My gut is trying to act out. Fasting, drinking lots of water is on the agenda for today.
Ugh for you.



I'll live. It is just...inconvient.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/07/2013 14:43:45
Mornin' all..

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 14:55:38
Rand Paul -- you are a sociopath.


“It’s also what people hate about politics, and it’s why, frankly, members of my family are not too interested in politics, period, or wanting me to do more of this,” he said. “To tell you the truth, people can think what they want, I can go back to being a doctor anytime, if they’re tired of me. I’ll go back to being a doctor, and I’ll be perfectly content.”


Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 15:09:17
I think Kimmel outdid himself this year...


Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 15:39:49
Quote by Raine:
I think Kimmel outdid himself this year...


I think I may be the only person who doesn't like these - actually kind of horrified at the reactions of these kids. Except the one little girl who was trying so hard not to cry and so sweet then went to eat her cereal.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 15:46:23
Quote by wickedpam:
I think I may be the only person who doesn't like these - actually kind of horrified at the reactions of these kids. Except the one little girl who was trying so hard not to cry and so sweet then went to eat her cereal.
You're not alone Mala.

There were a lot of very nice kids in this. I have to wonder where so many of the kids got that attitude. Especially the little girl at the end.

I have a dark sense of humor, you know that.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 15:51:14
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I think I may be the only person who doesn't like these - actually kind of horrified at the reactions of these kids. Except the one little girl who was trying so hard not to cry and so sweet then went to eat her cereal.
You're not alone Mala.

There were a lot of very nice kids in this. I have to wonder where so many of the kids got that attitude. Especially the little girl at the end.

I have a dark sense of humor, you know that.


oh trust me dark humor I get - that little girl at the end is a tame version of my neighbors


Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 16:24:16
Does anyone know who appoints the head of the Virginia State Corporation Commission, which oversees the Bureau of Insurance?


Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 16:29:10
Quote by Raine:
Does anyone know who appoints the head of the Virginia State Corporation Commission, which oversees the Bureau of Insurance?


my guess its a combination of appointments and state employees for the clerks office


Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 17:02:22
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Does anyone know who appoints the head of the Virginia State Corporation Commission, which oversees the Bureau of Insurance?


my guess its a combination of appointments and state employees for the clerks office
I found half the answer to my question.
The SCC's three commissioners, Mark C. Christie, Judith Williams Jagdmann, and James C. Dimitri* are elected by the General Assembly for six-year terms. The terms are staggered in increments of two years. Working full-time, the commissioners direct the work of the SCC with the expertise of a staff of nearly 600.


Do they appoint people to the head of say the bureau of insurance? (I;m looking at this from a D/R balance)




Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 17:05:30
Mark C. Christie Appears to have served as chief cousel to George Allen from '96-98.

I think that places him in the possible ® territory.

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 17:09:50
Judith Jagdmann was an R attorney General before Transvag Bob....

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 17:12:29
Dimitri was appointed to the Virginia State Corporation Commission by then-Gov. Timothy M. Kaine in August 2008 and confirmed by the legislature in 2009.


link

Comment by livingonli on 11/07/2013 17:43:24
Good day, folks. Looks like it's going to be one of those days as the laptop is going mighty slow.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 18:40:30
gawd Papantonio is just a ray of sunshine

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 19:12:27
Quote by wickedpam:
gawd Papantonio is just a ray of sunshine
Is it me or he getting more like the both sides do it type of ppl?


Comment by Scoopster on 11/07/2013 19:35:38
Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 19:43:22
Scoop, I'd like your input on this.



Comment by Scoopster on 11/07/2013 19:50:10
Quote by Raine:
Scoop, I'd like your input on this.

Psh.. pathetic teadiots' attempting to be l33t h1x0rz.

Crashing the ACA website is NOT civil disobedience. It's destruction of property, and it's literally trying to bankrupt the rest of us who actually USE THE DAMN THING. You wanna practice civil disobedience, go write on your 2013 tax return about it.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 19:54:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
gawd Papantonio is just a ray of sunshine
Is it me or he getting more like the both sides do it type of ppl?



yeah, or your an Obamabot if your not upset by blah, blah, blah

really I can't be outraged 24/7 its too tiring

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 19:59:00
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Scoop, I'd like your input on this.

Psh.. pathetic teadiots' attempting to be l33t h1x0rz.

Crashing the ACA website is NOT civil disobedience. It's destruction of property, and it's literally trying to bankrupt the rest of us who actually USE THE DAMN THING. You wanna practice civil disobedience, go write on your 2013 tax return about it.
Thanks.

I'm pretty pissed that this is out there. To what end would they think they could gain any sympathy? (other than being teadionarchists?)

Hacktivists for hire: is that too far out there?

Comment by Raine on 11/07/2013 20:07:23
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
gawd Papantonio is just a ray of sunshine
Is it me or he getting more like the both sides do it type of ppl?



yeah, or your an Obamabot if your not upset by blah, blah, blah

really I can't be outraged 24/7 its too tiring
I understand. you know, I wish more progressives would realize that they might get more audience without the outrage vs. being an obamabot.

Maybe I was never cut out to be a progressive -- maybe I misunderstood. I thought I could support my party and still be progressive.

This is a problem we have.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/07/2013 20:12:22
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
gawd Papantonio is just a ray of sunshine
Is it me or he getting more like the both sides do it type of ppl?



yeah, or your an Obamabot if your not upset by blah, blah, blah

really I can't be outraged 24/7 its too tiring
I understand. you know, I wish more progressives would realize that they might get more audience without the outrage vs. being an obamabot.

Maybe I was never cut out to be a progressive -- maybe I misunderstood. I thought I could support my party and still be progressive.

This is a problem we have.



truth.

Comment by TriSec on 11/07/2013 21:06:56
I want a Turnip Twaddler.



Comment by BobR on 11/07/2013 21:34:40
Quote by TriSec:
I want a Turnip Twaddler.


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