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Author: Raine    Date: 07/03/2014 13:20:36

The Supreme Court on Tuesday confirmed that its decision a day earlier extending religious rights to closely held corporations applies broadly to the contraceptive coverage requirement in the new health care law, not just the handful of methods the justices considered in their ruling.

The justices did not comment in leaving in place lower court rulings in favor of businesses that object to covering all 20 methods of government-approved contraception.
Basically, the contraception mandate has been gutted from the ACA. It was included as a free service for preventative health care in the ACA. From HHS:
If you have a new health insurance plan or insurance policy beginning on or after September 23, 2010, the following preventive services must be covered without your having to pay a copayment or co-insurance or meet your deductible. This applies only when these services are delivered by a network provider.
There is a long list of services that are covered. Until Tuesday, contraception was a part of that mandate. It took one day for the floodgates to open as SCOTUS sent back to lower courts lawsuits that were rendered alive again due to this ruling.
“Our decision in these cases is concerned solely with the contraceptive mandate,” claimed Justice Samuel Alito, writing for the majority. “Our decision should not be understood to hold that an insurance-coverage mandate must necessarily fall if it conflicts with an employers’ religious beliefs.” (snip) In her dissent, Ginsburg deemed it “a decision of startling breadth.”

In fact, it only took a day for the Court’s “narrow” decision to start to crack open. On Tuesday, the Court indicated that its ruling applies to for-profit employers who object to all twenty forms of birth control included in the Affordable Care Act’s contraceptive mandate, not just the four methods at issue in the two cases decided on Monday.

In light of its ruling on Hobby Lobby and a related suit, the Supreme Court ordered three appeals courts to reconsider cases in which they had rejected challenges from corporations that object to providing insurance that covers any contraceptive services at all. The plaintiffs in all three cases are Catholics who own businesses in the Midwest, including Michigan-based organic food company Eden Foods. Meanwhile, the High Court declined to review petitions from the government seeking to overturn lower court rulings that upheld religiously based challenges to all preventative services under the mandate. (snip)

According to Alito, courts have no authority to “tell the plaintiffs that their beliefs are flawed.” Where, then, are the boundaries? How will courts decide which beliefs are “sincerely held?” Alito asserts that the majority opinion provides “no such shield” for other forms of discrimination, but we have to take his word on it. The language of the ruling may be limited to contraception, but there are no explicit constraints on its underlying logic.
As a result of this horrible ruling, faith leaders are asking for a religious exemption to discriminate against the LGBT community:
This week, in the Hobby Lobby case, the Supreme Court ruled that a religious employer could not be required to provide employees with certain types of contraception. That decision is beginning to reverberate: A group of faith leaders is urging the Obama administration to include a religious exemption in a forthcoming LGBT anti-discrimination action.

Their call, in a letter sent to the White House Tuesday, attempts to capitalize on the Supreme Court case by arguing that it shows the administration must show more deference to the prerogatives of religion.

"We are asking that an extension of protection for one group not come at the expense of faith communities whose religious identity and beliefs motivate them to serve those in need," the letter states.
In 2010, Justice Alito was aghast that the President had the nerve to call out a terrible ruling called Citizens United in his State of the Union Address. Remember this moment?



Citizens United.
Last week, Justice Samuel Alito Jr. speciously defended the Supreme Court’s disastrous ruling in the 2010 Citizens United case by arguing that the ruling, which allowed unlimited independent campaign spending by corporations and unions, was not really groundbreaking at all. In fact, he said, all it did was reaffirm that corporations have free speech rights and that, without such rights, newspapers would have lost the major press freedom rulings that allowed the publication of the Pentagon Papers and made it easier for newspapers to defend themselves against libel suits in New York Times v. Sullivan.
He has been proven to be wrong about that and he is wrong again about the Hobby Lobby case.

Not only are the rights of women once again being restricted, it has been officially sanctioned that religion can infringe upon personal freedom to choose life, liberty and happiness by the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

And no, just to preempt this stupid notion that women can just go and buy contraception for 9 bucks… it's bullshit too. But that won't stop conservatives and the attacks on women when the focus was supposed to be about religion. The Supreme Court did this and more when they essentially took away the mandate. Take a look at this very long read from a Kos Diary, specifically the final update at the end. From a Physician:
Yesterday, I widely posted and referenced the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists statement on the HL decision. In it, they warned that the decision would allow employers to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship, by limiting what discussions and options patients would be presented with. I met some resistance from people who insisted that this was a narrow ruling that would "only" prevent payment for services, and not prevent women from accessing said services. Therefore, I was very happy to see your diary where you dove into the nitty-gritty of the court documents to show that, yes indeed, HL sought to prevent payment for "counseling and education" too.

Unfortunately, that sent many chasing the rabbit down the hole of ICD-9 codes. The theory being that since there is no specific code for "contraception counseling" then insurance companies, and by extension, the employers who contract with them, wouldn't know whether a woman discussed contraception with her physician. This is so not true. Physicians are required to document in patient charts what they and the patient discussed, what treatment recommend actions were made, and the medical reasoning behind those recommend actions. This information is available to the insurance companies under the terms of service the patient agrees to when they enroll in coverage. Furthermore, for most procedures and many prescriptions, the physician must send in documentation to the insurance company about the recommended treatment plan, and the discussions that led to the agreed upon course of action. If an insurance company wanted to, they could easily do an audit of claims and find out that illicit counseling occurred. The wide implementation of electronic medical records would make this an easy task!
It's a Pandora's Box, all sitting on the mantle of an asinine assumption that religious freedom is being trampled upon.

Tell me again about the Separation of Church and State? Tell me why I as a woman should not be pissed off? Tell me again that this isn't a really big deal? WE are your mothers and sisters and daughters. This is what they are doing to us. This is what they are doing to you all in the name of religion.

I don't even know what to say anymore. What will it take to get people to wake up and see what is being done in our name?

and
Raine
 

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Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 13:23:31
Morning . :sigh:

Comment by TriSec on 07/03/2014 13:31:11
So, I stopped flying the stars & stripes again. This isn't the United States. Irony is lost on our GOP friends, but I don't own a flag of Iran anyway.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/03/2014 13:32:46
Morning

Comment by BobR on 07/03/2014 13:38:25
I updated my blog yesterday, but as more and more of this comes out, I feel like I should just gut half of it.

Where are the men in this country? It takes a man and a woman to make a baby, so this affects men as well. This affects couples trying to plan their parenthood.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/03/2014 13:48:48
and Billy once again proves who stupid he is

Comment by clintster on 07/03/2014 13:51:09
Billy

Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 13:52:10
Mornin' all..
Quote by BobR:
I updated my blog yesterday, but as more and more of this comes out, I feel like I should just gut half of it.

Where are the men in this country? It takes a man and a woman to make a baby, so this affects men as well. This affects couples trying to plan their parenthood.

I mentioned that to Raine on Monday. This can affect all kinds of treatment coverage - fertility testing & treatment, stem cell therapy, vaccines, insulin for diabetics (some prescrip formulas still use cow insulin, which would be against Hindu practice)..

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 13:52:14
Why is is entertaining this KNOWN FUKING TROLL!

Comment by TriSec on 07/03/2014 13:53:40
I say again, if they're opposing birth control on dogma, they have to oppose ART as well; that's just as bad, according to church policy.

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 13:55:16
Quote by TriSec:
I say again, if they're opposing birth control on dogma, they have to oppose ART as well; that's just as bad, according to church policy.
What is this ART stand for?


Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 13:55:56
Comment by clintster on 07/03/2014 14:01:27
One of my conservative friends reported something from Rand Paul's Facebook yesterday, which purported to show how some liberals protesting a Hobby Lobby store were shamed when they found out how much the employees made.

My problem with is that the fact that they are making $11/hr (which is STILL not a lot of money) doesn't make up for the fact that their health care won't pay for Plan B or IUDs.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 14:02:34
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
I say again, if they're opposing birth control on dogma, they have to oppose ART as well; that's just as bad, according to church policy.
What is this ART stand for?



Artificial Reproductive Therapy?

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 14:03:30
Quote by clintster:
One of my conservative friends reported something from Rand Paul's Facebook yesterday, which purported to show how some liberals protesting a Hobby Lobby store were shamed when they found out how much the employees made.

My problem with is that the fact that they are making $11/hr (which is STILL not a lot of money) doesn't make up for the fact that their health care won't pay for Plan B or IUDs.
That's true, Clint. 11 dollars is still below a living wage.

That would mean a HL employee would only have to work a HALF a month as opposed to a minimum wage employee to get an IUD.


Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 14:03:49
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
I say again, if they're opposing birth control on dogma, they have to oppose ART as well; that's just as bad, according to church policy.
What is this ART stand for?



Artificial Reproductive Therapy?
That is what I am thinking, just not sure.


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 14:15:01
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
Quote by BobR:
I updated my blog yesterday, but as more and more of this comes out, I feel like I should just gut half of it.

Where are the men in this country? It takes a man and a woman to make a baby, so this affects men as well. This affects couples trying to plan their parenthood.

I mentioned that to Raine on Monday. This can affect all kinds of treatment coverage - fertility testing & treatment, stem cell therapy, vaccines, insulin for diabetics (some prescrip formulas still use cow insulin, which would be against Hindu practice)..



Acutally it is pig isulin. The vast majority of insulin that is used in the US made with that uber-scary GMO tech! Which produces human insulin.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 14:15:05
Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 14:15:39
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 14:16:49
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
I say again, if they're opposing birth control on dogma, they have to oppose ART as well; that's just as bad, according to church policy.
What is this ART stand for?



Artificial Reproductive Therapy?
That is what I am thinking, just not sure.



;mutters: Trisec and his love of fancy-schmancy medical industrial complex jargon. He should be using terms us lay people can understand.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 14:18:03
Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 14:20:08
Here's one for the vidya game geeks.. Fox News rips off bumper graphic from Bioshock Infinite

Comment by wickedpam on 07/03/2014 14:23:08
Quote by Scoopster:
Here's one for the vidya game geeks.. Fox News rips off bumper graphic from Bioshock Infinite



this reminds me - is Bioshock a shooter game? it looks interesting but I don't like to shoot stuff.

Comment by TriSec on 07/03/2014 14:25:20
Advanced Reproductive Therapy.

Is there going to be a National Push to increase adoption rates now? But not in this Commonwealth...icky gays are allowed, so Catholic Charities took their babies and went home.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 14:35:31
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
Here's one for the vidya game geeks.. Fox News rips off bumper graphic from Bioshock Infinite


this reminds me - is Bioshock a shooter game? it looks interesting but I don't like to shoot stuff.

It is yes - first-person shooter with a really good storyline, similar to the other two Bioshock games. This one (Infinite) has more of a nationalistic theme compared to the others, which were more along the lines of some Ayn Rand-based community gone EXTREMELY wrong.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/03/2014 14:41:36
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
Here's one for the vidya game geeks.. Fox News rips off bumper graphic from Bioshock Infinite


this reminds me - is Bioshock a shooter game? it looks interesting but I don't like to shoot stuff.

It is yes - first-person shooter with a really good storyline, similar to the other two Bioshock games. This one (Infinite) has more of a nationalistic theme compared to the others, which were more along the lines of some Ayn Rand-based community gone EXTREMELY wrong.


*sigh* scratch that one off the list them

"Ayn Rand-based community gone EXTREMELY wrong." Hmm, why do I think it went more extremely RIGHT

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/03/2014 14:43:17
Good morning, bloggers!!

Raine, I share your frustration with the Supreme Court and our fellow citizens. We are losing our rights in a death of a thousand cuts.

Let me share an article from Robert Reich, that might help us better understand our conservative brethren.

Freedom, Power, and the Conservative Mind

by Robert Reich

Freedom is the one value conservatives place above all others, yet time and again their ideal of freedom ignores the growing imbalance of power in our society that’s eroding the freedoms of most people.

This isn’t new. In the early 1930s, the Court trumped New Deal legislation with “freedom of contract” – the presumed right of people to make whatever deals they want unencumbered by federal regulations. Eventually (perhaps influenced by FDR’s threat to expand the Court and pack it with his own appointees) the Court relented.

But the conservative mind has never incorporated economic power into its understanding of freedom. Conservatives still champion “free enterprise” and equate the so-called “free market” with liberty. To them, government “intrusions” on the market threaten freedom.

Yet the “free market” doesn’t exist in nature. There, only the fittest and strongest survive. The “free market” is the product of laws and rules continuously emanating from legislatures, executive departments, and courts. Government doesn’t “intrude” on the free market. It defines and organizes (and often reorganizes) it.


I think that we have fundamental differences between ourselves and conservatives when we use words such as freedom.

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 14:49:43
I love John Fugelsang, but I think he is contradicting himself when he says the bad guys are the people who don;t vote while engaging the very people, the trolls that actually suppress the vote. He's excusing the haters in order for him to engage them.

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 14:55:32
Clearly he's the worst PResident since WW2.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Brn3_-eCMAAzo-A.png
(look at the charts at that link. )

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/03/2014 15:09:13
Quote by Raine:
I love John Fugelsang, but I think he is contradicting himself when he says the bad guys are the people who don;t vote while engaging the very people, the trolls that actually suppress the vote. He's excusing the haters in order for him to engage them.



John Fugelsang needs to take some notes from Randi Rhodes. Argue with them, demand that they have their facts, and address those issues. I have very little tolerance for willful ignorance.

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 15:28:51
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
I love John Fugelsang, but I think he is contradicting himself when he says the bad guys are the people who don;t vote while engaging the very people, the trolls that actually suppress the vote. He's excusing the haters in order for him to engage them.



John Fugelsang needs to take some notes from Randi Rhodes. Argue with them, demand that they have their facts, and address those issues. I have very little tolerance for willful ignorance.
He does do that, I take issue with him saying the REAL problem is those that do not vote because in the end you can't change the haters--- and yet he engages them.


Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/03/2014 15:36:15
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
I love John Fugelsang, but I think he is contradicting himself when he says the bad guys are the people who don;t vote while engaging the very people, the trolls that actually suppress the vote. He's excusing the haters in order for him to engage them.



John Fugelsang needs to take some notes from Randi Rhodes. Argue with them, demand that they have their facts, and address those issues. I have very little tolerance for willful ignorance.
He does do that, I take issue with him saying the REAL problem is those that do not vote because in the end you can't change the haters--- and yet he engages them.



I have to agree. Apathy is a problem, but trying to change a hateful heart is quite difficult. Change has to come from within, and many people will not change their minds as doing so threatens their sense of identity.

Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 16:17:01
Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 17:10:54
Did everyone kick out early for the holiday?


Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 17:15:44
Quote by Raine:
Did everyone kick out early for the holiday?

Not quite yet.. actually I'm swamped I may end up staying a full day.

Comment by TriSec on 07/03/2014 17:17:05
So, with a wall of suck headed this way, looks like we'll be huddled indoors all July 4. No grill, so we get fish chowder and strawberry pie. That's Patriotic, yes?



Comment by livingonli on 07/03/2014 17:17:16
I worked late last night so I slept late today.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 17:27:01
The HL protest is getting creative..

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10525796_10152233635954639_1761765036313545654_n.jpg


Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/03/2014 17:29:36



How many more states are needed to pass the ERA? Can we make it happen soon, if only to see if Scalia, Alito, and a few others be utterly stunned.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/03/2014 17:36:45
Quote by Raine:
Did everyone kick out early for the holiday?



Home doing laundry that's all, okay and I took a short nap

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/03/2014 17:41:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Did everyone kick out early for the holiday?



Home doing laundry that's all, okay and I took a short nap

I am planning on a nice long walk. Working on losing weight and firming up. (I should do some sit ups later.)



Comment by livingonli on 07/03/2014 18:07:41
Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 18:09:23
Quote by TriSec:
So, with a wall of suck headed this way, looks like we'll be huddled indoors all July 4. No grill, so we get fish chowder and strawberry pie. That's Patriotic, yes?

That sucks, We are supposed to have good weather for the fireworks tomorrow.

Going to our normal spot next to the Jefferson memorial. Wine, fruit cheese and olives are ready to go!


Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 18:09:55
Comment by BobR on 07/03/2014 18:11:37
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
So, with a wall of suck headed this way, looks like we'll be huddled indoors all July 4. No grill, so we get fish chowder and strawberry pie. That's Patriotic, yes?

That sucks, We are supposed to have good weather for the fireworks tomorrow.

Going to our normal spot next to the Jefferson memorial. Wine, fruit cheese and olives are ready to go!

We are SO liberal elite

Comment by BobR on 07/03/2014 18:12:47

What's the difference between a butt-weasel and an ass-ferret?

Comment by Scoopster on 07/03/2014 18:13:08
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
So, with a wall of suck headed this way, looks like we'll be huddled indoors all July 4. No grill, so we get fish chowder and strawberry pie. That's Patriotic, yes?

That sucks, We are supposed to have good weather for the fireworks tomorrow.

Going to our normal spot next to the Jefferson memorial. Wine, fruit cheese and olives are ready to go!

We've gotten slammed in the office today making last-minute changes to our 4th of July events calendar. This damn hurricane is throwing EVERYTHING off!

...except Bristol, RI. That parade is still on for its scheduled date & time.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 18:20:57
Quote by BobR:

What's the difference between a butt-weasel and an ass-ferret?



Different speicies. You can't cross-breed ferrets and weasels.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/03/2014 18:23:18
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
So, with a wall of suck headed this way, looks like we'll be huddled indoors all July 4. No grill, so we get fish chowder and strawberry pie. That's Patriotic, yes?

That sucks, We are supposed to have good weather for the fireworks tomorrow.

Going to our normal spot next to the Jefferson memorial. Wine, fruit cheese and olives are ready to go!

We've gotten slammed in the office today making last-minute changes to our 4th of July events calendar. This damn hurricane is throwing EVERYTHING off!

...except Bristol, RI. That parade is still on for its scheduled date & time.



I'm just gonna watch Adam West as Batman until my eyes bleed. Holy Bat-a-thon, Batman!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/03/2014 19:25:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by BobR:

What's the difference between a butt-weasel and an ass-ferret?



Different speicies. You can't cross-breed ferrets and weasels.


I argue that they are vampires, as they are essentially immortal, can breed unnaturally, and suck. No, not the sparkly shiny vampires but more the classic Nosferatu.


http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6miplBi421rv3bkjo1_1280.jpg


Comment by Raine on 07/03/2014 20:03:09
Georgia MAn is giving Florida man a run for his money this week.
Wesley Mark Terrell, a 60-year-old man from Oconee County, Georgia, had a perfectly reasonable explanation when cops asked him about the dog that was locked inside his car on a recent 99-degree day.

Obviously, the dog had driven him to the grocery store. To buy some corn. What's better than corn on the cob on a hot summer day? And with 4th of July fast approaching, why not stock up? With all due respect, I'm not sure why we're even still talking about this, officer? Also, Mr. Terrell was allegedly very drunk.