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Presidential Debatable: 2016; Part One.
Author: Raine    Date: 09/27/2016 00:51:28

Four years ago, it was Obama and Mitt. Thier first debate together was less than spectacular -- BUT it's a much different landscape now than it was 4 years ago.

Four years ago, Mitt was praising that trees were just the right height. He spoke of the 47%. He declared he had binders full of women.

He mocked Obama with a silly meme: 'You built this'

Tonite we have the former Secretary of State, Former Senator from New York (The Empire State, by the way-- yes I have a bias -- I got to vote for her) and Former First Lady of the United States of America, Hillary Rodham Clinton who will debate Donald John Trump. businessman.

He wants to make America great again. (It's not America: It is the United States of America)

I'm gonna pull out my patriot flag. We have have been great, we have always wanted to be better.

Please jump in and make your comments known.


Welcome to all our Turnips! friends!

and

Raine

PS:
God Damnit!
 

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Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 00:55:08
I'm hoping to stay awake for this, but I got 2 hours of sleep last night. Otherwise I'm glad to be back in 4F land. I need to blog again at some point.


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 00:58:04
BTW...


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:00:50
Here we go...

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:01:06
Howdy all. Killing trolls and chatting with you all while trying not to shoot my TV. ;)

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:04:13
And here we go.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:04:35
Quote by kat0211:
Howdy all. Killing trolls and chatting with you all while trying not to shoot my TV. ;)


Welcome Kat. Settle in and pass the popcorn.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 01:06:04
Ooopsie I was in the wrong thread!

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:06:31
Quote by Scoopster:
Ooopsie I was in the wrong thread!


It's cool.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:07:43
And away we go...

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:09:22
China making your products, Donny.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:09:39
I didn't really hear Secretary Clinton say how she was going to put money in the pockets of Americans. But, then again, neither is Trump answering it.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:09:45
Did... did Trump get pancaked a more natural color?

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:10:23
quaalude tRump showed up. Let's see how long THAT lasts...

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:10:51
What the fuck is this yapping Cheeto talking about. Lie #1 Ford is not leaving. It is in the contract that if they move the plant the jobs they had stay in the country .

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:10:53
Indianapolis? That's in Gov. Pence's state, right?

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:10:54
Quote by BobR:
quaalude tRump showed up. Let's see how long THAT lasts...


I'm guessing about 40 minutes.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:10:55
tRump talking about jobs moving to Mexico? Like his ties?

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:11:52
Quote by Mondobubba:
What the fuck is this yapping Cheeto talking about. Lie #1 Ford is not leaving. It is in the contract that if they move the plant the jobs they had stay in the country .

Exactly - the union approved it

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 01:12:48
Uhh.. the corporate tax rate is 15 right now, isn't it?

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:13:27
Better job on the follow up. And Trump again with the "small loan" from his father. How many of us would call $14 million a "small loan"?

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:13:32
Very small loan. $1 million. In 1975 dollars.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:14:46
Yeah, Donnie's sniffing is gonna drive me to distraction.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 01:15:26
Did he just patronize her?

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:15:43
You know who will pay that tax? The consumer, not the producer, Donny.

You are out of your element.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:15:58
Clinton looking at tRump like "you stupid, stupid, man..."


Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:16:16
Quote by clintster:
Yeah, Donnie's sniffing is gonna drive me to distraction.


He isn't well. He's go the pneumonia, or the ague, or something.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:16:22
He is talking a lot, but not saying anything.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:16:31
Quote by Scoopster:
Did he just patronize her?

Does this happen?
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c2/8a/e6/c28ae66190ab5cf779e4c225fe1e3cd0.jpg


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:17:05
Quote by kat0211:
Quote by clintster:
Yeah, Donnie's sniffing is gonna drive me to distraction.


He isn't well. He's go the pneumonia, or the ague, or something.

I just hope he doesn't start dripping out of his nose or wherever.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:17:33
Quote by kat0211:
You know who will pay that tax? The consumer, not the producer, Donny.

You are out of your element.


http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/df/df3612486fb50970411774f991b6baec9fb7cca2e144180b885f03fba7b07217.jpg


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:18:20
He's squinting a lot.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:18:36
A solar company. One.

Donnie, you're out of your element.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:18:42
And the lienado begins.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:18:43
Quote by clintster:
Quote by kat0211:
Quote by clintster:
Yeah, Donnie's sniffing is gonna drive me to distraction.


He isn't well. He's go the pneumonia, or the ague, or something.

I just hope he doesn't start dripping out of his nose or wherever.



Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:19:27
"semi-exact"??

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 01:19:36
AHAHAHAHA NICE JOB WITH THE MIC MUTE LESTER!!!

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:19:39
She's ready for every response. He's just relying on the stump speech.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:19:44
Mother fucker, you did to say that you thought climate change is fraud cooked up by China.

Yes, that is because Solyndra was trying to develop a new tech for solar, then the price of conventional panels crashed.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:20:05
Companies left 35 years ago, when St. Ronnie was president. And you and your pals are blocking any attempts to build new industries like solar battery tech.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:20:30
Clinton: "If we're actually going to look at the facts..."

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:21:09
To China... boom!

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:21:31
You are NOT running against Bill Clinton, Cheetodick!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:21:53
NAFTA was negotiated by St Ronnie and Bush Sr. Dumb ass.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:22:02
That is just... Not Accurate

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:22:21
BOOM!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:23:10
So when is he going to say "I'm rubber you're glue!"

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:23:13
20 minutes in and I want to know when Holt is gonna settle this shit down.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:23:28
He is starting to lose his shit.


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:23:30
She OWNS HIM

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:24:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
BOOM!

Double BOOM!



Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:24:32
Quote by Raine:
20 minutes in and I want to know when Holt is gonna settle this shit down.

seriously - it's a free-for-all

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:24:50
"Bigly"???


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:24:56
What the fuck is he babbling about?

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:24:56
Quote by TomShafShafer:
That is just... Not Accurate

BigLeague!

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:25:00
Stepped out to walk the dog. I see the ludes have worn off.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:25:31
Remember that slow blink she gave during the Benghazi hearing? There it is again. She's in control.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:25:51
OMFG:

Trump: and look at me too. What a mess.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:26:10
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
BOOM!

Double BOOM!



"I know you live in your own reality, Donald."

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:26:12
Lester, get control!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:26:41
Fighting ISIS for her entire adult life? What the actual fuck.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:26:46
Oh shit, I may need to drink anyway... or seek herbal remedies.



Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:27:04
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
BOOM!

Double BOOM!



"I know you live in your own reality, Donald..."

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:27:08
trump calling for more Reaganomics? good call

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:27:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
Fighting ISIS for her entire adult life? What the actual fuck.


Wait til he accuses her of leading the Germans into Pearl Harbor.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:27:57
Quote by Mondobubba:
Fighting ISIS for her entire adult life? What the actual fuck.

that was amazing.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:28:20
Again what the fuck is he talking about?

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:28:20
Quote by BobR:
trump calling for more Reaganomics? good call


He buys the BS about tickle-down and "job creators".

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:28:36
Quote by clintster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Fighting ISIS for her entire adult life? What the actual fuck.


Wait til he accuses her of leading the Germans into Pearl Harbor.



Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:29:36
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Fighting ISIS for her entire adult life? What the actual fuck.

that was amazing.
I know! WTELF!

She did NOTHING to get under his skin.



Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:29:38
Shut up, Donny!

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:30:43
Projection, much?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:31:48
Yay, the tax returns

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:32:10
again with the "audit" lie

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:32:12
"Typical politician..."

Yeah, and it's the business of politicians to know this shit that you obviously don't. You are out of your element.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:32:42
Blatant lie, he can release his tax returns.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:33:32
Did Lester Holt just call him on his bullshit with the audit?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:33:43
Drink

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:34:26
What the fuck? Again with the fucking emails?

Fuck The GODDAMNED emails!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:34:27
Hey dumb fuck, when the emails are deleted you can't release them. It doesn't work like that.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:34:34
And 2008 and previous are not being audited.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:34:53
BOOM

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:35:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Did Lester Holt just call him on his bullshit with the audit?


He sure did.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:35:09
Quote by Mondobubba:
Again what the fuck is he talking about?

Mondo, Is i t me or is he really losing his shit?


Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 01:35:12
I'm multitasking - Larry Wilmore and Robin Thede are live-tweeting, Eric Deggans of NPR is facebooking, and I'm trying to check the fact checkers too.

My phone is going to explode.....

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:36:04
Exasperated sigh! Hillary wins!

:D

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:36:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Again what the fuck is he talking about?

Mondo, Is i t me or is he really losing his shit?


He's losing his shit.

Not paying taxes makes you smart? No, it makes you fucking greedy POS.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:36:59
Quote by shelaghc:
I'm multitasking - Larry Wilmore and Robin Thede are live-tweeting, Eric Deggans of NPR is facebooking, and I'm trying to check the fact checkers too.

My phone is going to explode.....

welcome back - it's been a while

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:37:58
Two words: Russian Oligarchs.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:39:09
I've been to the Beijing airport - it's a shithole

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:39:18
Clearly he hasn't landed in Denver, Houston or Dallas.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:39:33
What a blowhard.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 01:39:47
Hi Bobr
I didn't want to go through this craziness alone.
*g*

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:40:05
Quote by BobR:
I've been to the Beijing airport - it's a shithole


Yeah Dubai. They are trying to prove things.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:40:40
Damn, Hillary bringing up his stiffing workers.


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:41:03
Go Hillary!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 01:41:21
So, Donnie, did you just admit that you like breaking contracts?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:42:03
Words, words

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:42:32
Clinton is kicking his ass, She is taking his tiny balls and playing badminton with them.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:42:50
He takes advantage of EVERYTHING

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:43:37
My impressions of Donnie's performance


Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:43:42
NOT NEXT TO THE WHITE HOUSE YOU LYING MOTHER FUCKER.


Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:43:51
"I took advantage of the laws of this nation"

You sure did, bub....you sure did.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:45:38
I am kinda thinking that lester is letting Trump has plenty of rope.

And I am pretty sick of Trump interrupting.


Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:46:19
Quote by kat0211:
"I took advantage of the laws of this nation"

You sure did, bub....you sure did.

Gah!

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:47:26
Every police group? Bullshit

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:47:39
In case no one as said it..


FUCK YOU TRUMP.


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:48:08
We need Law & Order
Special Tax Cheats Unit


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:48:29
No, stop-and-frisk didn't work!

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:48:47
Where are these roving bands of illegal Mexicans who are scaring the cops?

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:48:48
Stop & Frisk - aka: license to harrass

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:49:38
Lester, with the fact-check

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 01:49:47
oh here we go with the fucking fearmongering

AHAHAHA AND LESTER FACT CHECKED HIM!!

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:50:08
We need to take guns awayu from "those" people. Something tells me the NRA won't mind him saying that.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:50:11
NO. Holt is NOT wrong, Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 01:50:14
Quote by Raine:
In case no one as said it..


FUCK YOU TRUMP.

Even if it had been said, it needed to be repeated.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:50:57
Quote by kat0211:
Where are these roving bands of illegal Mexicans who are scaring the cops?

In trumps mind. BElieve me, KAt.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:50:57
Quote by clintster:
We need to take guns awayu from "those" people. Something tells me the NRA won't mind him saying that.

Open Carry is for Whites Only

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:51:03


Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 01:51:49
Quote by clintster:

We need to get that for our AudiCon selection

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:51:54
Donny hates hearing the truth

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:52:32
Can we start sending a 220v jolt through his podium if he let's out a groan or exasperated sigh one more time?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:53:37
Prison-industrial Complex

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 01:54:35
Quote by clintster:
We need to take guns awayu from "those" people. Something tells me the NRA won't mind him saying that.


Not when it's the guns of "those" people. They only care about the guns of white people. The profiling of the guy in Dallas and the shooting of Philando Castile proved that much.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:55:44
Quote by kat0211:
Quote by clintster:
We need to take guns awayu from "those" people. Something tells me the NRA won't mind him saying that.


Not when it's the guns of "those" people. They only care about the guns of white people. The profiling of the guy in Dallas and the shooting of Philando Castile proved that much.

Yep.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:55:54
About those Second Amendment people, Donny...

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:56:20
Superpredator? WTF is he talking about?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:57:12
You're wrong, Donny

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:57:27
Another apropos clip for Donnie:


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:58:21
What have you got to lose?

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 01:58:58
"They talk good around election time"

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 01:59:03
Quote by clintster:
Superpredator? WTF is he talking about?


I actually remember something like that but it was ages ago.


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:59:07
And she calmly blinks.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 01:59:26
BOOM

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 01:59:51
TRump almost said Stop and Fist.

mmhmm

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:00:22
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by clintster:
Superpredator? WTF is he talking about?


I actually remember something like that but it was ages ago.

This is all I could think of:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aliens/images/b/b5/Predators-black-super-predator1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110823141509


Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:00:35
So folks I have a flash poll!

1) How many points will Trump drop after this performance?

2) Will Gary Johnson make the cutoff for the second debate?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:00:38
Bullshit! I played the Solis audio on TUTN

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:00:42
Oh for fuck's sake, he is going with the Hillary started the birther movement.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:00:57
Yes, Lester!

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:00:58
Quote by TomShafShafer:
BOOM


Tom, I don't envy your job for tomorrow night.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:01:28
http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/very-brief-history-super-predators

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:01:38
Mega Eyeroll

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:02:21
Donnie, about your claim that you made his produce his birth certificate:



Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:03:09
Now TRump is using all the words and all the words that are not answering anything.



Wow!! Trump makes me want to be a person of colour!

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:03:09


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:03:10
All Hillary had to say: "Just listen to what he just said."

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:03:13
Wait? He's got great relations with a community where he's only polling at 5%??????????

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:03:19
Oh fuck, he is trying to take the credit for Obama releasing his birth certificate? BY CROM'S PUBIC HAIR WHAT IS THIS MAN TALKING ABOUT?

Oh she is implying the Trump's a racist.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:03:23
Quote by Raine:
TRump almost said Stop and Fist.

mmhmm



Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:03:25
Yes!

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:04:02
And now HRC is hitting it out of the park --- with facts.

Suck on a fackt t-Rump.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:04:05
Quote by kat0211:
Wait? He's got great relations with a community where he's only polling at 5%??????????



In his mind, that practically makes him Malcolm X.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:05:49
Quote by Raine:
Now TRump is using all the words and all the words that are not answering anything.



Wow!! Trump makes me want to be a person of colour!


But he has the best words!


Comment by Adamkun on 09/27/2016 02:06:08
Lester Holt needs to grow a fucking spine and some balls. He's letting Trump get away with so much crap.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:06:15
I could fertilize the Midwest with his claims.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:06:36
I know I am biased, but seriously -- Does TRump look like a tiny petulant man who is REALLY losing a debate to a woman?

Cause it looks like that to me.

HRC is rocking the fuck out of this debate.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:07:09
Um he opened they Palm Beach club to stick it to the upper crust who saw him as vulgar.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:07:29
Quote by Adamkun:
Lester Holt needs to grow a fucking spine and some balls. He's letting Trump get away with so much crap.

Or is he letting Drumpf hang himself?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:07:59
And don't forget, Russia owns RT.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:08:57
Quote by Raine:
I know I am biased, but seriously -- Does TRump look like a tiny petulant man who is REALLY losing a debate to a woman?

Cause it looks like that to me.

HRC is rocking the fuck out of this debate.


It's not just you. I'm glad to see how she is giving answers and he's talking in sound bites ripped from that same tired stump speech he's given for the last 15 months.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:09:06
Quote by Raine:
I know I am biased, but seriously -- Does TRump look like a tiny petulant man who is REALLY losing a debate to a woman?

Cause it looks like that to me.

HRC is rocking the fuck out of this debate.


Unfortunately I think the media will award this to Trump for "looking tough". I hope they actually look at the reality, but... horse race.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:09:11
Adam, I think Lester is letting this play to show Trump at his worst.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:10:02
Retired RWers like Flynn

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:10:48
Weight-shaming, Fat Donald?

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:11:16
Quote by TomShafShafer:
And don't forget, Russia owns RT.

NEVER.
he's now deflecting and apologizing.

BTW:

BINGO


Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:11:18
Does Donnie know that we can follow IPs and figure out where the attacks are coming from? What a fucking idiot.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:11:24
Dumb fuck, just because the union that represents border patrol agents doesn't mean that ICE has endorsed you. There is this thing called the Hatch Act.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:11:37
The Russians all but left an empty bottle of vodak on the hack, but it's a mystery to Donnie.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:11:41
Baron to receive an IT contract?

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:11:56
And again with the "cyber".

Donnie, "cyber" means getting it on in chat, like Weiner, but without the dick pics.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:12:37
Quote by Raine:
I know I am biased, but seriously -- Does TRump look like a tiny petulant man who is REALLY losing a debate to a woman?

Cause it looks like that to me.

HRC is rocking the fuck out of this debate.



Yeah, pretty much.


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:13:29
Quote by kat0211:
And again with the "cyber".

Donnie, "cyber" means getting it on in chat, like Weiner, but without the dick pics.



Thanks for saying that. He sounds so 90s.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:13:53
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by Adamkun:
Lester Holt needs to grow a fucking spine and some balls. He's letting Trump get away with so much crap.

Or is he letting Drumpf hang himself?

That is what I am seeing, TBh.

HE's makig himself look like a fool.


This is amazing. and far beter than I thought it would be.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:14:07
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
I know I am biased, but seriously -- Does TRump look like a tiny petulant man who is REALLY losing a debate to a woman?

Cause it looks like that to me.

HRC is rocking the fuck out of this debate.



Yeah, pretty much.



Trump, even to my family, is coming across as a pompous ass. He just insulted people who are overweight by dismissing reports of Russian hacking. Why do I think that he will face some hacking soon.


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:14:35
She's been out of office for four years, buddy.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:14:43
ISIS was formed in 2006.


Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:14:43
Can you say War Crimes?

Comment by Adamkun on 09/27/2016 02:15:08
Oh Jesus Christ. We didn't leave Iraq. WE GOT KICKED OUT.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:15:10
Please for the love Christ Hillary, explain the the dumb fuck what the hell SOFA is.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:15:19
Thank You!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:15:33
How do you pump all the oil out of a country?

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:15:48
Quote by Mondobubba:
Please for the love Christ Hillary, explain the the dumb fuck what the hell SOFA is.

Your wish is her command.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:15:56
Quote by Mondobubba:
Please for the love Christ Hillary, explain the the dumb fuck what the hell SOFA is.



She is, but Trump does not care about facts or truth.


Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:17:11
Trump has no ansaaOH! again.. Trump wants to take the oil.

WAR CRIME.

Again: Clinton is not plussed by hs interupptions, She is killing this,


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:17:31
You know, with all the pancake on, Trumps eyes look really beady.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:17:43
Remember friends, Trump wants NATO to be a pay as you go plan. If you are not paid up, oh well. Nice country you used to have.

Why do I think that Don Corleone would call this guy a racketeer?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:18:09
Why do I think that Trump is so dumb that he would confuse Don Corleone with Don Cornelius?

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:18:18
Clinton has not ONCE, interrupted Trump.

Trump has not afforded her the same respect.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:18:29
I want to see Donnie's intel saying that Iran was "about to fall". I call BULLSHIT.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:18:30
<== literally

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:18:37
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Remember friends, Trump wants NATO to be a pay as you go plan. If you are not paid up, oh well. Nice country you used to have.

Why do I think that Don Corleone would call this guy a racketeer?

The ghost of John Gotti is taking notes.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:19:27
Believe me. DRINK!

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:19:52
He's giving me such a headache.

Someone make him stop!

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:20:12
Quote by BobR:
<== literally

HE's right and it is delicious!

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:20:21
Hillary is doing a great look into the csmera, like Jim from The Office.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:20:25
Don't make them pull out the Howard Stern Show tapes from September 11, 2002.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:20:26
Quote by Raine:
Clinton has not ONCE, interrupted Trump.

Trump has not afforded her the same respect.



Clinton is wisely letting Trump show himself to be a petulant ass.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 02:21:04
Why isn't FoxNews producing the fucking tapes, you goddamned tool???

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:21:07
Quote by Raine:
Clinton has not ONCE, interrupted Trump.

Trump has not afforded her the same respect.


It's okay to talk over a woman, Raine. Now, freshen my coffee. :ducks:

I kid because I love.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:21:25
Sean Hannity,Trump sycophant.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:21:34
Yeah, noted journalist Sean Hannity.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:22:00
Who cares if he talks to Sean Hannity? Sean Hannity is dumb as stump.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:22:14
HE JUST DONE HIJACKED THE DEBATE! CMON LESTER GET CONTROL!

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:22:14
That's Rich!

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:22:14
Quote by Raine:
Clinton has not ONCE, interrupted Trump.

Trump has not afforded her the same respect.


Drumpf supporters will claim that makes Clinton weak.


Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:22:33
That's some serious projection there, Donnie...

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:22:38
Watch Trump crap his pants about his support about the Iraq war suppor.

This is just pure unadulerated lie.

Holy hell. I am loving the look on HRC's Face.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:23:34
TEMPRAMENT!

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:23:36
Hillary invoked 9/11 first

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:23:59
HIllary with the tension breaker.

Comment by Adamkun on 09/27/2016 02:24:09
"Nobody calls Sean Hannity!"

That's because Hannity his a pompous Irish horse's ass, Donny.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:24:20
Am I the only one who wants to punch him?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:24:35
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by Raine:
Clinton has not ONCE, interrupted Trump.

Trump has not afforded her the same respect.


Drumpf supporters will claim that makes Clinton weak.


Drumpf supporters believe that acting like a bully is a show of strength.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:24:37
Blow them out of water

Comment by Adamkun on 09/27/2016 02:24:46
Hillary needs to point out North Korea got the nuke under the Bush administration because he scrapped Clinton's agreement.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:25:04
Quote by Scoopster:
HIllary with the tension breaker.

I did LOL! She's doing great!

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:26:11
Quote by TomShafShafer:
Blow them out of water


Does Trump have wargasms?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:26:18
Tweeting with tiny hands

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:26:36
Remember folks, Donald trump has a tremendous temprament. The best temprament.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:26:37
I'm really glad she's going into detail on nuclear weapons.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:26:55
SNAP!

A Man who can be provocked by a tweet should not be president*



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:27:06
Donnie, the US MILITARY IS HELLA WORRIED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AS A STRATEGIC ISSUE.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:28:13
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, the US MILITARY IS HELLA WORRIED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AS A STRATEGIC ISSUE.


The naval base in Roanoke, VA (Raine, BobR, correct me if I am wrong) already is facing flooding.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:28:33
https://twitter.com/TrumpSniff

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:28:36
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14446197_10153976958499537_6729656187094493421_n.jpg?oh=2371401150003fd5fef3a120f1aac7f6&oe=58ADC3EA


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:28:52
Donnie still has no clue about our nuclear capability.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:29:13
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, the US MILITARY IS HELLA WORRIED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AS A STRATEGIC ISSUE.


The naval base in Roanoke, VA (Raine, BobR, correct me if I am wrong) already is facing flooding.

Norfolk?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:29:20
Quote by BobR:
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14446197_10153976958499537_6729656187094493421_n.jpg?oh=2371401150003fd5fef3a120f1aac7f6&oe=58ADC3EA


BobR, that is insulting. Trump is not that cheap. It would be cocaine!

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:29:37
ONCE THE NUCLEAR ALTERNATIVE HAPPENS?!?!

China should go into North Korea?

DEAR lord.

HE is now even more off the rails than ever..

Also-- his name is KERRY. not Kery,


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:29:42
What the fuck does Yemen have to do with nuclear weapons.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:29:49
Ah, making up the numbers as he goes along. Good going, Trumpy.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:29:52
Back to the ransom bullshit.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:30:02
Quote by BobR:
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14446197_10153976958499537_6729656187094493421_n.jpg?oh=2371401150003fd5fef3a120f1aac7f6&oe=58ADC3EA


😆




Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:30:08
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, the US MILITARY IS HELLA WORRIED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AS A STRATEGIC ISSUE.


The naval base in Roanoke, VA (Raine, BobR, correct me if I am wrong) already is facing flooding.

Norfolk?


Yes, I believe so. I must have thought Roanoke as history comes to mind.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:30:28
Trump is drinking more water than MArco Rubio.




Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:30:38
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, the US MILITARY IS HELLA WORRIED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AS A STRATEGIC ISSUE.


The naval base in Roanoke, VA (Raine, BobR, correct me if I am wrong) already is facing flooding.

Norfolk?

It'll be Roanoke if the denialists have their way.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:30:48
Dear World Leaders, we apologize for Trump and the GOP.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:31:16
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:31:16
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, the US MILITARY IS HELLA WORRIED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AS A STRATEGIC ISSUE.


The naval base in Roanoke, VA (Raine, BobR, correct me if I am wrong) already is facing flooding.

Norfolk?


Yes, Norfolk.

Roanoke, is in SW Virginia, Will I've been there too many times to count.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:32:27
Quote by Raine:
Trump is drinking more water than MArco Rubio.




The few rails of coke he snorted up before the debate started are drying his throat out.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:33:38
And by more and more states, he means less http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/11/analysis-isis-loses-12-territory-iraq-syria-first-half-2016/

...and yes, that's a Breitbart link.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:33:43
What the hell does business ability have to do with governance?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:33:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Trump is drinking more water than MArco Rubio.




The few rails of coke he snorted up before the debate started are drying his throat out.


Did he snort that off the butt of the future Mrs. Trump Number 4, the new model?

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:33:50
Trump is strong, like Russian bear.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:34:19
Stamina? Try the Benghazi hearing

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:34:26
He really thinks that all the president does is cut deals.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:34:51
BOOM!

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:35:25
OWNED.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:35:26
Donnie, we didn't give them our money, we gave Iran it's money back.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:35:45
Bring it, Hillary!

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:35:46
This POS:

She does't have the look and the stamina. FUCK YOU you trump. FUCK you .. Stick that shiv in HRC, he is a pig.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:36:46
Ah yes, the "it's just entertainment" excuse. Asshole.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:36:49
Um, no, Donny. SHE Didn't deserve it.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:36:52
There is the sound bit for the next ad.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:37:02
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, we didn't give them our money, we gave Iran it's money back.

I wish she had pointed that out

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:37:36
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Donnie, we didn't give them our money, we gave Iran it's money back.

I wish she had pointed that out

Wait for it...

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:38:26
Quote by Raine:
This POS:

She does't have the look and the stamina. FUCK YOU you trump. FUCK you .. Stick that shiv in HRC, he is a pig.


Raine, the late author Anne McCaffrey had an appropriate curse for Trump which I will modify slightly. May your orifices congeal and your tiny extremities rot off.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:38:47
Lester gave Don the chance to say the election is rigged. Guess he didn't bite.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:39:49
Well.. I'm spent.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:40:48
The immediate reaction on CNN appears to be favorable to Hillary.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:41:13
Very happy with Hillary's debate performance.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:41:54
PBS says Trump made it about himself.

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 02:42:01
My few friends on the Book of Faces who lean towards tRump have been strangely quiet

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:42:35
David Brooks is still a tool.

Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:43:43
But even Brooks said Trump got worse as the debate wore on


Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:44:29
I'm going out tomorrow after work to finish up some canvassing from the weekend.
It'll be interesting to hear what people thought of the debate.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/27/2016 02:45:25
Bloomberg is giving to HRC.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:45:37
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Nothing on emails. Nothing on the corrupt Clinton Foundation. And nothing on #Benghazi. #Debates2016 #debatenight
September 26, 2016 10:40pm

Well, whose fault is that, Donnie? It's not like you had an audience of millions watching you live to see if you would say something... oh right.


Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:46:00
Good god, I am gonna say it, HRC killed this debate.

Holt lost control for a good portion and in losing control he just gave t-Rump some more rope.






Comment by TomShafShafer on 09/27/2016 02:46:17
My fun starts tomorrow morning, pulling audio. G'nite all!

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:47:06
Quote by clintster:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Nothing on emails. Nothing on the corrupt Clinton Foundation. And nothing on #Benghazi. #Debates2016 #debatenight
September 26, 2016 10:40pm

Well, whose fault is that, Donnie? It's not like you had an audience of millions watching you live to see if you would say something... oh right.


Nothing on the t-Rump foundation... oops.


Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:47:42
The lesson for tonight, kids: preparation matters.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:47:56
Quote by TomShafShafer:
My fun starts tomorrow morning, pulling audio. G'nite all!

Nite Tom! We'll dissect the shit out of this tomorrow night!

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:48:44
Quote by clintster:
The lesson for tonight, kids: preparation matters.

So does Preparation H.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 02:49:35
Quote by clintster:
The lesson for tonight, kids: preparation matters.


Amen

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:50:25
Quote by Raine:
Quote by clintster:
The lesson for tonight, kids: preparation matters.

So does Preparation H.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/97/83/48/978348f21a36e401a6b777c2edbc76bb.jpg


Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 02:50:30
Quote by Raine:
Good god, I am gonna say it, HRC killed this debate.

Holt lost control for a good portion and in losing control he just gave t-Rump some more rope.







I thought I was more in control as one moderator at a Chicago suburban mayoral debate.


Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:53:12
Quote by clintster:
Donnie, about your claim that you made his produce his birth certificate:


This was pretty much EVERYTHING TRump said tonite.

It deserves a and this :




Comment by Scoopster on 09/27/2016 02:56:50
WHAT THE FUCK IS CHUCK TODD DOING?!?!?! "LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM BOTH OF THEM"?!?!?!!?!!?

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:57:00
HUGE HUGS to everyoe tonite!





I know what I saw, and I am not about to be told otherwise by the cable news pontificators.

Trump looked woefully inadequate. HE sounded like typical Trump: uninformed and unaware.

She did great.

Comment by clintster on 09/27/2016 02:58:45
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK IS CHUCK TODD DOING?!?!?! "LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM BOTH OF THEM"?!?!?!!?!!?



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Horserace_520133030.jpg

The narrative must flow.

Comment by Raine on 09/27/2016 02:58:49
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK IS CHUCK TODD DOING?!?!?! "LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM BOTH OF THEM"?!?!?!!?!!?

WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK.

Are you kidding me?

I watched on the 'Span and now Bob is watching the falcons play the saints.

HE really pulled that out of his ass?

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 03:04:09
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK IS CHUCK TODD DOING?!?!?! "LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM BOTH OF THEM"?!?!?!!?!!?

Last gasp of someone attempting to stay relevant and not succeeding.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 03:06:15
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK IS CHUCK TODD DOING?!?!?! "LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM BOTH OF THEM"?!?!?!!?!!?

WHAT THE EVER LOVING FUCK.

Are you kidding me?

I watched on the 'Span and now Bob is watching the falcons play the saints.

HE really pulled that out of his ass?


We need to give Chuck Todd the credibility he deserves. This is slightly less credibility than a caller to Coast to Coast AM claiming to have been abducted to aliens, witnessed a menage-a-trois between Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly and a sasquatch while the alien vessel's commander was breakdancing and smoking a hookah while wearing Mickey Mouse ears.

Comment by kat0211 on 09/27/2016 03:15:29
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK IS CHUCK TODD DOING?!?!?! "LACK OF SUBSTANCE FROM BOTH OF THEM"?!?!?!!?!!?


Choke Toad was too busy sucking Donnie off under the podium to pay attention to what Hillary was saying.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 03:24:17
Politifact's assessment of the facts:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/26/trump-clinton-first-debate-fact-checks/

Comment by BobR on 09/27/2016 03:27:09
Thanks to all the new folks (and old timers) for a fun night at 4F. Come hang out with us in the morning while we listen to Stephanie Miller.

Comment by shelaghc on 09/27/2016 03:52:33
Quote by BobR:
Thanks to all the new folks (and old timers) for a fun night at 4F. Come hang out with us in the morning while we listen to Stephanie Miller.



Wish I could!
I'm stuck working on a front desk at a museum (*not* the job I was hired for) and can't listen to anything all day long but the clock ticking behind me.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/27/2016 03:54:16
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by BobR:
Thanks to all the new folks (and old timers) for a fun night at 4F. Come hang out with us in the morning while we listen to Stephanie Miller.



Wish I could!
I'm stuck working on a front desk at a museum (*not* the job I was hired for) and can't listen to anything all day long but the clock ticking behind me.



Sorry to hear that.