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Ask A Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 09/09/2008 10:44:51
Good Morning.
We've crossed yet another milestone....today is our 2,001st day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4155
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4016
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3694
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3296
Since Election (1/31/05): 2718
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 583
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 370
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 444
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 552, 547, 900, 000.00
I thought I'd start this morning by doing a little vetting of our own. Sarah Palin is such an unknown, I wonder what the veterans think of her?
Right out of the gate, I find "Veterans for McCain", which is a sub-page of the official McCain Website. Nothing to see there.
Pages deep into Google now, there's simply nothing. Palin has no position at all on our veterans and the issues they face. However, I did find an interesting eyewitness account of a typical "straight talk express" photo op...
Despite having no discernible policy on Iraq or the veterans, that hasn't stopped Governor Palin from attacking Senator Obama...
Turning at last to "On the Issues" information at last is starting to surface. It's a pretty disturbing picture.
Sarah Palin on War & Peace:
* We don't know what the plan is to ever end the war. (Aug 2008)
* Wants exit plan; also assurances to keep our troops safe. (Mar 2007)
* We have not been attacked since 2001; so support our troops. (Oct 2006)
* I support the mission of our troops in Iraq. (Oct 2006)
* Our troops in Iraq keep us safe at home. (Oct 2006)
* I support President Bush's efforts to stop terrorism. (Oct 2006)
Sarah Palin on Foreign Policy:
* Peace Corps strengthens US ties abroad & enriches US at home. (Jan 2007)
Sarah Palin on Homeland Security
* Don't worry about reading Al-Qaeda terrorists their rights. (Sep 2008)
* Strong military and sound energy. (Aug 2008)
* Armed forces, including my son, give us security and freedom. (Jan 2008)
* Ask all candidates "Are you doing all you can for security?". (Oct 2007)
* Visits Kuwait; encourages Alaska big game hunting to troops. (Sep 2007)
* Obligation to support our troops, even if criticizing war. (Jun 2007)
* Proclaim "Loyalty Day" to reaffirm loyalty to America. (Apr 2007)
* Promote from within, in Alaska's National Guard. (Nov 2006)
* Let military personnel know how much we support them. (Nov 2006)
I'm hoping more information comes out the closer we get to the election. I'm particularly interested in learning what the major veteran's organizations can find out. ((IAVA and IVAW...since the VFW is in McCain's pocket.)
We've crossed yet another milestone....today is our 2,001st day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4155
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4016
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3694
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3296
Since Election (1/31/05): 2718
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 583
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 370
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 444
We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 552, 547, 900, 000.00
I thought I'd start this morning by doing a little vetting of our own. Sarah Palin is such an unknown, I wonder what the veterans think of her?
Right out of the gate, I find "Veterans for McCain", which is a sub-page of the official McCain Website. Nothing to see there.
Pages deep into Google now, there's simply nothing. Palin has no position at all on our veterans and the issues they face. However, I did find an interesting eyewitness account of a typical "straight talk express" photo op...
Our family today had an interesting encounter that I wanted to share with you. We were eating at El Pinto restaurant in Albuquerque. It is the most popular New Mexican restaurant in town, a large sprawling compound with a number of dinning rooms and patio spaces.
We were eating outside in the patio closest to the main road and had just finishing lunch when I saw the McCain bus drive by! It was followed closely by a number of police motorcycles, secret service SUVS, and press vans. It was obvious they were coming to El Pinto!
We figured we'd head out and see if we could get a closer look. I decided this might be my one chance, to ask one question of each candidate. I carried Caterina (16 months) along with me to meet the candidates.
I worked my way through a number of other dinners and secret service and finally got to the patio on the other side of the restaurant. I could see John McCain ahead of me shaking hands with folks. Sorry the picture is so blurry. I had a baby in one arm and an iPhone in the other!
McCain worked his way up to me and Cat and as I shook his hand, I asked, "Sir, I respect your service but, why were you against the GI bill?" Senator McCain, paused, he looked a bit surprised at the question and then he said, "Nice to meet you." I repeated the question and he repeated his non-answer. He quickly worked his way down the line. So much for straight-talk!
I have been genuinely curious as to why he wouldn't support a bill so important to veterans (McCain opposed this bill from the beginning and then skipped the vote). Also, I was surprised at myself as I as I almost involuntarily prefaced my question with, "Sir, I respect your service but..." No wonder he's gotten a free ride by the press, I think this reaction is not unique and the press must feel the same pressure that I felt. Perhaps that explains why his poor support for veteran issues isn't well known.
Sarah Palin was next! I couldn't resist trying for a better photo. It is still blurry, but talk about a close encounter.
Sarah first looked at Caterina said hello, and I shook her hand. I asked, "Are supporting Ted Stevens this year?" She replied, "He's under indictment you know...his trial is in September." I replied, "But are you voting for him?" She walked away without answering.
I don't think this question will be answered until after Senator Stevens' trial in September and perhaps never. After all, Ted Stevens is still running for the Senate this year and a Republican vote, corrupt or not, is still a Republican vote. I was amazed that she offered up, "He's under indictment you know." She's going to need some serious handling before they let her into the wild!
I followed Governor Palin out and they stopped to purchase some salsa. This whole stop was just a photo-op and my questions, any questions were obviously not part of the script. No townhall meeting here.
After less than 15 minutes at the Restaurant the Straight-NoTalk Express headed out.
My wife Angela was at the entrance with my son Andrea holding up a home made Obama sign and shouting at McCain, Palin and the press. It made me very proud. A memorable lunch at El Pinto.
Despite having no discernible policy on Iraq or the veterans, that hasn't stopped Governor Palin from attacking Senator Obama...
LEE’S SUMMIT, MO -- Palin said here today that Obama “still can’t acknowledge the coming victory in Iraq.”
“He said he’s for change. But in Iraq, change happened, and that’s a great thing for America, senator,” Palin said at a rally with McCain at The Pavilion at John Knox Village, about 23 miles southeast of Kansas City.
Palin also repeated her line -- which fact-checkers mostly dispute -- that she stopped the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. “I told Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere. If the state wanted to build a bridge, we’d build it ourselves.”
But as our friends at Politifact put it: "In the fall of 2005, Congress removed the language specifically directing the money to the bridge, but it kept the money in place and left it up to Alaska to decide which transportation projects the state would like to spend it on. By the time Palin pulled the plug on the Gravina bridge project in September 2007, much of the federal funding for the bridge had already been diverted to other transportation projects."
Later today, Palin will take her first solo flight -- without McCain -- but has no solo events scheduled. She is skipping a Chicago fundraiser McCain and is heading straight to Cincinnati, where she will attend events with McCain on Tuesday. Campaign aides said spending the time in Ohio was a better use of her time, but would not detail what she would be doing.
Turning at last to "On the Issues" information at last is starting to surface. It's a pretty disturbing picture.
Sarah Palin on War & Peace:
* We don't know what the plan is to ever end the war. (Aug 2008)
* Wants exit plan; also assurances to keep our troops safe. (Mar 2007)
* We have not been attacked since 2001; so support our troops. (Oct 2006)
* I support the mission of our troops in Iraq. (Oct 2006)
* Our troops in Iraq keep us safe at home. (Oct 2006)
* I support President Bush's efforts to stop terrorism. (Oct 2006)
Sarah Palin on Foreign Policy:
* Peace Corps strengthens US ties abroad & enriches US at home. (Jan 2007)
Sarah Palin on Homeland Security
* Don't worry about reading Al-Qaeda terrorists their rights. (Sep 2008)
* Strong military and sound energy. (Aug 2008)
* Armed forces, including my son, give us security and freedom. (Jan 2008)
* Ask all candidates "Are you doing all you can for security?". (Oct 2007)
* Visits Kuwait; encourages Alaska big game hunting to troops. (Sep 2007)
* Obligation to support our troops, even if criticizing war. (Jun 2007)
* Proclaim "Loyalty Day" to reaffirm loyalty to America. (Apr 2007)
* Promote from within, in Alaska's National Guard. (Nov 2006)
* Let military personnel know how much we support them. (Nov 2006)
I'm hoping more information comes out the closer we get to the election. I'm particularly interested in learning what the major veteran's organizations can find out. ((IAVA and IVAW...since the VFW is in McCain's pocket.)
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Comment by 
m-hadley on 09/09/2008 11:57:17
m-hadley on 09/09/2008 11:57:17
Mornin' Everybody,
Interesting vignette at El Pinto (I lived in Albuquerque for years and hardly consider Pinto the best restaurant in town, but whatever) the revealing encounter with the McSame/McPalin ticket speaks volumes about their attitudes and the simple fact that the GOP just does not get it, particularly nuance. I am worried, and I just don't know if the public is as savvy as they need to be to make an intelligent decision this November. I hope that the debates help :wacko:
I've got meetings all morning so this may be my only visit to the bloggie until mid-day, carry on kids.... :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
Interesting vignette at El Pinto (I lived in Albuquerque for years and hardly consider Pinto the best restaurant in town, but whatever) the revealing encounter with the McSame/McPalin ticket speaks volumes about their attitudes and the simple fact that the GOP just does not get it, particularly nuance. I am worried, and I just don't know if the public is as savvy as they need to be to make an intelligent decision this November. I hope that the debates help :wacko:
I've got meetings all morning so this may be my only visit to the bloggie until mid-day, carry on kids.... :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
BobR on 09/09/2008 12:16:25
BobR on 09/09/2008 12:16:25
We already know McCain's position: Give lip service to the troops, then vote against them (or is that the Republican platform?).
Palin is a cipher, but since she's willing to use her son's service to promote her campaign, I expect it's more of the same.
Palin is a cipher, but since she's willing to use her son's service to promote her campaign, I expect it's more of the same.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 12:25:11
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 12:25:11
Morning :hug:
THought the El Pinto stuff was interesting still looked like "all hat now cattle" repubs.
THought the El Pinto stuff was interesting still looked like "all hat now cattle" repubs.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 12:27:22
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 12:27:22
Hello all 
:dance:
Still trying to wake up - cold caffeine didn't help, the hot stuff isn't working either. Stayed up past my bedtime last night to catch Rachel's new show.
Plus am in serious SMS withdrawl without even Frangela to keep me company. :cry:
:dance:Still trying to wake up - cold caffeine didn't help, the hot stuff isn't working either. Stayed up past my bedtime last night to catch Rachel's new show.
Plus am in serious SMS withdrawl without even Frangela to keep me company. :cry:
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 12:31:26
Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 12:31:26
There is going to be a dark cold cloud in Jacksonville Mondee. McSame is going to be doing a pancake breakfast.
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/09/2008 12:39:41
TriSec on 09/09/2008 12:39:41
Ah, well....Sen. McCain is also coming to NH Sunday to visit the fabulous New Hampshire Motor Speedway....
But Motorcycle Weekend was back in June. And we didn't have a "Miss Cowpie" contest for Cindy, either.
And even though it's NH, there's a lot of racing fans that make the trek from this Commonwealth.
But Motorcycle Weekend was back in June. And we didn't have a "Miss Cowpie" contest for Cindy, either.
And even though it's NH, there's a lot of racing fans that make the trek from this Commonwealth.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 12:47:32
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 12:47:32
Morning all.. Ooh I might be in New Hampshire this weekend for the McBush visit. Think I can convince the group to head over to the speedway and give the ol' bastard a proper greeting?
Comment by 
Shane-O on 09/09/2008 12:49:41
Shane-O on 09/09/2008 12:49:41
Part 1 of 4 (plus a Coda) -- as Bill O is doing four parts with Obama (only two parts aired thus far). This is the first 1:21 of 7 minutes. Probably a waste of 10 hours of my life, but, eh... (wait for the gimmick around 1:11... 
)
)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 12:54:47
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 12:54:47
:spit: Shane-O!
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 13:00:39
Beauty!
:lol:
BobR on 09/09/2008 13:00:39
Quote by Shane-O:
Part 1 of 4 (plus a Coda) -- as Bill O is doing four parts with Obama (only two parts aired thus far). This is the first 1:21 of 7 minutes. Probably a waste of 10 hours of my life, but, eh... (wait for the gimmick around 1:11...
Beauty!
:lol:
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 13:02:11
BobR on 09/09/2008 13:02:11
Misguided guided missile kills 2 civilians in Afghanistan...
But notice the title of the article? It's not a "U.S." missile, it's a NATO missile... :rolleyes2:
But notice the title of the article? It's not a "U.S." missile, it's a NATO missile... :rolleyes2:
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 13:04:44
TriSec on 09/09/2008 13:04:44
Oh, Poop. Momma's still on vacation.
New Rule: SMS is only allowed one day off. Ever.
New Rule: SMS is only allowed one day off. Ever.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/09/2008 13:09:56
Raine on 09/09/2008 13:09:56
Shane-o! 
Good morning everyone!
Excellent vetting Tri Sec. She really has nothing, huh?
Good morning everyone!
Excellent vetting Tri Sec. She really has nothing, huh?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 13:13:22
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 13:13:22
hypocrisy thy name is Republican
Comment by Scoopster on 09/09/2008 13:37:08
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 13:37:08
Warning: not safe for children, or work for that matter..
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 13:48:39
Raine on 09/09/2008 13:48:39
Oh, Scoop... that gave me chills.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 13:52:33
Raine on 09/09/2008 13:52:33
I am still trying to understand WHY Palin Flew while she was in Labor.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 13:53:13
Raine on 09/09/2008 13:53:13
Not to mention... why did she even LEAVE Alaska so late in her pregnancy?
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 13:54:25
I was telling Mom that story on the way to work - she thought it was a stupid move on Palins part and endangered the life of the baby
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 13:54:25
Quote by Raine:
I am still trying to understand WHY Palin Flew while she was in Labor.
I was telling Mom that story on the way to work - she thought it was a stupid move on Palins part and endangered the life of the baby
Comment by 
starling310 on 09/09/2008 13:57:03
Mmmmm.....Pancakes.
starling310 on 09/09/2008 13:57:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
There is going to be a dark cold cloud in Jacksonville Mondee. McSame is going to be doing a pancake breakfast.
Mmmmm.....Pancakes.
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 14:03:45
:oolong:
BobR on 09/09/2008 14:03:45
Quote by starling310:
Mmmmm.....Pancakes.
:oolong:
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:07:40
TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:07:40
Flying while pregnant... It's a judgment call; does this indicate bad judgment on behalf of the VP candidate?
If she gambles with her own health and the health of her unborn baby, what does that say about how concerned she would be about the rest of the United States?
If she gambles with her own health and the health of her unborn baby, what does that say about how concerned she would be about the rest of the United States?
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:08:26
TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:08:26
Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
There is going to be a dark cold cloud in Jacksonville Mondee. McSame is going to be doing a pancake breakfast.
Mmmmm.....Pancakes.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 14:12:17
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 14:12:17
Quote by TriSec:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
There is going to be a dark cold cloud in Jacksonville Mondee. McSame is going to be doing a pancake breakfast.
Mmmmm.....Pancakes.
:rofl:
:rofl: :rofl:
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:13:15
Raising prices to 99.99 cents????
I don't know about you, but I don't have very many fractional coins lying around.
Unless maybe they're accepting
.999 silver leaf?
TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:13:15
Quote by Raine:
.99 stores raising prices due to economy.
Raising prices to 99.99 cents????
I don't know about you, but I don't have very many fractional coins lying around.
Unless maybe they're accepting
.999 silver leaf?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 14:18:08
Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 14:18:08
We are a collective deelite!
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 14:19:43
Remember Five & Dimes?
Inflation has come a long way...
BobR on 09/09/2008 14:19:43
Quote by TriSec:
Raising prices to 99.99 cents????
I don't know about you, but I don't have very many fractional coins lying around.
Unless maybe they're accepting
.999 silver leaf?
Remember Five & Dimes?
Inflation has come a long way...
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 14:20:49
Raine on 09/09/2008 14:20:49
:rofl: It not Uter-you, not's Uter-us!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 14:21:54
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 14:21:54
That's hysterical :lol:
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/09/2008 14:22:18
livingonli on 09/09/2008 14:22:18
Good morning everyone. Another crummy, rainy day here today. I think I want to crawl under a rock.
Comment by 
MNRN on 09/09/2008 14:22:38
MNRN on 09/09/2008 14:22:38
good morning. thought I would check in as a way to avoid starting all my homework!
Comment by Scoopster on 09/09/2008 14:22:52
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 14:22:52
Heh.. RawStory has a picture of Palin's head with a caption about Kim Jong-Il having a stroke.
Coincidence? You decide.
Coincidence? You decide.
Comment by MNRN on 09/09/2008 14:29:45
MNRN on 09/09/2008 14:29:45
btw, flying while pregnant is a judgement call. Your nurse flew to London while 6 months pregnant.....and to Miami about 3 weeks before delivery. Both were business trips, and on the last one, I brought my mom along just in case....I was a higher risk mom, but my practioners felt comfortable with my flights.
I have a friend who is pregs with twins right now, and they don't want to let her fly at 20 weeks....so its all about the situation.
From a medical standpoint, I can't believe she flew just because it was her what, 5th delivery...they do tend to go quicker after multiple births....but I guess she knew her own body at that point.
I would rather argue her lack of judgement on more cerebral points, since there are so many of em :wink:
I have a friend who is pregs with twins right now, and they don't want to let her fly at 20 weeks....so its all about the situation.
From a medical standpoint, I can't believe she flew just because it was her what, 5th delivery...they do tend to go quicker after multiple births....but I guess she knew her own body at that point.
I would rather argue her lack of judgement on more cerebral points, since there are so many of em :wink:
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 14:30:33
You mean Labour, right?
Wait a minute, how can she run for VP when she's in British government? If they're going to do that I'd rather have Tony the Poodle.
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 14:30:33
Quote by Raine:
I am still trying to understand WHY Palin Flew while she was in Labor.
You mean Labour, right?
Wait a minute, how can she run for VP when she's in British government? If they're going to do that I'd rather have Tony the Poodle.
Comment by starling310 on 09/09/2008 14:31:49
Second.
starling310 on 09/09/2008 14:31:49
Quote by MNRN:
I would rather argue her lack of judgement on more cerebral points, since there are so many of em :wink:
Second.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 14:32:55
Raine on 09/09/2008 14:32:55
:foil: Kim Jung Il may have ahd a stroke? (listening to the AP news)
Interesting considering I have been reading intertube rumours that he actually died a few years ago. I am wondering if, now that the Secret is out, they have decided to finally let the ghost go away...
Interesting considering I have been reading intertube rumours that he actually died a few years ago. I am wondering if, now that the Secret is out, they have decided to finally let the ghost go away...
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 14:35:41
it's wet, muddy, and wormy under a rock stay out and play with the rest of us :hug:
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 14:35:41
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone. Another crummy, rainy day here today. I think I want to crawl under a rock.
it's wet, muddy, and wormy under a rock stay out and play with the rest of us :hug:
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 14:41:05
livingonli on 09/09/2008 14:41:05
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 14:42:32
Raine on 09/09/2008 14:42:32
Forget Caribou Barbie... Sarah Palin is Mooselini.
Comment by MNRN on 09/09/2008 14:43:16
just as long as KJI lives on via Sir Jim Ward, I will be okay....
MNRN on 09/09/2008 14:43:16
Quote by Raine:
:foil: Kim Jung Il may have ahd a stroke? (listening to the AP news)
Interesting considering I have been reading intertube rumours that he actually died a few years ago. I am wondering if, now that the Secret is out, they have decided to finally let the ghost go away...
just as long as KJI lives on via Sir Jim Ward, I will be okay....
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 14:45:19
That's what I call Reforming Government!
:rolleyes2:
BobR on 09/09/2008 14:45:19
Quote by livingonli:
Palin charged taxpayers expenses for nights she stayed at home.
That's what I call Reforming Government!
:rolleyes2:
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:45:37
Hey now, Mussolini was a better organizer!
TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:45:37
Quote by Raine:
Forget Caribou Barbie... Sarah Palin is Mooselini.
Hey now, Mussolini was a better organizer!
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 14:45:53
:spit:
BobR on 09/09/2008 14:45:53
Quote by Raine:
Forget Caribou Barbie... Sarah Palin is Mooselini.
:spit:
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:50:48
TriSec on 09/09/2008 14:50:48
Jim Hightower for today:
Among the media and political elites, there has been an anguished outcry against Sen. Barack Obama’s call for ending the Bush tax giveaways to people making more than $250,000 a year. Wait, they wail, that’s us! We’re not rich, we’re the middle class. Give us our tax breaks!
Some, especially Washington Republicans, go so far as to insist that no monetary figure can measure who is wealthy in America, so there should be no upper limit on who gets the goodies. Sen. John McCain – who married into a vast inherited fortune and ardently supports continued tax breaks for the rich – rushed forth to claim that some people are “poor,” even “if they are billionaires.” The difference between billionaires and bus drivers, they say, is merely a matter of attitude, not of income and assets.
Time to get a grip on reality. What would you guess is the median income for American families? Is it $250,000, or even a hundred thousand? No. It’s just $50,000 – meaning half of our households struggle to make ends meet on less than that. Indeed, those pulling down more than $250,000 a year are among the wealthiest two percent of American families, enjoying incomes five times greater than the typical family.
But … but… but… stammer the offended punditry and politicos, we live in Washington, DC, where it takes much more to be rich. Actually, not that much more. Even in that land of millionaire lobbyists, median family income is $83,000 a year.
A quarter-million bucks a year certainly doesn’t put you in the same zip code as billionaires, but neither are you living in the same world as bus drivers. Obama’s tax policies are rightly focused on benefiting America’s real majority. Why should the richest two percent of families – including billionaires – be getting tax breaks?
“Sorry, Pal, You’re Rich,” www.newsweek.com, August 27, 2008.
Among the media and political elites, there has been an anguished outcry against Sen. Barack Obama’s call for ending the Bush tax giveaways to people making more than $250,000 a year. Wait, they wail, that’s us! We’re not rich, we’re the middle class. Give us our tax breaks!
Some, especially Washington Republicans, go so far as to insist that no monetary figure can measure who is wealthy in America, so there should be no upper limit on who gets the goodies. Sen. John McCain – who married into a vast inherited fortune and ardently supports continued tax breaks for the rich – rushed forth to claim that some people are “poor,” even “if they are billionaires.” The difference between billionaires and bus drivers, they say, is merely a matter of attitude, not of income and assets.
Time to get a grip on reality. What would you guess is the median income for American families? Is it $250,000, or even a hundred thousand? No. It’s just $50,000 – meaning half of our households struggle to make ends meet on less than that. Indeed, those pulling down more than $250,000 a year are among the wealthiest two percent of American families, enjoying incomes five times greater than the typical family.
But … but… but… stammer the offended punditry and politicos, we live in Washington, DC, where it takes much more to be rich. Actually, not that much more. Even in that land of millionaire lobbyists, median family income is $83,000 a year.
A quarter-million bucks a year certainly doesn’t put you in the same zip code as billionaires, but neither are you living in the same world as bus drivers. Obama’s tax policies are rightly focused on benefiting America’s real majority. Why should the richest two percent of families – including billionaires – be getting tax breaks?
“Sorry, Pal, You’re Rich,” www.newsweek.com, August 27, 2008.
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 14:58:32
livingonli on 09/09/2008 14:58:32
So, if W wasn't born with a silver foot in his mouth would he be more like a member of the Bundy family walking around with a hand on his crotch and scratching himself?
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 15:00:14
TriSec on 09/09/2008 15:00:14
Washington Mutual on the brink of failure?
Washington Mutual Inc. (WM) ousted Chief Executive Kerry Killinger while also announcing it entered a memorandum of understanding with the Office of Thrift Supervision, meaning the bank is now effectively on probation.
WaMu said the regulatory warning concerns aspects of the bank's operations, especially related to risk management and compliance functions.
The bank said it will provide regulators an updated, multi-year business plan and forecast for its earnings, asset quality, capital and business segment performance. In a bid to reassure investors, WaMu said the plan "will not require the company to raise capital, increase liquidity or make changes to the products and services it provides to customers."
Shares jumped 19% to $5.09 in recent premarket trading. WaMu's shares have fallen about 85% in the past year, and analysts say its financial position is among the worst of any major U.S. financial institution.
Killinger, who helped build Washington Mutual into the nation's largest thrift and then presided over its rapid decline, had been fighting off a growing chorus of calls for his removal for months.
Alan Fishman, currently chairman of New York commercial mortgage broker Meridian Capital Group, will succeed Killinger as CEO while also joining the board. Before joining Meridian in 2007, Fishman, 62 years old, was president and chief operating officer of Philadelphia-based Sovereign Bancorp Inc. (SOV), the nation's second-largest thrift.
WaMu Chairman Stephen E. Frank called Fishman "the ideal executive to succeed Kerry Killinger and lead WaMu through its current challenges." He added that Fishman's experience "brings a unique combination of in-depth industry knowledge, an entrepreneurial approach, and strong management skills that make him the right choice to be CEO of WaMu at this critical juncture."
Washington Mutual Inc. (WM) ousted Chief Executive Kerry Killinger while also announcing it entered a memorandum of understanding with the Office of Thrift Supervision, meaning the bank is now effectively on probation.
WaMu said the regulatory warning concerns aspects of the bank's operations, especially related to risk management and compliance functions.
The bank said it will provide regulators an updated, multi-year business plan and forecast for its earnings, asset quality, capital and business segment performance. In a bid to reassure investors, WaMu said the plan "will not require the company to raise capital, increase liquidity or make changes to the products and services it provides to customers."
Shares jumped 19% to $5.09 in recent premarket trading. WaMu's shares have fallen about 85% in the past year, and analysts say its financial position is among the worst of any major U.S. financial institution.
Killinger, who helped build Washington Mutual into the nation's largest thrift and then presided over its rapid decline, had been fighting off a growing chorus of calls for his removal for months.
Alan Fishman, currently chairman of New York commercial mortgage broker Meridian Capital Group, will succeed Killinger as CEO while also joining the board. Before joining Meridian in 2007, Fishman, 62 years old, was president and chief operating officer of Philadelphia-based Sovereign Bancorp Inc. (SOV), the nation's second-largest thrift.
WaMu Chairman Stephen E. Frank called Fishman "the ideal executive to succeed Kerry Killinger and lead WaMu through its current challenges." He added that Fishman's experience "brings a unique combination of in-depth industry knowledge, an entrepreneurial approach, and strong management skills that make him the right choice to be CEO of WaMu at this critical juncture."
Comment by AuntAzalea on 09/09/2008 15:14:54
Finally on to catch up on my blog reading! I find it rather ballsy, to say the least, for Palin to comment on Obama's Iraq policy when she doesn't have a better idea. And McCain's plan is no plan at all!
Wow! :thud:
Wow! :thud:
Comment by AuntAzalea on 09/09/2008 15:16:34
He's still a "bachelor" isn't he?
:lol:
Quote by Raine:
Woah.
Ed Koch is Endorsing Obama.
Says Palin is too scary...
He's still a "bachelor" isn't he?
:lol:
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 15:17:48
Raine on 09/09/2008 15:17:48
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 15:20:05
BobR on 09/09/2008 15:20:05
I got this from a link in the post Raine cited:
If you grow up in Hawaii you’re “exotic.”
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you’re the quintessential “American story.”
Similarly, if you name your kid Barack you’re “unpatriotic.”
Name your kid Track, you’re “colorful.”
If you’re a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fulling vetting the individual you’re “reckless.”
A Republican who doesn’t fully vet is a “maverick.”
more...
If you grow up in Hawaii you’re “exotic.”
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you’re the quintessential “American story.”
Similarly, if you name your kid Barack you’re “unpatriotic.”
Name your kid Track, you’re “colorful.”
If you’re a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fulling vetting the individual you’re “reckless.”
A Republican who doesn’t fully vet is a “maverick.”
more...
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 15:20:49
Uncomfirmed...
Uncle Ed just never found that right lady. :P
I loved this part:
Raine on 09/09/2008 15:20:49
Quote by AuntAzalea:Quote by Raine:
Woah.
Ed Koch is Endorsing Obama.
Says Palin is too scary...
He's still a "bachelor" isn't he?
:lol:
Uncle Ed just never found that right lady. :P
I loved this part:
"Protecting and defending the U.S. means more than defending us from foreign attacks. It includes defending the public with respect to their civil rights, civil liberties and other needs, e.g., national health insurance, the right of abortion, the continuation of Social Security, gay rights, other rights of privacy, fair progressive taxation and a host of other needs and rights."
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 15:22:58
That's kinda sad - she's got thick thighs and a hoochie skirt
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 15:22:58
That's kinda sad - she's got thick thighs and a hoochie skirt
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 15:23:04
Editor's choice on the same linked page.
"Italian politicians 'praise' Mussolini era"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 15:23:04
Editor's choice on the same linked page.
"Italian politicians 'praise' Mussolini era"
:rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 15:28:32
The MORE is well worht the read... SO TRUE!
Raine on 09/09/2008 15:28:32
Quote by BobR:
I got this from a link in the post Raine cited:
If you grow up in Hawaii you’re “exotic.”
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, you’re the quintessential “American story.”
Similarly, if you name your kid Barack you’re “unpatriotic.”
Name your kid Track, you’re “colorful.”
If you’re a Democrat and you make a VP pick without fulling vetting the individual you’re “reckless.”
A Republican who doesn’t fully vet is a “maverick.”
more...
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 15:32:20
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 15:32:20
Ms. Palins glasses aren't that cute.
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 15:37:17
livingonli on 09/09/2008 15:37:17
It's gotten dark here. Storm's a -brewin'.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 15:38:28
zOMG! that is hilarious!
Raine on 09/09/2008 15:38:28
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Editor's choice on the same linked page.
"Italian politicians 'praise' Mussolini era"
:rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 09/09/2008 15:39:43
starling310 on 09/09/2008 15:39:43
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 15:39:53
I wanna be governor! I wanna bill the state, and I don't wanna pay taxes on that. ...
Raine on 09/09/2008 15:39:53
Quote by Random:
Why being a Governer rocks
Comment by 
Random on 09/09/2008 15:40:38
rawr. Better than a barbie.
Random on 09/09/2008 15:40:38
rawr. Better than a barbie.
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 15:53:20
livingonli on 09/09/2008 15:53:20
Time to head off in the pouring rain to the endocrinologist.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 15:55:53
Raine on 09/09/2008 15:55:53
McCain and Palin once again Play *Barracuda*
But this is AWESOME....
But this is AWESOME....
Former Heart guitarist says part of the royalties will go to supporting Obama.
LEBANON, Ohio (CNN) – The rock band "Heart" may have asked John McCain and Sarah Palin stop playing their song "Barracuda" at their rallies, but the campaign is apparently paying no heed.
The track — played at the Republican National Convention in honor of the Vice Presidential nominee, who earned the nickname "Sarah Barracuda" playing high school basketball in Alaska — was pumped through the streets of Lebanon, Ohio on Tuesday morning at an outdoor rally before the GOP ticket showed up.
When the song was played after Palin's convention speech last week, the band members quickly requested that McCain and Palin pull the plug.
"Sarah Palin's views and values in no way represent us as American women," Ann and Nancy Wilson told Entertainment Weekly. "We ask that our song 'Barracuda' no longer be used to promote her image."
But the McCain camp said last week that it had paid for and obtained all necessary licenses before using the song.
And the band's former guitarist, Roger Fisher, told Reuters last week that the McCain camp’s use of the song benefited both sides: Republicans get "the ingenious placement of a kick-ass song" — and Heart gets headlines and royalties. Part of that money, said Fisher, would be heading to the Arizona senator’s opponent: "With my contribution to Obama's campaign, the Republicans are now supporting Obama," he told Reuters.
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 15:59:57
BobR on 09/09/2008 15:59:57
And Frangela go out on a great note! :clap:
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 16:01:35
:clap:
That's what you call making lemonaide!
BobR on 09/09/2008 16:01:35
Quote by Raine:
McCain and Palin once again Play *Barracuda*
But this is AWESOME....
:clap:
That's what you call making lemonaide!
Comment by Scoopster on 09/09/2008 16:20:33
I suppose McCain can now say he's supporting change.
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 16:20:33
Quote by Raine:
McCain and Palin once again Play *Barracuda*
But this is AWESOME....Former Heart guitarist says part of the royalties will go to supporting Obama.
LEBANON, Ohio (CNN) – The rock band "Heart" may have asked John McCain and Sarah Palin stop playing their song "Barracuda" at their rallies, but the campaign is apparently paying no heed.
The track — played at the Republican National Convention in honor of the Vice Presidential nominee, who earned the nickname "Sarah Barracuda" playing high school basketball in Alaska — was pumped through the streets of Lebanon, Ohio on Tuesday morning at an outdoor rally before the GOP ticket showed up.
When the song was played after Palin's convention speech last week, the band members quickly requested that McCain and Palin pull the plug.
"Sarah Palin's views and values in no way represent us as American women," Ann and Nancy Wilson told Entertainment Weekly. "We ask that our song 'Barracuda' no longer be used to promote her image."
But the McCain camp said last week that it had paid for and obtained all necessary licenses before using the song.
And the band's former guitarist, Roger Fisher, told Reuters last week that the McCain camp’s use of the song benefited both sides: Republicans get "the ingenious placement of a kick-ass song" — and Heart gets headlines and royalties. Part of that money, said Fisher, would be heading to the Arizona senator’s opponent: "With my contribution to Obama's campaign, the Republicans are now supporting Obama," he told Reuters.
I suppose McCain can now say he's supporting change.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 16:22:37
Raine on 09/09/2008 16:22:37
What the difference between and Pitbull and a Hockey Mom? A pitbull doesn't need Reverened Hagee to tell it what to bark.
Woof.
Sarah Palin's now famous "lipstick" joke from her acceptance speech Wednesday night is generating lots of buzz in Democratic circles and the liberal blogosphere. Not because of how funny it was, but because of its similarity to another (in)famous one-liner delivered by controversial evangelical pastor John Hagee.
Palin, who, like Hagee, is an evangelical Christian, had Republicans inside St. Paul's Xcel Energy Center doubled over laughing when she said, "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick."
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin speaks at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2008. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)
Hagee, in his book "What Every Man Wants in a Woman," wrote, "Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick."
Woof.
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 16:28:19
You kind of wonder whether she knows how degrading to women the source of the "joke" is (written by a speechwriter, not Palin herself), and whether it even matters to her.
BobR on 09/09/2008 16:28:19
Quote by Raine:
What the difference between and Pitbull and a Hockey Mom? A pitbull doesn't need Reverened Hagee to tell it what to bark.
Woof.
You kind of wonder whether she knows how degrading to women the source of the "joke" is (written by a speechwriter, not Palin herself), and whether it even matters to her.
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 16:34:06
TriSec on 09/09/2008 16:34:06
With all the pandering, I suppose it was inevitable...
Pandas for McCain!
Pandas for McCain!
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 16:38:58
Raine on 09/09/2008 16:38:58
Fox news calls Rachel a "Lesbian Air America Host"
Even by the low standards of the Republican News Network, this morning's attack on Rachel Maddow, on the Fox News network, as a "lesbian Air America host" was a despicable new low. Those words, an open appeal to bigotry and hate, said by an alleged media analyst named Tim Graham, were met with laughter and chortles by the Fox News team on air. This is sick and despicable stuff, even for Fox News.
Here is a message to Barack Obama: You need to spend more time fighting back against the lies and smears of a Swift Boat campaign more ugly than the campaign against John Kerry, and less time having sweet-talk meetings with Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes followed by professorial discourse with Bill O'Reilly. This is war, Barack, and you had better fight back.
The sickness and dementia of a purported news network airing with smug laughs and happy chortles a naked appeal to hatred and bigotry in this attack on "a lesbian Air America host" is a low that even a Republican cable organization like Fox should never stoop to.
Let’s see if the "Fox Democrats," such as Lanny Davis, Howard Wolfson and Susan Estrich, have the strength of principle to stand against this. One of them recently wrote of how proud he was that both parties nominated four great candidates. Is this Fox Democrat proud they nominated Sarah Palin? Is this a Democrat, a real Democrat? A Democrat proud that Republicans nominated Sarah Palin? Huh?
Let’s see if Democrats can summon the steel and will and fight to answer this campaign of personal destruction and let’s see if Barack Obama can toughen up his game, and play NFL Super Bowl football.
In the meantime, Fox News should be ashamed and embarrassed that they allow their shows to be used to attack "a lesbian Air America host.”
Sick is sick. Despicable is despicable. And this is sick and despicable. And each and every Republican and Fox News Democrat should say it.
===============================================
I am thinking is what will happen.
What next? They call someone Uppity?
Even by the low standards of the Republican News Network, this morning's attack on Rachel Maddow, on the Fox News network, as a "lesbian Air America host" was a despicable new low. Those words, an open appeal to bigotry and hate, said by an alleged media analyst named Tim Graham, were met with laughter and chortles by the Fox News team on air. This is sick and despicable stuff, even for Fox News.
Here is a message to Barack Obama: You need to spend more time fighting back against the lies and smears of a Swift Boat campaign more ugly than the campaign against John Kerry, and less time having sweet-talk meetings with Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes followed by professorial discourse with Bill O'Reilly. This is war, Barack, and you had better fight back.
The sickness and dementia of a purported news network airing with smug laughs and happy chortles a naked appeal to hatred and bigotry in this attack on "a lesbian Air America host" is a low that even a Republican cable organization like Fox should never stoop to.
Let’s see if the "Fox Democrats," such as Lanny Davis, Howard Wolfson and Susan Estrich, have the strength of principle to stand against this. One of them recently wrote of how proud he was that both parties nominated four great candidates. Is this Fox Democrat proud they nominated Sarah Palin? Is this a Democrat, a real Democrat? A Democrat proud that Republicans nominated Sarah Palin? Huh?
Let’s see if Democrats can summon the steel and will and fight to answer this campaign of personal destruction and let’s see if Barack Obama can toughen up his game, and play NFL Super Bowl football.
In the meantime, Fox News should be ashamed and embarrassed that they allow their shows to be used to attack "a lesbian Air America host.”
Sick is sick. Despicable is despicable. And this is sick and despicable. And each and every Republican and Fox News Democrat should say it.
===============================================
I am thinking is what will happen.
What next? They call someone Uppity?
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 16:42:19
I am still angry at what she said, and how people thought it was so funny. She allowed herself, happily to be called a bitch.
This joke was not funny it was degrading to women... to strong women to woman who fight everyday... without being compared to a pitbull... which is a whole other situation.
Raine on 09/09/2008 16:42:19
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
What the difference between and Pitbull and a Hockey Mom? A pitbull doesn't need Reverened Hagee to tell it what to bark.
Woof.
You kind of wonder whether she knows how degrading to women the source of the "joke" is (written by a speechwriter, not Palin herself), and whether it even matters to her.
This joke was not funny it was degrading to women... to strong women to woman who fight everyday... without being compared to a pitbull... which is a whole other situation.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 16:47:55
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 16:47:55
Wow. Looks like Saturday afternoon out there now.
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 16:58:30
TriSec on 09/09/2008 16:58:30
Had a thought.
Working backwards, we've had "hockey moms", "security moms", "NASCAR dads", and the grandaddy of them all, "soccer moms".
Who comes up with these alleged 'target' demographics, anyway?
And when do us normal folks get to be a part of that?
(Although I suppose "foreclosed families" doesn't have that same ring...)
Working backwards, we've had "hockey moms", "security moms", "NASCAR dads", and the grandaddy of them all, "soccer moms".
Who comes up with these alleged 'target' demographics, anyway?
And when do us normal folks get to be a part of that?
(Although I suppose "foreclosed families" doesn't have that same ring...)
Comment by wickedpam on 09/09/2008 17:06:14
I never seem to fall into any of the "prime" demos
wickedpam on 09/09/2008 17:06:14
Quote by TriSec:
Had a thought.
Working backwards, we've had "hockey moms", "security moms", "NASCAR dads", and the grandaddy of them all, "soccer moms".
Who comes up with these alleged 'target' demographics, anyway?
And when do us normal folks get to be a part of that?
(Although I suppose "foreclosed families" doesn't have that same ring...)
I never seem to fall into any of the "prime" demos
Comment by Scoopster on 09/09/2008 17:12:53
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 17:12:53
Oh my what a thunderstorm..
Comment by Scoopster on 09/09/2008 17:23:39
Reality Moms
Common Sense Families
Tired of the Bullshit Dads
Scoopster on 09/09/2008 17:23:39
Quote by TriSec:
Had a thought.
Working backwards, we've had "hockey moms", "security moms", "NASCAR dads", and the grandaddy of them all, "soccer moms".
Who comes up with these alleged 'target' demographics, anyway?
And when do us normal folks get to be a part of that?
(Although I suppose "foreclosed families" doesn't have that same ring...)
Reality Moms
Common Sense Families
Tired of the Bullshit Dads
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 17:31:14
Raine on 09/09/2008 17:31:14
HAs anyone been follwing this story?
A 10-count federal indictment unsealed Monday charges Kevin Ring, 37, with conspiring with Abramoff to corrupt congressional and executive-branch officials by giving them things of value as a reward for helping Ring and his clients.
Prior to becoming a lobbyist with Abramoff, Ring worked for Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif., who remains under investigation in the Abramoff probe.
Abramoff was sentenced last week to four years in prison.
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A 10-count federal indictment unsealed Monday charges Kevin Ring, 37, with conspiring with Abramoff to corrupt congressional and executive-branch officials by giving them things of value as a reward for helping Ring and his clients.
Prior to becoming a lobbyist with Abramoff, Ring worked for Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif., who remains under investigation in the Abramoff probe.
Abramoff was sentenced last week to four years in prison.
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Comment by Random on 09/09/2008 17:37:02
"Stop Crying" Dads
Stay at home Dads
Sensitive Males
Honor Students
Random on 09/09/2008 17:37:02
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by TriSec:
Had a thought.
Working backwards, we've had "hockey moms", "security moms", "NASCAR dads", and the grandaddy of them all, "soccer moms".
Who comes up with these alleged 'target' demographics, anyway?
And when do us normal folks get to be a part of that?
(Although I suppose "foreclosed families" doesn't have that same ring...)
Reality Moms
Common Sense Families
Tired of the Bullshit Dads
"Stop Crying" Dads
Stay at home Dads
Sensitive Males
Honor Students
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 17:39:54
Mondobubba on 09/09/2008 17:39:54
I will some day be scripting god.
I will some day be scripting god.
I will some day be scripting god.
I will some day be scripting god.
I will some day be scripting god.
I will some day be scripting god.
I will some day be scripting god.
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 17:55:35
livingonli on 09/09/2008 17:55:35
Ugh, I hate going out in this weather. I am all wet.
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 18:00:44
I suppose pitbulls (sweet loyal animals) should be insulted by the comparison to Palin...
BobR on 09/09/2008 18:00:44
Quote by Raine:
I am still angry at what she said, and how people thought it was so funny. She allowed herself, happily to be called a bitch.
This joke was not funny it was degrading to women... to strong women to woman who fight everyday... without being compared to a pitbull... which is a whole other situation.
I suppose pitbulls (sweet loyal animals) should be insulted by the comparison to Palin...
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 18:01:44
:rofl:
BobR on 09/09/2008 18:01:44
Quote by livingonli:
I am all wet.
:rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 18:09:53
Only you could make that sound dirty.
:collapses on fainting couch:
livingonli on 09/09/2008 18:09:53
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
I am all wet.
:rofl:
Only you could make that sound dirty.
:collapses on fainting couch:
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 18:10:46
BobR on 09/09/2008 18:10:46
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 19:13:11
livingonli on 09/09/2008 19:13:11
Did bloggie fall asleep?
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 19:18:28
livingonli on 09/09/2008 19:18:28
Come to think of it I need a nap.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/09/2008 19:34:03
m-hadley on 09/09/2008 19:34:03
Heya kids,
Here's some Tuesday afternoon humor:
I also wanted to let you all know that Barack Obama is scheduled to be on with David Letterman on Wednesday night :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance:
Here's some Tuesday afternoon humor:
Top Ten Suprises in Sarah Palin's RNC Speech
10. Opened with 5 minutes of, "John McCain is so old..." jokes
9. Rassled a walrus
8. Vowed to build a bridge to Margaritaville
7. Proposed offshore drilling in Mitt Romney's hair
6. Re-created dance from her appearance in Van Halen's "Hot For Teacher" video
5. Couldn't recall how many igloos she owns
4. Got a queer makeover from Senator Larry Craig
3. Though she's never been out of the country, boasted that she's been to Epcot twice
2. It lasted 35 minutes, which is about how long she's been governor
1. McCain walked out in pajamas yelling, "Wrap it up, honey!"
I also wanted to let you all know that Barack Obama is scheduled to be on with David Letterman on Wednesday night :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:dance:
Comment by m-hadley on 09/09/2008 19:40:50
m-hadley on 09/09/2008 19:40:50
Who is filling in for Randi? She is certainly a soft-spoken change from Ms. Rhodes :P
Cheers,
mfaye
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 20:13:36
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
Raine on 09/09/2008 20:13:36
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 20:14:06
about friggin' time... Now how about those committee seats?
BobR on 09/09/2008 20:14:06
Quote by Raine:
Poor Joe! HE can't play at any Reindeer Games.
about friggin' time... Now how about those committee seats?
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 20:24:03
I've seen rest stops that are bigger than this.
livingonli on 09/09/2008 20:24:03
Quote by Raine:
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
I've seen rest stops that are bigger than this.
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 20:27:06
livingonli on 09/09/2008 20:27:06
Poor Sarah Palin. She's so picked on. 
Comment by m-hadley on 09/09/2008 20:46:48
It looks like a Convenience Store 
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 09/09/2008 20:46:48
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
I've seen rest stops that are bigger than this.
It looks like a Convenience Store
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 20:55:17
Raine on 09/09/2008 20:55:17
Interesting, regarding the Book banning Question regarding Ms. Palin. The city does not deny the accusations that she was asking about this issue, they do however do a wpnderful job, representing the city nand their Library.
This is from the PDF I downloaded and copied into text. The city is trying to handle to media requests in an orderly and non chaotic way it seems.
CITY OF WASILLA
•Office of the Mayor•
290 East Herning Avenue • Wasilla • Alaska • 99654 ·7091
• Telephone 907·373·9055 • Fax 907·373·9096 •
We at the City of Wasilla have received many emails and requests for information about “banned or
censured” books at the Wasilla Library while former Mayor Palin was in office. We have no records of
any books being “banned or censured” ever.
Below is the policy to request reconsideration of library materials:
Reconsideration Requests of Library Materials
In accordance with the Wasilla Public Library Collection Development Policy, the library, “...strives to
achieve a balanced collection of materials in the major information categories, as well as a fiction
collection calculated to satisfy the widest possible variety of tastes. All viewpoints and opinions on
controversial subjects will be represented whenever possible... Wasilla Public Library recognizes the
right of every citizen to read and gather information, and his or her right to freedom from censorship by
other persons. Many books are controversial and any given item may offend some persons. However,
selections for this library will not be made on the basis of anticipated approval or disapproval, but solely
on the merits of the material in relation to the building of the collection and to serving the interests of all
readers. This library holds censorship to be a purely individual matter and declares that – while anyone is
free to reject for himself books and other materials of which he does not approve – he cannot exercise this
right of censorship to restrict the freedom of others.”
The Library conducts a systematic process whenever a Matanuska-Susitna Library Network cardholder
requests the reconsideration of an item in the library collection. The first step in the process is the patron
speaking with the library director, who listens to the patron concerns and explains how materials are
selected for the library’s collection. It is the policy of Wasilla Public Library that all challenged materials
remain in circulation until a final decision is reached and a challenged item may go through the
reconsideration process only once within a twelve month period.
Our records indicate the following actions requested by library patrons:
Year of Challenge Item Challenged Result
Pre-1986 Angel Dust Blues by Todd Strasser Creation of “Young Adult” section in
library and placement of item in
section
1986 Bumps in the Night by Harvey Allard Remained on shelf
1987 Heather Has Two Mommies Remained on shelf
By Leslea Newman
2005 America (The Book): A Citizen’s Guide
to Democracy Inaction by Jon Stewart Remained on shelf
2007 The Abduction by Mette Newth Remained on shelf
Thank you for your interest in the Wasilla Public Library policy.
Mayor Dianne M. Keller
This is from the PDF I downloaded and copied into text. The city is trying to handle to media requests in an orderly and non chaotic way it seems.
•Office of the Mayor•
290 East Herning Avenue • Wasilla • Alaska • 99654 ·7091
• Telephone 907·373·9055 • Fax 907·373·9096 •
We at the City of Wasilla have received many emails and requests for information about “banned or
censured” books at the Wasilla Library while former Mayor Palin was in office. We have no records of
any books being “banned or censured” ever.
Below is the policy to request reconsideration of library materials:
Reconsideration Requests of Library Materials
In accordance with the Wasilla Public Library Collection Development Policy, the library, “...strives to
achieve a balanced collection of materials in the major information categories, as well as a fiction
collection calculated to satisfy the widest possible variety of tastes. All viewpoints and opinions on
controversial subjects will be represented whenever possible... Wasilla Public Library recognizes the
right of every citizen to read and gather information, and his or her right to freedom from censorship by
other persons. Many books are controversial and any given item may offend some persons. However,
selections for this library will not be made on the basis of anticipated approval or disapproval, but solely
on the merits of the material in relation to the building of the collection and to serving the interests of all
readers. This library holds censorship to be a purely individual matter and declares that – while anyone is
free to reject for himself books and other materials of which he does not approve – he cannot exercise this
right of censorship to restrict the freedom of others.”
The Library conducts a systematic process whenever a Matanuska-Susitna Library Network cardholder
requests the reconsideration of an item in the library collection. The first step in the process is the patron
speaking with the library director, who listens to the patron concerns and explains how materials are
selected for the library’s collection. It is the policy of Wasilla Public Library that all challenged materials
remain in circulation until a final decision is reached and a challenged item may go through the
reconsideration process only once within a twelve month period.
Our records indicate the following actions requested by library patrons:
Year of Challenge Item Challenged Result
Pre-1986 Angel Dust Blues by Todd Strasser Creation of “Young Adult” section in
library and placement of item in
section
1986 Bumps in the Night by Harvey Allard Remained on shelf
1987 Heather Has Two Mommies Remained on shelf
By Leslea Newman
2005 America (The Book): A Citizen’s Guide
to Democracy Inaction by Jon Stewart Remained on shelf
2007 The Abduction by Mette Newth Remained on shelf
Thank you for your interest in the Wasilla Public Library policy.
Mayor Dianne M. Keller
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 20:57:21
Raine on 09/09/2008 20:57:21
So, I forgot to add... (sorry for the bad formatting) that If Sarah Palin had an issue with books, there WERE proper channels for her to go thru, as a Library Patron.
Instead... she chose to be a bully and misuse her power.
Instead... she chose to be a bully and misuse her power.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 21:00:31
Raine on 09/09/2008 21:00:31
As far as that City hall goes, I am not knocking small cities in America, but for the GOP to tout something like Wasilla as a big deal... They just do not seem to get it.
I feel a little badly for Wasilla right now. They are getting pounded by media requests. (oh, and they have listed ALL of the financial disclosures and budgets from Sarah time in office at that site I linked. They are really trying to accomodate the media.
I feel a little badly for Wasilla right now. They are getting pounded by media requests. (oh, and they have listed ALL of the financial disclosures and budgets from Sarah time in office at that site I linked. They are really trying to accomodate the media.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 21:11:09
Raine on 09/09/2008 21:11:09
No one knows more than the MCCAin Family about War.
With a little dash of 911™ to boot.
With a little dash of 911™ to boot.
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 21:26:08
:rolleyes2:
oowoowwwwowww... I think I pulled an eye muscle.
BobR on 09/09/2008 21:26:08
Quote by Raine:
No one knows more than the MCCAin Family about War.
With a little dash of 911™ to boot.
:rolleyes2:
oowoowwwwowww... I think I pulled an eye muscle.
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 21:34:43
BobR on 09/09/2008 21:34:43
More RedState update.... :rofl:
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 22:13:09
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 22:13:09
Well thank goodness for small favors.
I was able to record the stream on Green 960 today at home while I was at work, so after a few minutes of editing/filtering/encoding I'll have a day's worth of Frangela.
Wish I had thought of doing that Monday.
I was able to record the stream on Green 960 today at home while I was at work, so after a few minutes of editing/filtering/encoding I'll have a day's worth of Frangela.
Wish I had thought of doing that Monday.
Comment by Raine on 09/09/2008 22:17:41
Raine on 09/09/2008 22:17:41
Jeff Farius is ON fire today!!! HE is talking about Megan McCain (the Video I posted Below) And DAYUM... he is pissed!
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 22:26:11
livingonli on 09/09/2008 22:26:11
From the other side of the border;
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 22:26:29
BobR on 09/09/2008 22:26:29
Yet another RedState Update (note: some language not suitable for work):
Comment by BobR on 09/09/2008 22:29:29
BobR on 09/09/2008 22:29:29
And a short bonus RedState Update:
That was silly.... move along now.... :: Monty Python ::
That was silly.... move along now.... :: Monty Python ::
Comment by livingonli on 09/09/2008 22:39:56
livingonli on 09/09/2008 22:39:56
Paul Reickoff is on Rachel's radio show but it's a phoner. I wonder if Rachel will try to get him on the TV show on a regular basis since he has been on with Keith.
Comment by TriSec on 09/09/2008 23:26:44
TriSec on 09/09/2008 23:26:44
Topsfield, MA Town Hall:
A website I favor, Blue Mass Group, has been using this small town on the Northshore of Boston as a point of reference, as it is similar in population and budget to the City of Wasilla.
A website I favor, Blue Mass Group, has been using this small town on the Northshore of Boston as a point of reference, as it is similar in population and budget to the City of Wasilla.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 23:50:27
trojanrabbit on 09/09/2008 23:50:27
Whenever I feel a little down - I play this
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 00:04:05
Is that a drive through window?
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 00:04:05
Quote by Raine:
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
Is that a drive through window?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 00:18:29
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 00:18:29
I likee KO's new feature. :rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 00:35:37
I'll have two cheeseburgers, one large fry and a medium coke.
livingonli on 09/10/2008 00:35:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
Is that a drive through window?
I'll have two cheeseburgers, one large fry and a medium coke.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 00:44:39
livingonli on 09/10/2008 00:44:39
C'mon, just say that the Rethuglicans have no shame. Because by putting up that footage up, they didn't.
Comment by m-hadley on 09/10/2008 00:56:12
m-hadley on 09/10/2008 00:56:12
Heya 4Fers,
I'm a piece of burnt toast, having been at work since 7:30 this morning, (I only have about 8 minutes to go :P), but I just wanted bring to your attention an interesting piece on polling over at the Daily Kos. It may help ease your minds just a skosh - buh bye now, I'm outta here
Cheers,
mfaye
:fbump:
I'm a piece of burnt toast, having been at work since 7:30 this morning, (I only have about 8 minutes to go :P), but I just wanted bring to your attention an interesting piece on polling over at the Daily Kos. It may help ease your minds just a skosh - buh bye now, I'm outta here
Cheers,
mfaye
:fbump:
Comment by Shane-O on 09/10/2008 00:58:26
Is it too early for flapjacks?
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 00:58:26
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
Is that a drive through window?
I'll have two cheeseburgers, one large fry and a medium coke.
Is it too early for flapjacks?
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 01:03:00
livingonli on 09/10/2008 01:03:00
So it looks like each show is going to be a handoff.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 01:31:43
It is never too early for flapjacks. Mmmm flapjacks. Gaaahhh : drool:
Mondobubba on 09/10/2008 01:31:43
Quote by Shane-O:Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Executive Experience... remember that. ;)
Is that a drive through window?
I'll have two cheeseburgers, one large fry and a medium coke.
Is it too early for flapjacks?
It is never too early for flapjacks. Mmmm flapjacks. Gaaahhh : drool:
Comment by Shane-O on 09/10/2008 01:42:02
I was wondering if anyone would catch the movie reference... (not fair, since I watched it just a few days ago...)
Shane-O on 09/10/2008 01:42:02
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Shane-O:
Is it too early for flapjacks?
It is never too early for flapjacks. Mmmm flapjacks. Gaaahhh : drool:
I was wondering if anyone would catch the movie reference... (not fair, since I watched it just a few days ago...)
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 02:28:09
livingonli on 09/10/2008 02:28:09
Mike Malloy is pissed and he is worried that McCain will win this election thanks to the scum sucking Karl Rove.
Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2008 04:51:15
livingonli on 09/10/2008 04:51:15
And now for something completely different: