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If the President does it, it's legal.
Author: Raine    Date: 12/22/2008 13:32:48

Say what?
All of President Bush's actions during his years as a wartime leader were done with full legal authority, Vice President Dick Cheney said on Fox News Sunday.

Asked by Chris Wallace if it's legal when the president makes a decision to help the country when it's fighting a war, Cheney said, "As a general proposition, I'd say yes."
Interesting that we found this to be almost the same when Richard Nixon claimed: “when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.” We never truly got the chance to find out because he was pardoned without out ever being charged with a crime. Dick worked in that White House as well... strange coincidence.

The problem with this notion is not just the hubris, it is the notion that as long as a country is in a perpetual state of war, the Office of President of the United States is above the rule of law, and it is that very idea that Dick Cheney is proposing that is inherently UNconstitutional. The US of America was never meant to exist in a perpetual state of war in order to give the office of President unlimited power. Nowhere in the Constitution does it give the President the power to suspend the rule of law. You see, that was kinda the idea of the United States of America... rule of law, and the flaven... for the people by the people blah blah, blah...

Article Two of the United States Constitution, Section 4 states that "The President, Vice President, and all other civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate.[Source],

Not only is Tricky Dick II trying to rewrite history, he is explicitly redefining the Constitution. Not to split hairs here, but the United States is not at war. We are involved in a Military Action. Article 1, Section 8 gives congress the power to declare war. No such thing ever happened... so even if Tricky Dick V.2 was correct about the President being above the law during times of war... he would be WRONG again. I shouldn't be shocked, HE doesn't even know to what branch of the Government he is a part of. Funny that he would know what is legal and what isn't... (is Dick a constitutional lawyer like our President Elect?)

I know we have a few weeks left of these lying, thieving bastards, but it is things like this that just make my blood boil. It's insulting and traitorous in my opinion to treat the American people with such disdain that you would lie right to our faces.

I can handle controversy, I can handle disagreements, but the abject disdain for our Constitution that Dick Cheney has is - in my opinion - a high crime.

I take solace that we have an incoming administration that will actually respect the Constitution, and will try to do the right thing... I take little comfort (altho some smugness) in reminding people that thanks to *ush and Cheney and the people who enabled these GWOT policies to happen, Barack Obama has far more power than any other president in the history of our country. I hope all the people who rah-rahed *ush and Dick and the War on Terrah™ realize that they brought this on. If they thought NSA spying on Americans was GREAT for the past 8 years, they should be ready to LOVE it for the next 8 right?

Somehow I doubt it. Traitors rarely use logic, they just blindly follow the leader without thinking. *ush did for 8 years with Dick, as did 19% of America.

:peace: and
Raine


 

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Comment by Mondobubba on 12/22/2008 13:51:27
Morning. Class today & tomorrow. :wacko:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 13:53:36
Morning :hug:



I hope everyone got there Blogger Joe package over the weekend if not sooner

Comment by clintster on 12/22/2008 13:59:26
Mornin' all! Here's a little present from me to you...



Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:00:11
Great post Raine! Yes, Cheney and bush want a dictatorship. Well, they wanted one. I think the popularity of Obama threw them off there game, but I wouldn't put it past the neocons to set up a shadow gov't.





And on that note............ happy blogger joe day. I have my beautifully wrapped present by my side!

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:02:06
Quote by clintster:

Mornin' all! Here's a little present from me to you...





OMG! Too cute!! I laughed so hard I did a Steph snort ™



:rofl:



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:03:41
Good morning Mala. The Atlanta contingent has 2 blogger Joe Gifts under the tree. Speaking of blogger Joe...



They are finally getting hip to us Mala! Check out the buzzword on that list!


Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:04:43
So are we opening them this morning?



:D...

Comment by AuntAzalea on 12/22/2008 14:08:18
Morning everyone. I am lurking in plain sight today! Blogger Joe day - yeah!

Frangella- yeah!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:09:04
Quote by Raine:

Good morning Mala. The Atlanta contingent has 2 blogger Joe Gifts under the tree. Speaking of blogger Joe...



They are finally getting hip to us Mala! Check out the buzzword on that list!




And to think we started this, what, about 3-4 years ago?



Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:10:05
Quote by velveeta jones:

Great post Raine! Yes, Cheney and bush want a dictatorship. Well, they wanted one. I think the popularity of Obama threw them off there game, but I wouldn't put it past the neocons to set up a shadow gov't.





And on that note............ happy blogger joe day. I have my beautifully wrapped present by my side!




Has a second package arrived over the weekend?



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:10:51
Frangela wasn't Joking... that is the headline:::



Where'd the bailout money go? Shhhh, it's a secret



Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:11:05
Quote by Raine:

So are we opening them this morning?



:D...






yep - just trying to corral the cats

Comment by AuntAzalea on 12/22/2008 14:11:42
I also received a package!

Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:12:48
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Good morning Mala. The Atlanta contingent has 2 blogger Joe Gifts under the tree. Speaking of blogger Joe...



They are finally getting hip to us Mala! Check out the buzzword on that list!




And to think we started this, what, about 3-4 years ago?

I know!



Joe the Blogger has long been a friend to us!



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:17:39
I would buy ad space that said



"My Kid WILL PASS this test, right Teacher?:modbat:"


Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:17:42
Quote by AuntAzalea:

I also received a package!






I was worried there for a minute

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:23:49
Okay, I gotta go to work soon

Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:25:26
Well - we could open in two parts - still waiting to here from Tri, Random, Liv and Scoop - don't think they pop up till later in the AM

Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:26:04
Quote by wickedpam:

Well - we could open in two parts - still waiting to here from Tri, Random, Liv and Scoop - don't think they pop up till later in the AM


I think that is a good idea.

Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:28:24
What time do you have to go Velveeta?

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:28:49
Well, I want all the gang. :modbat:



Raine, go wake'm up!

Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:28:58
I bet Random is over at Momma blog...

Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:29:24
On my way! {phone}

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:29:39
Quote by Raine:

What time do you have to go Velveeta?




I will be leaving in 54 minutes! (there abouts)



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:30:39
:poke: has occured.

Comment by BobR on 12/22/2008 14:30:57
FWIW - I don't think Random got his Blogger Joe gift yet...

Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:31:13
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

What time do you have to go Velveeta?




I will be leaving in 54 minutes! (there abouts)





Eeek! maybe shoot for 10am?



Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:33:25
Quote by BobR:

FWIW - I don't think Random got his Blogger Joe gift yet...




we'll have to have a special Random christmas when he receives it :hug:



Comment by Scoopster on 12/22/2008 14:34:10
Morning folks! Now excuse me as I look for something to thaw out my frozen toes..

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:34:35
Quote by Raine:

On my way! {phone}


You crazy!



:lol:



Comment by BobR on 12/22/2008 14:35:07
I just pinged TriSec - he's at work and forgot to bring the gift with him (just like last year).

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:35:29
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

What time do you have to go Velveeta?




I will be leaving in 54 minutes! (there abouts)





Eeek! maybe shoot for 10am?



10am is good for me.



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:36:25
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning folks! Now excuse me as I look for something to thaw out my frozen toes..


Hot toddy for Scoop!!!

Comment by Random on 12/22/2008 14:36:30
Quote by Raine:

I bet Random is over at Momma blog...


Random's lurking this blog.

Comment by BobR on 12/22/2008 14:37:11
Quote by wickedpam:





we'll have to have a special Random christmas when he receives it :hug:



Random AND TriSec... ;)

Comment by Random on 12/22/2008 14:37:52
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

FWIW - I don't think Random got his Blogger Joe gift yet...




we'll have to have a special Random christmas when he receives it :hug:



that's just creepy...and i have no idea what FWIW

Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:39:12
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

FWIW - I don't think Random got his Blogger Joe gift yet...




we'll have to have a special Random christmas when he receives it :hug:



that's just creepy...and i have no idea what FWIW
It will be a Very Special Random christmas... on today's Afterschool Special... :lol:



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:40:11
LIV!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!


Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:40:58
Scoop have you recieved your Blogger Joe?

Comment by BobR on 12/22/2008 14:43:52
Quote by Random:



that's just creepy...and i have no idea what FWIW


For

What

It's

Worth

Comment by starling310 on 12/22/2008 14:44:58
Morning. Happy Blogger Joe day to all. It's always so fun to "watch" you guys open your gifts!

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:45:18
Ew! I'm giddy with excitment!





Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:45:54
Oops, where's Mondo to correct my spelling and grammer? :lol:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:46:04
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

What time do you have to go Velveeta?




I will be leaving in 54 minutes! (there abouts)





Eeek! maybe shoot for 10am?



10am is good for me.







10 it is then.



Then for those not here then we'll have a part 2 and then a part 3 and 4 when things move through the mail.



Comment by Random on 12/22/2008 14:47:14
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



that's just creepy...and i have no idea what FWIW


For

What

It's

Worth


And I've learned something knew.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:47:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by BobR:

FWIW - I don't think Random got his Blogger Joe gift yet...




we'll have to have a special Random christmas when he receives it :hug:



that's just creepy...and i have no idea what FWIW
It will be a Very Special Random christmas... on today's Afterschool Special... :lol:







:spit: I so realized what that sounded like after I posted :p



Comment by velveeta jones on 12/22/2008 14:48:11
Hey Star! Are you not doing the BJ? (Oh, perhaps I should spell that out......)





Comment by wickedpam on 12/22/2008 14:49:08
Quote by Random:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



that's just creepy...and i have no idea what FWIW


For

What

It's

Worth


And I've learned something knew.






you should check out urbandictionary.com there's lots of useless stuff to learn there :D



Comment by Raine on 12/22/2008 14:49:45
Quote by velveeta jones:

Hey Star! Are you not doing the BJ? (Oh, perhaps I should spell that out......)



:spit:



Comment by Scoopster on 12/22/2008 14:51:58
Quote by Raine:

Scoop have you recieved your Blogger Joe?


Oh yes I did..



Also I just got the office mail and it looks like I have a small problem here! Pam, check your email!!