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Author: TriSec    Date: 01/06/2009 11:27:56

Good Morning.

Today is our 2,120th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra...courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4221
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4082
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3760
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3362
Since Election (1/31/05): 2783

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 316
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 630
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 412
Contractor Deaths - Iraq: 445

We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:

$ 585, 898, 600, 000.00




So. We've all torn the page off the calendar, and most of us are looking at 2009 with a fair amount of hope and optimism. Unfortunately, for families with someone in the military, 2009 is the same as 2008, or 2007, or 2006, or....

Some families are adopting unusual coping mechanisms to deal with the endless cycle of separation and worry. There's an interesting story from yesterday's Globe about one family.




HAMLET, N.C.—When her son got his orders to head back to Iraq, Rosa Lamourt hatched her scheme to keep him stateside.

She didn't sleep much during the four months Spc. Jobel Barbosa spent in Iraq in 2004, driving a Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle with the North Carolina National Guard. The idea of her only son, born when she was just 15, spending an entire year overseas was too much.

So when Barbosa -- a 29-year-old single father -- asked his mother to care for his daughter Christian, as she'd done during his first deployment, she simply refused.

"I thought that if he didn't have anyone to watch (Christian), they wouldn't send him," Lamourt said recently. "Maybe they would say no."

Such wishful thinking often consumes the families of soldiers sent to war, whether they're full-time fighters or part-time warriors such as Barbosa and his fellow members of E Company, the engineer company of the 120th Combined Arms Battalion, 30th Heavy Brigade Combat Team. The unit from the tiny town of Hamlet, in southeastern North Carolina, left this weekend for four months of training ahead of a 12-month tour in Iraq.

As Lamourt's situation shows, reality inevitably sets in for the relatives. Her plan backfired when Barbosa's boss at the repair shop in Hamlet where he's a diesel mechanic volunteered to watch over Christian, a fourth-grader.

Lamourt quickly caved.

"There's no way I would let my baby live with a stranger," she said. "She's my first grandbaby."

And so, years after Jobel and his three sisters moved out, 9-year-old Christian moved in.

"It's like being a mom again," Lamourt said. "Imagine that."




There's a very interesting story out of Iraq this morning. Mr. Bush has made his entire "presidency" about bringing democracy to Iraq. But it turns out that nobody in Iraq really wanted it.


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Despite repeated warnings, U.S. officials blindly foisted a Western-style democracy on Iraq, helping plunge it into sectarian bloodshed and a political morass, a former U.S.-installed prime minister said on Monday.

"I told President Bush many times. I said we should not photocopy the model of the United States" in Iraq, Iyad Allawi, selected interim prime minister in 2004 by a council hand-picked by U.S. officials, said in an interview with Reuters.

"I said to (Bush and ex-British Prime Minister Tony Blair) categorically: 'Don't copy the Western model in Iraq; don't copy the Lebanese model; don't copy the Iranian model."

Allawi, a secular Shi'ite who led Iraq for nearly a year at a time when U.S. officials still held many levers of power, had a scathing assessment of Washington's management in close to six years since the U.S.-led invasion to oust Saddam Hussein.

Despite a sharp improvement from the horrific sectarian bloodshed of 2006 and 2007, Allawi described a country still held hostage to religious and ethnic rivalries, one in which ministries remain party fiefdoms and reconciliation is elusive.

"The decision to invade Iraq was a good decision, but unfortunately there have been grave mistakes that have been committed in parallel to liberation," he said, including the fateful U.S. decision in 2003 to purge government of members of Saddam's banned Baath party.

The instant unemployment of tens of thousands of Iraqis not only crippled the country's ability to govern itself but helped fuel a bloody insurgency.

By ignoring a strong tribal structure, interwoven by Sunnis, Shi'ites, Kurds and Turkmen, as they pieced together post-Saddam Iraq, he said U.S. officials allowed sectarian strife to grow.

"It was the wrong concept of doing things ... These are some of the real mistakes, grave mistakes, that have led the country to a great vacuum which we are suffering from after six years."



So whatever that nebulous "victory in Iraq" is....even the Iraqis are saying that democracy isn't it, and it's likely that 4,000 GIs have died in vain.

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 13:15:12
Morning :hug:

Comment by m-hadley on 01/06/2009 13:35:41
Mornin' Mala & other 4Fers :coffee:

Hope that today is a good one for you all :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :peace:

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 13:47:37
Why is the DC vital records department so not friendly and why is it they think I'm trying to lie to them about a name being misspelled?







Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 13:49:03
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Mala & other 4Fers :coffee:

Hope that today is a good one for you all :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :peace:






Hey Faye :hug:



I'm sure it will get better when I don't have to go through aggrivation to get something I think is simple fixed.



Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 13:50:39
Morning guys! :hug:



Mala would you like some hip waders to help you not get wet in all that bureaucracy? :D

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 13:54:14
Good morning!

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 13:54:55
Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 14:01:51
Morning, comrades!



TriSec loves to plan...I've been all over the Metro website this morning. Why, we leave for Washington in 11 days!





Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 14:04:58
So I go to work at my second job last night, and I'm shuffling through the newspaper left there by the 1st shift. I like to snag the section with the crossword, Jumble, and sudoku to work on when it's slow.



As is sometimes the case, someone on the 1st shift has done most of the puzzles already. I looked at the crossword and couldn't believe it. Take a look at the answer for 46 down (lower left) and then what is written in the margin next to it:



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/political/crossword-1.jpg




From what I know of the staff, the person that did that is the manager (second only to the owner), and she is VERY "Christian". She's also the one that was ecstatic that she got the NRA Christmas ornament that I posted in a prior blog post. She also listens to Neil Boortz, so I'm guessing she thought this was a hilarious joke.



Ha-ha! See how I'm laughing?? :rolleyes2:



I am guessing that this is just the tip of the iceberg for that group of right-wingers that want to "take that word back".



Jaysus...



Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 14:06:41
That reminds me I need to get my travel plans in order.. I'm probably gonna just leave after work the day before, stay in a hotel someplace along the way the night before, and head into DC proper early in the morning.



Or maybe I'll bring a tent & camp out on The Mall.. :lol:

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 14:07:58
Send 'em my way Bob..





Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 14:09:00
No dissin' on Tagalog, Mr. Ward....that's my mother tongue! :modbat:





Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 14:11:24
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning guys! :hug:



Mala would you like some hip waders to help you not get wet in all that bureaucracy? :D




Hip isn't going to cover it all might need a full on hazmat suit



Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 14:16:29
ugh! why is it when I do a google search on how to get an

"order to amend birth certificate" everything is transgender?

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 14:17:29
Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 14:21:27
Umm.. so Harry Reid is now capitulating to seat Burris (who despite being a pretty decent guy on most accounts is really in a bad position with this appointment from Blago), but caving to demands that Al Franken (who is now OFFICIALLY certified as a Senator) not be seated.



Can we PLEASE get him out of the Majority Leader position?! NOW?!

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:22:33
Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:23:47
Quote by Scoopster:

Umm.. so Harry Reid is now capitulating to seat Burris (who despite being a pretty decent guy on most accounts is really in a bad position with this appointment from Blago), but caving to demands that Al Franken (who is now OFFICIALLY certified as a Senator) not be seated.



Can we PLEASE get him out of the Majority Leader position?! NOW?!


I'm Shocked I tell you. shocked. <_<

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:24:32
Quote by wickedpam:

ugh! why is it when I do a google search on how to get an

"order to amend birth certificate" everything is transgender?


Mala -- have you gone to the website of the state you were born in?

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:28:47


Ok, that scares me.



What does that make of the huge sludge spill a few weeks ago in Tennessee?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 14:31:16
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ugh! why is it when I do a google search on how to get an

"order to amend birth certificate" everything is transgender?


Mala -- have you gone to the website of the state you were born in?




wasn't born in a state - was born in DC



the Vitial records site and person on the phone not really helpful - have to get either my elementary school records IF they spelled my name right from PA or I have to get a court order from VA to make DC amend/correct my birth certificate.



All of this over 1 letter wrong. and so I can get a passport for a possible trip in March



Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 14:32:28
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Umm.. so Harry Reid is now capitulating to seat Burris (who despite being a pretty decent guy on most accounts is really in a bad position with this appointment from Blago), but caving to demands that Al Franken (who is now OFFICIALLY certified as a Senator) not be seated.



Can we PLEASE get him out of the Majority Leader position?! NOW?!


I'm Shocked I tell you. shocked. <_<






I don't get why this man only stands up to damage his own party



Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 14:32:29
Quote by Raine:



Ok, that scares me.



What does that make of the huge sludge spill a few weeks ago in Tennessee?


It makes most of the TVA watershed area as hot as the area surrounding Chernobyl.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:34:28
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ugh! why is it when I do a google search on how to get an

"order to amend birth certificate" everything is transgender?


Mala -- have you gone to the website of the state you were born in?




wasn't born in a state - was born in DC



the Vitial records site and person on the phone not really helpful - have to get either my elementary school records IF they spelled my name right from PA or I have to get a court order from VA to make DC amend/correct my birth certificate.



All of this over 1 letter wrong. and so I can get a passport for a possible trip in March

It's amazing to me the stupidity.



Guh. When I lost my Birth Certificate, it was actually easier for me to have my dad get a copy for me than it would have been for me to get a a copy.



Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:35:13
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:



Ok, that scares me.



What does that make of the huge sludge spill a few weeks ago in Tennessee?


It makes most of the TVA watershed area as hot as the area surrounding Chernobyl.
Thank GOD the media is ALL over that story...



Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:36:00
Levi Quit his Job? Well looky looky!

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:37:17
Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 14:38:16
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

ugh! why is it when I do a google search on how to get an

"order to amend birth certificate" everything is transgender?


Mala -- have you gone to the website of the state you were born in?




wasn't born in a state - was born in DC



the Vitial records site and person on the phone not really helpful - have to get either my elementary school records IF they spelled my name right from PA or I have to get a court order from VA to make DC amend/correct my birth certificate.



All of this over 1 letter wrong. and so I can get a passport for a possible trip in March

It's amazing to me the stupidity.



Guh. When I lost my Birth Certificate, it was actually easier for me to have my dad get a copy for me than it would have been for me to get a a copy.









Thing was this wasn't a big deal until they started demanding all records match to the T. So because someone spelled it pamEla instead of what my mom wanted pamAla and all this new laws I have do all this

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:55:40
:thud:



bAnn Coulter is really REALLY back. She was pleasently silent during the election.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 14:57:07
Quote by wickedpam:

Thing was this wasn't a big deal until they started demanding all records match to the T. So because someone spelled it pamEla instead of what my mom wanted pamAla and all this new laws I have do all this
You mean to an *E*, duncha?



Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 15:00:42
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Thing was this wasn't a big deal until they started demanding all records match to the T. So because someone spelled it pamEla instead of what my mom wanted pamAla and all this new laws I have do all this
You mean to an *E*, duncha?





no I mean it to be an "A" on my birth ceritficate like it is on my ss card and my drivers license. Its how my name is supposed to be spelled.



The "e" is traditional but my wanted it a little different



Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:05:08
I am disgusted with Harry Reid. Seriously disgusted.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:06:40
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Thing was this wasn't a big deal until they started demanding all records match to the T. So because someone spelled it pamEla instead of what my mom wanted pamAla and all this new laws I have do all this
You mean to an *E*, duncha?





no I mean it to be an "A" on my birth ceritficate like it is on my ss card and my drivers license. Its how my name is supposed to be spelled.



The "e" is traditional but my wanted it a little different

I know, I was playing with you. --- you see you said T and... oh never mind... that was a bad joke on my part to begin with.



Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 15:09:36
Quote by Scoopster:

Umm.. so Harry Reid is now capitulating to seat Burris (who despite being a pretty decent guy on most accounts is really in a bad position with this appointment from Blago), but caving to demands that Al Franken (who is now OFFICIALLY certified as a Senator) not be seated.



Can we PLEASE get him out of the Majority Leader position?! NOW?!


As I understand it (according to NPR), even if Al Franken is declared the winner by the SOS of MN, the certificate needs to be signed by someone in the Gov's office, and they've said they won't sign it if there are court actions in process, which there are.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/06/2009 15:10:23
Good morning, bloggers!! Excellent post, TriSec!!



So, will Bill O'Reilly and demAnn Coulter have a little cheese to go with their whine?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/06/2009 15:14:13
Toppless coffee shop waitresses? I suppose that would even get Bob Dole up in the morning! Of course, if Fox News is on the television, that might be too many boobs at the same time.

Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 15:17:59
Scoop, you're coming to DC too?



I declared myself in charge of smokes earlier (although we won't be able to get to Montreal for the *really* good stuff). You want I should bring you a seegar too?



I've heard from those in the know that many of the Domenicans are superior to the legacy Cuban brands these days, anyway.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 15:19:35
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Thing was this wasn't a big deal until they started demanding all records match to the T. So because someone spelled it pamEla instead of what my mom wanted pamAla and all this new laws I have do all this
You mean to an *E*, duncha?





no I mean it to be an "A" on my birth ceritficate like it is on my ss card and my drivers license. Its how my name is supposed to be spelled.



The "e" is traditional but my wanted it a little different

I know, I was playing with you. --- you see you said T and... oh never mind... that was a bad joke on my part to begin with.





DOH! :hug:



I'm so entrenched in the red tape I didn't even realize!



Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 15:19:41
Quote by Raine:

I am disgusted with Harry Reid. Seriously disgusted.




Can somebody challenge him? Take a look at Sal DiMasi up here in Massachusetts...there's a power struggle going on in the State House as we speak.



Sal is a corrupt little bastard that deserves to be expelled, though.







Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 15:21:01
Good morning everyone.



It looks like my stomach feels better today so hopefully got into me yesterday was a 24-hour thing.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:21:24
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Scoopster:

Umm.. so Harry Reid is now capitulating to seat Burris (who despite being a pretty decent guy on most accounts is really in a bad position with this appointment from Blago), but caving to demands that Al Franken (who is now OFFICIALLY certified as a Senator) not be seated.



Can we PLEASE get him out of the Majority Leader position?! NOW?!


As I understand it (according to NPR), even if Al Franken is declared the winner by the SOS of MN, the certificate needs to be signed by someone in the Gov's office, and they've said they won't sign it if there are court actions in process, which there are.




I love how they are all deciding to simply not follow the law becuase Blago may have broken the law... the reality is that Blago is supposed to BY LAW appoint a senator. How hard is that for everyone to understand?







Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:24:21
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:

I am disgusted with Harry Reid. Seriously disgusted.




Can somebody challenge him? Take a look at Sal DiMasi up here in Massachusetts...there's a power struggle going on in the State House as we speak.



Sal is a corrupt little bastard that deserves to be expelled, though.





He was just revoted as speaker back in November. There really isn't enough (or any actually) opposition to him by the senate Dems. The Senate likes him.



It seems as tho the senate PREFERS to be led by a spineless puss.



Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 15:25:04
Oh, lord! NovaM is playing those old PSAs again. I have the "Love Warlus" singing about breast feeding right now!



:thud:





Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 15:28:22
I wish there would be an effort to remove Harry Reid as Majority Leader. He both sucks and blows.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:38:03
I think I am gonna turn on the TV. I want to see the crazy mayhem in the Senate.

Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 15:42:16
Voting! GO WONKETTE!

Why you should vote for Wonkette over...well Confluence: An Interview with Harriet Christian, NY Senate Seat Contender.



First question: What made you decide to vie for Senator Clinton’s seat? Was it 9/11?

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 15:45:09
Quote by TriSec:

Scoop, you're coming to DC too?



I declared myself in charge of smokes earlier (although we won't be able to get to Montreal for the *really* good stuff). You want I should bring you a seegar too?



I've heard from those in the know that many of the Domenicans are superior to the legacy Cuban brands these days, anyway.


Well I would very much like to.. I can get the day off, I have the money for the trip, I just didn't have any luck with getting a hotel room in time. So I figure I'll do a day trip kinda thing.



And hmmm.. I don't fancy myself much of a cigar chomper - I'm more into kretek (clove-infused) cigarrettes and sin semilla (hehe). Tho I heard someone makes a kretek cigar...

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:51:07
It's a mad house outside the Senate right now.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 15:53:18
Does Momma EVER peruse the internets?

Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 15:58:35
Quote by Raine:

Does Momma EVER peruse the internets?


Momma can't find the tubes.

Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 16:00:46
Quote by Raine:

Does Momma EVER peruse the internets?


She does have a computer but she seems to be intimidated by the technology. I guess she prefers to spend her time watching TV and playing with the dogs.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/06/2009 16:02:54
Quote by livingonli:

I wish there would be an effort to remove Harry Reid as Majority Leader. He both sucks and blows.




Well, if jellyfish could lobby and vote they would probably declare Reid as a disgrace to invertebrates everywhere.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/06/2009 16:21:31
Hello?



Bueller?



Bueller?



Bueller?





Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 16:23:32
Quote by Will in Phoenix:

Hello?



Bueller?



Bueller?



Bueller?







I am just trying to plan a few things for our trip.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 16:29:28
Malmo Blue!!!

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 16:29:28
Malmo Blue!!!

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 16:40:51
Quote by Will in Phoenix:

Hello?



Bueller?



Bueller?



Bueller?





I'm deep in the salt mines, and the batteries in my headlamp are getting weak...

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 16:41:06
Malmo!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 16:42:20
Has anyone ever noticed that the acronym for the Department of Heath is DOH

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 16:43:43
Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 16:49:10
Quote by Scoopster:

WHOA.. THIS IS KEWL CHIT




fun site - I want

this

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 16:49:33
MNRN!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 16:51:11


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 16:53:14






Morning. Study Bunkering again today.



Two words about Palin using her influence to get the baby daddy the job:



Bull and shit! Just the same way you didn't :cough:liar!:cough: have the state police sit on Momma Johnston's arrest until after the election? (Number two worst persons from last night)

Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 16:55:06
Quote by wickedpam:

MNRN!


I missed it. Did she call in?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/06/2009 16:56:14
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

MNRN!


I missed it. Did she call in?




with fun facts tis all



Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 16:58:43
Quote by Scoopster:

WHOA.. THIS IS KEWL CHIT


that is aMAZing... wow!

Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 17:04:40
Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:06:31




Not completly work safe...

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 17:18:50
Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 17:23:27
Norm Coleman's scheduled a press conference for 3PM Central..



CONCESSION TIME!

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:23:29
Quote by Scoopster:

Interesting.. looks like that retroactive telecom immunity is unconstitutional!



More egg for Feinstein & Rockefeller's faces.


That would explain why those 2 are vocally expressing displeasure about Panetta...

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:24:18
Thom had bAnn Coulter scheduled?



I am glad that he also had it bAnned.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:25:09
Quote by Scoopster:

Norm Coleman's scheduled a press conference for 3PM Central..



CONCESSION TIME!




Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:26:27
Joe Biden was just sworn in as a senator! How interesting is that?

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:26:52
Heya Scoop-- where did you get that info about coleman?

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 17:27:42
Quote by Scoopster:

Norm Coleman's scheduled a press conference for 3PM Central..



CONCESSION TIME!


I'll believe THAT when I see it...

Comment by starling310 on 01/06/2009 17:30:19
<---- Thom!

Comment by starling310 on 01/06/2009 17:35:48
<---- Thom! Again!



Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 17:35:58
Quote by Raine:

Joe Biden was just sworn in as a senator! How interesting is that?


It strange that he didn't resign his seat although he will have to relinquish it on January 20.

Comment by starling310 on 01/06/2009 17:37:20


THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM! THOM!



I love that people are starting to call Harry Reid out on being the little B*TCH that he is. I have NEVER liked Reid as the Senate leader! NEVER!

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:38:31
THANK YOU THOM!!!!



:grumble: Harry Reid....

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:39:26
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Joe Biden was just sworn in as a senator! How interesting is that?


It strange that he didn't resign his seat although he will have to relinquish it on January 20.
He has a few votes perhaps to cast... I think it is great.



Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 17:43:10
This is the article all the Rwingnuts are talking about... Notice, there isn't even a byline with it. It CLEARLY says opinion!!!



asshatopians

Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 17:54:44
Random shall use smote button on Senator Reid.

oh...



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 17:55:49
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:



Ok, that scares me.



What does that make of the huge sludge spill a few weeks ago in Tennessee?


It makes most of the TVA watershed area as hot as the area surrounding Chernobyl.
Thank GOD the media is ALL over that story...





I hate to be snotty, but did y'all read the whole article? I mean beyond the sexy/scary headline. According to the article the maximum exposure on average, per person 1.9 milirems/year and this is from the original study done 30 years ago. It also goes onto say that the annual expose to radioactivity from fly ash is .10 of the annual total of backround radiation exposure, which is about 200-300 milirems a year.



What this article is saying is coal fired power plants release more radioactive waste into the environment that a than a well run nuclear plant. The amount of radiation released by both is well below the amount of backround exposure that everybody gets in a year.



So, Scoop your contention that the TVA region is hotter than the area around Chernybol is incorrect. The reason the press is not covering this is because there is no story. What is far more troubling about coal fired plants is amount of mercury, lead, cadmium and other heavy metals that they spew into the environment, these are far more toxic to you than the piss-ant amount of radiation that is produced.



How are you wondering did I, Mondo gain such an in depth knowledge of issue involving radiation? I read a lot. I mean a lot and not just stuff on the Internets, but books. Poppa Mondo had quite the reference collection from his time with the Atomic Energy Commission. Lots of nifty books with color pictures of all kinds of reactors and charts about radiation exposure and emitter type (alpha, beta, gama, x-ray).





Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 17:59:15
Quote by Raine:

This is the article all the Rwingnuts are talking about... Notice, there isn't even a byline with it. It CLEARLY says opinion!!!



asshatopians


Well we already know the WSJ Editorial Page is dominated by asshat wingnuts and that was even before Murdoch bought it and turned it into a rag.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 18:12:10
Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 18:19:30
Oof Mondo you done gave me quite a wooshing there!

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 18:36:13
Quote by Scoopster:

Oof Mondo you done gave me quite a wooshing there!




No permanent damage I hope, Scoop. I am a radiation geek, what can I say.

Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 18:38:19
Mondo having a little trouble with the Berthold Rays...



http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content07/audeo-pike.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 18:43:57
Quote by Scoopster:

LOL!




"Everything is just a few hundred clicks away!" :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 18:46:38
Quote by Scoopster:

LOL!
It took me a while to find it... but that satire is closer to truth than not!





Check out the iTouch

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 18:51:02
Quote by Scoopster:

LOL!


:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 18:58:26


The Beginning of Winning...

Yesterday we got a clear vision of the future of the Republican Party as six candidates debated to become the next chairman of the Republican National Committee. Who will pick up and bravely carry the beleaguered party forth into the future and beyond? More importantly, who loves Ronald Reagan the most? The answer... in today's episode of TPMtv.




I swear this reminds me of a bunch pf people running for high school class president!!!



Facebook, twitter and Guns. THAT is the face of the GOP. Oh and sharecroppers... and pro life -- and Ron Paul...

Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 19:27:59
Why Random doesn't like to fly.

The idiot passangers, and the idiot security personel.



Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 19:30:56


:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 19:34:50
Quote by Random:

Why Random doesn't like to fly.

The idiot passangers, and the idiot security personel.



I hope and pray that this stupidity ends after a new president takes office.

Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 19:40:44
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Why Random doesn't like to fly.

The idiot passangers, and the idiot security personel.



I hope and pray that this stupidity ends after a new president takes office.


Random just wishes people were smart enough to realize that other people are stupid.

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 19:44:47
oh man - Al Franken as Mick... too funny!



and that woman's hair - yikes!!

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 19:51:51
Quote by Raine:







I swear this reminds me of a bunch pf people running for high school class president!!!



Facebook, twitter and Guns. THAT is the face of the GOP. Oh and sharecroppers... and pro life -- and Ron Paul...


I heard that if a Republican looks in the mirror and says "Ronald Reagan" 3 times, Reagan suddenly appears... :nervous:



and then falls asleep... :sleeping:



Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 19:58:05
Quote by BobR:



I heard that if a Republican looks in the mirror and says "Ronald Reagan" 3 times, Reagan suddenly appears... :nervous:



and then falls asleep... :sleeping:




http://www.zombiereagan.com/street/portrait.jpg


Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 20:00:05
Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 20:00:16
Starting today, Maron v. Seder is now The BreakRoon Live since they will be doing the show from the Break Room at Air America.

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 20:02:50


Considering how cold it looks, I bet he was extra embarrassed... :P

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 20:10:38
Randi is a repeat AGAIN?

Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 20:12:27
Quote by Raine:

Randi is a repeat AGAIN?


She's supposed to be back tomorrow. Mike Malloy is supposed to be back tonight.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 20:13:57
Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 20:18:25
I rather feel like going off on a tangent.



But I'm being obtuse.





Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 20:21:55
ok,,, the break room is just a little wacky.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 20:29:50
Makes sense. Everyoen knows him and he seems like a decent enough guy.



Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 20:33:41
But did you hear Marc's comments about bAnn Coulter? When Republicans are called on their bullshit, it's amazing how fast they pull out the persecuted victim card.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 20:49:28
Quote by Raine:

Makes sense. Everyoen knows him and he seems like a decent enough guy.





Just as long as he doesn't talk about masturbation being a good thing he's in like Flint.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 20:52:52
Quote by BobR:



Considering how cold it looks, I bet he was extra embarrassed... :P




:Costanza: THERE WAS SHRINKAGE!

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 20:56:20
MSNBC is reporting that Jeb Bush is NOT running for the Florida Senate seat.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/06/2009 20:58:35
Oh well.. so much for hopes for a quick end to this mess. Norm Coleman is filing an election contest. Oh yah I didn't reply to it earlier - I got the info about the presser off the usual place.



BTW you can watch it here - TheUptake.org

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 21:02:13
Quote by Raine:

MSNBC is reporting that Jeb Bush is NOT running for the Florida Senate seat.






Good, I will unclench my scphincter.

Comment by livingonli on 01/06/2009 21:02:50
Time to go head off to the salt mine. The cloud cover already makes it dark here. I'm not looking forward to possibly driving home in the freezing rain tonight.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 21:03:47
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/06/2009 21:07:32
Off to the gym. No, my New Year's resolution was not to get in better shape, it was not piss money away. I'm paying for the membership, so I should use it right? Otherwise I am what, yes that's right, pissing money away.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 21:08:30
Quote by Mondobubba:

Snack Food Chinese Zodiac.



I am a Cola.


:spit:" cause when I think of bubbly -- you come to mind mondo!!!



I am donut...
Your ideal job: Corrections officer.




Plus, I am never to marry a twinkie.

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 21:12:05
Quote by Raine:





Plus, I am never to marry a twinkie.


I am a cola as well, married to a donut. There's a dirty joke in there somewhere... :P

Comment by TriSec on 01/06/2009 21:26:11


Bridge Mix - You are an old standby--reliable and comforting. People don't necessarily seek you out, but you are always welcome at parties. Your one weakness is a tendency to try to be all things to all people. Your ideal job: Politician. Marry Bubblegum or a Fried Fruit Pie, but never a Ding-Dong.





Well, what do you know? This is about the only zodiac thingy that tells me to marry Mrs. TriSec (fried fruit pie)...everything else tells us we're violently incompatible. But we knew that going in.





Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 21:37:28
Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 21:37:58
Quote by Mondobubba:

Snack Food Chinese Zodiac.



I am a Cola.


O.O Random is scared of his...

Gummi - "Resilient" and "colorful" are the two words that best describe you. You seem simple, but your true nature is a profound mystery. Break free of your tendency to stick close to others like you--strike out on your own more. Your ideal job: Genetic counselor. Marry a Donut or Twinkie, but never Bubblegum.

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 21:42:26
Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 21:42:59
Quote by BobR:

Must... have...


Oh, and by the way, if you've got a smug bastard in your office named Lumberg,


That line kind of killed it for me...

Comment by BobR on 01/06/2009 22:18:54
Quote by Random:



That line kind of killed it for me...


Did Random just reveal his last name??

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 22:20:30
The Lion...



http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07osbYY8SIcMx/610x.jpg


Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 22:22:35
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



That line kind of killed it for me...


Did Random just reveal his last name??


Oh no. Just felt that it killed the joke. to reference an obvious character. Would have been better to have said "Storage room B" then to out Lumberg by name.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 22:50:10
I do believe the word of the month is Taint.

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 22:52:21
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



That line kind of killed it for me...


Did Random just reveal his last name??


:rofl:



Random Lumberg!!



When this blog burns down, I fully expect him to be sitting on a beach sipping a fru fru cocktail and gleefully clutching his smote button...

Comment by Raine on 01/06/2009 22:55:46
ook... I know I got characters confused... I still will keep the image with me forever...

Comment by Random on 01/06/2009 23:16:14
Quote by Raine:

ook... I know I got characters confused... I still will keep the image with me forever...


Random's too lazy to burn anything down...

And i'm surprised you didn't comment on Random being a Gummi

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/07/2009 00:46:58
Cheese puff married to a donut.



With an Oreo and a donut for pets.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/07/2009 00:56:37
Getting back to rant about radiation from earlier today I give this quote from the seminal classic "Repo Man"



J. Frank Parnell: Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/07/2009 00:58:29
Quote by BobR:

Must... have...






:smug: I, Mondo have a red Swingline stapler. No, you may not borrow it Bob.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/07/2009 00:59:45
Chris Matthews on Jeb Bush blah blah...No Chris he is doughy pant-load who has fucked this state up six ways from Sunday.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/07/2009 01:07:59
DiFi for Diane Feinstein. Sounds too much like WiFI. No where as cool as B Box!

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/07/2009 03:22:09
I am watching Frontline. I am getting angry about Katrina and NoLa all over again. The Old Man and The Storm