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Author: BobR    Date: 09/23/2009 12:37:16

Anyone who's seen the news lately has likely heard the story and seen some of the footage - Atlanta is flooded. It seems impossible. Atlanta is not in really in an area anyone would consider a flood plain. There is only one major river that flows through the city, and it's not even big enough to be navigable for shipping. There weren't any hurricanes coming ashore. So what happened?... and what is the state leadership doing?

Like several states in the southeast, Georgia is mostly clay. The dirt here (if you want to call it that) is bright reddish orange, very fine, and packs densely. It it can be molded into shapes and fired in a kiln to make pottery. As such, it does not absorb or leach water very well. So when the low pressure system stalled, the rains came... and didn't stop.... for days. The ground absorbed what it could, and the rest flowed over the ground and into streams, seeking lower ground.

Streams swelled their banks and the water kept rising. The news coverage described the devastation. To get a feel for how bad it was, there are some videos here and here. Having seen the videos, it doesn't come anywhere close to seeing it with your own eyes. For a side by side comparison, here is an area that is about 100 yds from the banks of stream during the flooding and a day later after waters receded:

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs276.snc1/10324_1244170026368_1292899656_30734704_502438_n.jpg


http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs276.snc1/10324_1244170066369_1292899656_30734705_3969681_n.jpg


I also posted my own personal video here. That stream is normally 3-4 feet wide and 20 feet lower...

One would hope the Governor would be on top of this, providing leadership and getting in front of a problem that we were warned late last week would be occuring. Instead, we got a scolding. We were told to stay off the roads and not drive through the water. In a situation sadly similar to Bush/Katrina, there were very few shelters set up, and plans for helping those who had to be evacuated weren't really set into motion until today, two days after the waters rose. Governor Sonny Perdue claimed he really didn't get a feel for the extent of the devastation until he toured the area by helicopter (what? - he managed to miss the non-stop coverage on TV?). It moved him to ask the Federal government for:
$16 million dollars.

We have 17 counties in various states of destruction, and he asks for $16M?? The state insurance commissioner stated he believed that there will be $250M in damages, which seems woefully low as well. There are entire neighborhoods under water, and many of those homes will require a half million each for repairs/replacement. Very few (if any) of these people have flood insurance. Who would think to get it when the closest water is a tiny stream a quarter mile away? There are bridges out, and roads washed away. Those will require emergency funds to repair. The insurance commissioner's solution to those whose homes were flooded? Bleach and a spray bottle. I kid you not. He also absolved himself and the state of all responsibility for the general lack of flood insurance among the residents by saying that it was the federal government's jurisdiction.

One school in Cobb County (Clarkdale) is completely flooded, and is likely a total loss. They DO have flood insurance. However, the deductible is one million dollars. For something like a school, that doesn't seem like a lot, except that the county - home to some of Atlanta's richest residents - is millions of dollars in debt. Why? The county is also a Republican stronghold, home to the "cut my taxes" crowd. Do the math; you get what you pay for.

Even before the flood, another problem for the Atlanta area has been the aging sewage system. When it was originally built (when the city was much smaller), there didn't seem to be a problem with having the street storm drains feed into the same lines as the sewers. With growth, however, the system is easily overtaxed. There have been numerous stories over the years of heavy rains causing the manholes to become fecal fountains in low lying areas. Again - low taxes and tax breaks to encourage growth have resulted in continuing problems with the sewer system.

Naturally, with this kind of flooding, you can assume there will be unpleasant things in the flood waters. To make matters MUCH worse, the city's sewage treatment plant is flooded and nonoperational. This means that over 100 million gallons of raw sewage is being dumped into the Chattahoochee river on a daily basis, for at least the next several days. This bio-hazard flood will be paying a visit to the riverbanks along GA and AL all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. With all of floodwaters seeking lower ground, it's pretty much a given that there will be flooding downstream in the next couple days, and that runoff will be disgusting.

It was only two years ago that GA was 60 days away from the taps running dry. Sonny Perdue's answer to the problem was to stage a prayer vigil on the state capital steps. Today we have the opposite problem, and the governor's lack of any substantial leadership is once again glaring. Between these two crises, we've had a Republican state congress that has continued to roll back taxes and state programs, preventing many of the infrastructure fixes that might've helped keep matters from getting worse.

I'd like to think that these events might open the eyes of the voters next election. I doubt it. I shudder to think what the state of the state will be like in a few more years. I hope I'm not here to find out.

 

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Comment by wickedpam on 09/23/2009 13:36:54
Morning



Glad you guys are safe didn't want lose my friends to merpeople thanks to sped up evolution from the leaking of syrup from the Coca Cola bottling plant.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/23/2009 13:50:02
Morning all.. Fantastic post today Bobber. You have to wonder how many times these inept elected officials are going to fool the voters down in the South with their crappy neocon rhetoric.

Comment by BobR on 09/23/2009 13:57:58
I seem to recall the right-wing going ballistic over the Dixie Chicks criticizing the president "while on foreign soil"

Comment by starling310 on 09/23/2009 13:59:03
Starling's prediction : The Republicans will want Health Care reform once they have a Republican back in the White House.





Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 13:59:26
Good Morning. Sad state of affairs Georgia is.

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 14:16:21
Quote by starling310:

Starling's prediction : The Republicans will want Health Care reform once they have a Republican back in the White House.



Hey stranger! I think you are sadly correct. Gah!



Comment by Scoopster on 09/23/2009 14:18:04
GOP scumbags in the Senate go public against net neutrality



CA ballot initiative to fully legalize marijuana on the ballot in 2010



And one more for ya.. American ambassadorial delegates walk out of Palin's Hong Kong speech in disgust. Now, remember a few years back when the Dixie Chicks criticized the sitting President on foreign soil and they were roundly chastised for it? Where are those same people with their outrage now?

Comment by BobR on 09/23/2009 14:22:01
Quote by Scoopster:

And one more for ya.. American ambassadorial delegates walk out of Palin's Hong Kong speech in disgust. Now, remember a few years back when the Dixie Chicks criticized the sitting President on foreign soil and they were roundly chastised for it? Where are those same people with their outrage now?


great minds think alike...

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 14:23:21
Like teabagging and the SAC Act, "See You at the Pole" is another thing conservatives might want to think about renaming ...

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 14:26:18
Oh I am really grossed out now -- consentual?

Comment by BobR on 09/23/2009 14:26:36
Quote by Raine:

Like teabagging and the SAC Act, "See You at the Pole" is another thing conservatives might want to think about renaming ...


I wonder what Dick Armey thinks about this...

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 14:36:55
Hmmm Are they really argiung for the right to not have Health care?





Frucking idiots.

Comment by livingonli on 09/23/2009 14:47:21
Good morning everyone.





It's amazing that people are stupid enough to vote for these clowns in the GOP considering how they continue to ignore the needs of people after natural disasters. And how many of these tragedies are because of the effects of global warming which they continue to deny?

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 14:53:56




Dip and Guns -- that is so gay. and that isn't even the worse of this.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/23/2009 15:46:33
Ever have one of those days when you have no focus on anything?

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 15:55:57
Quote by wickedpam:

Ever have one of those days when you have no focus on anything?
all the time... What was I doing?



Comment by wickedpam on 09/23/2009 15:58:06
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Ever have one of those days when you have no focus on anything?
all the time... What was I doing?









Comment by livingonli on 09/23/2009 15:59:15
That stuff about Mackenzie Phillips is the creepiest kind of stuff I have ever heard about a father-daughter relationship that I have ever heard.

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 17:07:00
Guh... Ralph Nader.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/23/2009 17:08:42
Hey Bob. The GA insurance commissioner did a reverse Katrina (Fed please, not our problem)? Wow! In his defense (sorta), flood insurance is one of those doesn't work, why are we spending money on a corrupt system, programs that works. In the ongoing debate between who has the worse governance, Georgia or Florida, It is right now Georgia, by about a half length. Florida is coming up fast on the inside though with this: A proposed ammendment to the state constitution to ban birth control.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/23/2009 17:09:25
Quote by Raine:

Guh... Ralph Nader.




Hey! Don't talk about my old boss that way!

Comment by wickedpam on 09/23/2009 17:18:11
Quote by Raine:

Guh... Ralph Nader.






my sentiments exactly

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/23/2009 17:35:02
Comment by livingonli on 09/23/2009 17:51:52
Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey Bob. The GA insurance commissioner did a reverse Katrina (Fed please, not our problem)? Wow! In his defense (sorta), flood insurance is one of those doesn't work, why are we spending money on a corrupt system, programs that works. In the ongoing debate between who has the worse governance, Georgia or Florida, It is right now Georgia, by about a half length. Florida is coming up fast on the inside though with this: A proposed ammendment to the state constitution to ban birth control.


The fundies really have taken over the asylum.. At least I know why Orlando has 3 Christian TV stations.

Comment by m-hadley on 09/23/2009 18:23:22
Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey Bob. The GA insurance commissioner did a reverse Katrina (Fed please, not our problem)? Wow! In his defense (sorta), flood insurance is one of those doesn't work, why are we spending money on a corrupt system, programs that works. In the ongoing debate between who has the worse governance, Georgia or Florida, It is right now Georgia, by about a half length. Florida is coming up fast on the inside though with this: A proposed ammendment to the state constitution to ban birth control.




Mondo,

I heard that through the airwaves, and I thought, Nah, I must have misheard that. No State would be so stupid as to ban birth control, but that is really what they are spending their time with in the state of Florida? WTH??? I thought Okie-homie was bad, but the last thing we need here in our backwater is to gleen more backward ideas from other states - thanks loads, Mondo!

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/23/2009 19:40:28
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey Bob. The GA insurance commissioner did a reverse Katrina (Fed please, not our problem)? Wow! In his defense (sorta), flood insurance is one of those doesn't work, why are we spending money on a corrupt system, programs that works. In the ongoing debate between who has the worse governance, Georgia or Florida, It is right now Georgia, by about a half length. Florida is coming up fast on the inside though with this: A proposed ammendment to the state constitution to ban birth control.




Mondo,

I heard that through the airwaves, and I thought, Nah, I must have misheard that. No State would be so stupid as to ban birth control, but that is really what they are spending their time with in the state of Florida? WTH??? I thought Okie-homie was bad, but the last thing we need here in our backwater is to gleen more backward ideas from other states - thanks loads, Mondo!

Cheers,

mfaye




There is a big fetal personhood movement in Okie-homa, Faye. I just looked it up. They aren't trying to get anything on the ballot for a constitutional amendment that I can

find.



Things to remember about Florida and amendments to the state constitution:



1. They need 600,000 signatures to even get on the ballot.

2. Then the state supreme court gets to say yes or no. This is where a lot of proposed amendments to the Florida constitution die. They are too vague, to exclusionary, or they violate Federal con law (like this one which violates both Roe

and Griswald).



Chances are this will be an epic fail.

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 19:44:53
This caller on Randi sounds like Cheech!

Comment by Raine on 09/23/2009 21:21:23
Holy good god.



AP source: Census worker hanged with 'fed' on body

By DEVLIN BARRETT and JEFFREY McMURRAY (AP) – 14 minutes ago



WASHINGTON — The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery. A law enforcement official says the word "fed" was scrawled on his chest.



The body of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old Census field worker and occasional teacher, was found Sept. 12 in the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.



Investigators have said little about the case. A law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, tells The Associated Press the word "fed" was written on the dead man's chest.

FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is helping state police determine if Sparkman's death was the result of foul play, and if so, whether it was related to his census work.


Comment by m-hadley on 09/23/2009 21:28:35
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey Bob. The GA insurance commissioner did a reverse Katrina (Fed please, not our problem)? Wow! In his defense (sorta), flood insurance is one of those doesn't work, why are we spending money on a corrupt system, programs that works. In the ongoing debate between who has the worse governance, Georgia or Florida, It is right now Georgia, by about a half length. Florida is coming up fast on the inside though with this: A proposed ammendment to the state constitution to ban birth control.




Mondo,

I heard that through the airwaves, and I thought, Nah, I must have misheard that. No State would be so stupid as to ban birth control, but that is really what they are spending their time with in the state of Florida? WTH??? I thought Okie-homie was bad, but the last thing we need here in our backwater is to gleen more backward ideas from other states - thanks loads, Mondo!

Cheers,

mfaye




There is a big fetal personhood movement in Okie-homa, Faye. I just looked it up. They aren't trying to get anything on the ballot for a constitutional amendment that I can

find.



Things to remember about Florida and amendments to the state constitution:



1. They need 600,000 signatures to even get on the ballot.

2. Then the state supreme court gets to say yes or no. This is where a lot of proposed amendments to the Florida constitution die. They are too vague, to exclusionary, or they violate Federal con law (like this one which violates both Roe

and Griswald).



Chances are this will be an epic fail.




Mondo,

It sounds like the founders of Florida guvmint put in quite a few obstacles to amending the FL constitution and good on 'em for doing so. Here in Okie-crack-homie I had a little exchange with my state senator about a bill that they passed that exempts pharmacists from filling prescriptions that run counter to their "belief systems" I just think that a person needs to do their effing job - I may not like to find a case or other legal material for a right-wing alum, but I don't have the option of "Opting out." WTF???

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/23/2009 22:52:28
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey Bob. The GA insurance commissioner did a reverse Katrina (Fed please, not our problem)? Wow! In his defense (sorta), flood insurance is one of those doesn't work, why are we spending money on a corrupt system, programs that works. In the ongoing debate between who has the worse governance, Georgia or Florida, It is right now Georgia, by about a half length. Florida is coming up fast on the inside though with this: A proposed ammendment to the state constitution to ban birth control.




Mondo,

I heard that through the airwaves, and I thought, Nah, I must have misheard that. No State would be so stupid as to ban birth control, but that is really what they are spending their time with in the state of Florida? WTH??? I thought Okie-homie was bad, but the last thing we need here in our backwater is to gleen more backward ideas from other states - thanks loads, Mondo!

Cheers,

mfaye




There is a big fetal personhood movement in Okie-homa, Faye. I just looked it up. They aren't trying to get anything on the ballot for a constitutional amendment that I can

find.



Things to remember about Florida and amendments to the state constitution:



1. They need 600,000 signatures to even get on the ballot.

2. Then the state supreme court gets to say yes or no. This is where a lot of proposed amendments to the Florida constitution die. They are too vague, to exclusionary, or they violate Federal con law (like this one which violates both Roe

and Griswald).



Chances are this will be an epic fail.




Mondo,

It sounds like the founders of Florida guvmint put in quite a few obstacles to amending the FL constitution and good on 'em for doing so. Here in Okie-crack-homie I had a little exchange with my state senator about a bill that they passed that exempts pharmacists from filling prescriptions that run counter to their "belief systems" I just think that a person needs to do their effing job - I may not like to find a case or other legal material for a right-wing alum, but I don't have the option of "Opting out." WTF???

Cheers,

mfaye




You would think it would be hard, but actually the Flordia constitution has HUNDREDS of amendments.

Comment by livingonli on 09/24/2009 02:06:19
Quote by Raine:

Holy good god.



AP source: Census worker hanged with 'fed' on body

By DEVLIN BARRETT and JEFFREY McMURRAY (AP) – 14 minutes ago



WASHINGTON — The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery. A law enforcement official says the word "fed" was scrawled on his chest.



The body of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old Census field worker and occasional teacher, was found Sept. 12 in the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.



Investigators have said little about the case. A law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, tells The Associated Press the word "fed" was written on the dead man's chest.

FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is helping state police determine if Sparkman's death was the result of foul play, and if so, whether it was related to his census work.


Sounds like a fan of Michelle Bachman.