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Bush Kills Children's health care-- AGAIN...
Author: Raine    Date: 12/13/2007 13:06:44

Sometimes it seems like Groundhog Day.
Bush vetoed the second passing of the SCHIP bill. HE did it in private, where he would not have to be a man and face people when he did this disgusting act. From The AP:

...It was Bush's seventh veto in seven years — all but one coming since Democrats took control of Congress in January. Wednesday was the deadline for Bush to act or let the bill become law....

The bill Bush vetoed would have increased federal funding for SCHIP by $35 billion over five years, to add an estimated 4 million people to the program that provides insurance coverage for children from families who earn too much to qualify for Medicaid but cannot afford private insurance. The joint federal-state program currently provides benefits to roughly 6 million people, mostly children.

A major point of contention with the White House was Bush's demand that nearly all poor children eligible for the program be found and enrolled before any in slightly higher-income families could be covered. He originally proposed adding $5 billion to the program over five years but later said he was willing to go higher as long as his conditions were met.

...Of the 43 million people nationwide who lack health insurance, more than 6 million are under 18 years old. That's more than 9 percent of all children.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the House will take up the extension question Thursday in a bill that also will make adjustments to Medicare.

"We'll obviously need to put additional money" into the children's health insurance program, Hoyer said, because several states say they will have to remove recipients from their rolls if the current funding level continues into next year.

So, If no extension is done to this program, the current existing program will fold... leaving states to have to pay for this on their own. States Rights you say? Is this what Republicans wanted when they called for more states rights? The right to let it's citizens go without Healthcare? The right to go further in debt? The right to choose between Oil or Food or medicine?

Well I hope that those children who live in poorer states understand that it won't be the Grinch that they need be concerned with this year, it will be the Bush who stole healthcare from 9 percent of the children in America. Is this what the republican party stands for? All of the candidates say they were against SCHIP. It seems to me that there is a true lack of compassion for our people, our children with this party. (Please note, I must commend those people who DID pass this bill in the House and the Senate, I only wish their were more who took a stand for Americans.)

According to the White house. if congress doesn't pass the multibillion dollar Iraq War funding bill, upwards of 300,00 (THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND) people in government will be laid off. That included 200,000 from the pentagon and another 100,000 civilian sector military jobs.

The Iraq war is not part of the federal budget, it is paid for by borrowing money America simply does not have, and SCHIP? It is a PAY-GO plan. Without it, it will leave states to fend for themselves. And Children will die... but instead, we have a president trying to scare Americans by threatening Pink slips for a war that has nothing to do with their paychecks. We have a president who has threatened nuclear war with Iran, while never even reading the NIE. We have a president who outsourced our war with no bid contracts, no over sight and no accountability... But we can't have a program that insures children that is paid for without putting our country in debt. Makes perfect sense.

The president is a bully to workers, to children and to the American people. This current crop of Republicans candidates are no different. Why anyone would want to attach themselves to this breed of republicanism is beyond me, It is neither fiscally nor socially conservative. It is pure radical unbridled corporatism that puts profits over people and destroys any social safety net we may have once had. It isn't what FDR talking about when he mentioned the Four Freedoms...

Freedom of speech and expression
Freedom of every person to worship in his own way
Freedom from want
Freedom from fear


So, come on inside, coffee is on. We have some Lady Grey tea as well...

Let's do this day full and loud and proud!
:peace: and

Raine

**********[ NOTE ]***********

We'll be blogging here today for the Democratic Presidential debate. Be sure to join us!

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Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 13:24:11
I think Bush is winning.



This morning, I was freaked out by a car following me.



It was a big, black, Dodge Charger, of the kind that is being favored by more and more police departments around the country. (Photo below)



My route to work is a convoluted one, down mostly residential streets bypassing in turn Main Street, Watertown Square, Watertown High School, and a busy intersection on Mount Auburn Street.



Since my route is so out of the way, I noticed this car following me at a respectful distance, turn-for-turn, for over half of my commute.



But when we did finally go in different directions, it was a civilian woman driving it.



Thanks, George. I sure do feel safer now. Why else would a black car be following me if it wasn't your minions?



http://www.businessradiosales.com/charger586.JPG


Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 13:45:42
I have been followed too... If it is in my head or or for real I don't care... this is what this administration has done to me. :F*uckin' Fred*

Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 13:51:18
Although it's hard to tell looking in a rear-view mirror, you can usually tell a government-issue car because it has no extras on it. No decorative trim, no pinstripes, no dealer decals, no fancy wheel covers, no bumber stickers or stickers on the windows.



Understood that it's more difficult to detect that when the car is behind you.



You could always pull over and see what the following car does - although that could have unintended consequences:



My brother-in-law tells the story of being behind a car with a couple kids that were making faces at him. As he continued to drive, the car in front kept turning the way he was going. In fact, the car suddenly turned into his neighborhood, and then pulled into his driveway.



As my brother-in-law pulled into his driveway behind the car, the woman driver jumped out and yelled "WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME??".



My brother-in-law simply pulled out his garage door opener and opened the garage door. The woman turned bright red, apologized, and left.



True Story. :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:14:59
Isn't that nice... The good grace of God allowed Huckabee to slaughter one of gods creatures.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:15:52
Ralph reed, A Reborn reborn again Christian...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:19:09
Well, Momma DID call Mr. MAthews a right wing tool...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:22:42
Red State update on Alan KEyes and Fred hands....

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:44:55
The friggin republicans are off thier rocker... the NIE is a compilation of over 16 agencies!!!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:45:41
:modbat: where is everyone this morning? :(

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 14:47:54
Good morning everyone.



Another night where I didn't sleep very well. I hate my current job and the hours that come with it.



And storm's a-coming. Gotta baton down the hatchet.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 14:48:00
Mmm Lady Grey. Lovely. I'll take a cup.

Good morning Blog.





Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 14:52:55
Does Bill-O smoke crack before he goes on the air?



I'm gonna send the heat meister to light a fire under his ass.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:53:12
Yes, Billo... you were the dumbest Kid in NYS. Still are.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 14:53:54
The Billo bwachicka mwa mwa moment.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 14:58:02
Hey, Bill-O, your B-roll is making me hot.



http://www.maurylaws.com/Heatmiser.jpg


Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:03:02
BTW, it is posted over on the MB, but you all should scrolll the bottom of the Red State update and see the RSU "Christmas With Mike Gravel" No really... Please see it... I nearly peed my pants laughing so hard.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:05:03
Raine, sent you a PM.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:08:25
She might like that we call her B BOX!

:wub2:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:10:27
Morning! :hug:

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:12:16
"In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade

And he carries the reminders of every glove that laid him down or cut him

til he cried out in his anger and his shame

I am leaving, I am leaving, but the fighter still remains"


Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:12:28
OMG... did taxpayers pay for this?????

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:15:48
Steph you are not Gen X.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:16:46
Generation X is a term used to describe generations in many countries around the world which were born between 1965 and 1980. The exact demographic boundaries of Generation X are not well defined, depending on who is using the term, where and when. The term is used in demography, the social sciences, and marketing, though it is most often used in popular culture. The generation's influence over pop culture began in the 1980s and may have peaked in the 1990s.[citation needed]





from the Wiki



Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:17:44
No way me and momma can be the same "Gen" title as me. :pirate:

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:17:56
WHEEL



OF





FORTUNE!



Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:19:08
Until Momma's eggs finally turn to dust, she will argue that she's a Gen-Xer.



"Go back to her knitting. Her stories are on."

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:19:52
Quote by livingonli: Raine, sent you a PM.
replied!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:20:36
Umm - I thought tattoos were a no-no in the Jewish community.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:20:48
The blooper part of the Barney Video is funny, when barney can't run fast enough away from Bush....

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:22:07
I saw that on Keith last night.



When Jenna holds the dog, she has the dog in front of her blocking the view of her stomach.



Is she trying to hide something?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:23:08
Quote by wickedpam: Umm - I thought tattoos were a no-no in the Jewish community.
Truew, but all rules go to hell when you have a drunk Jew in the Palestinian side of town...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:24:18
Quote by livingonli: I saw that on Keith last night. When Jenna holds the dog, she has the dog in front of her blocking the view of her stomach. Is she trying to hide something?
You know, I saw the Jenna on "ellen on you tube, Jenna was wearing a black dress there... you could not see anything.... :scratchhead:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:29:12


Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:29:23
Gluvvey :peace:



:spit:

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:32:32
If Jenna's pregnancy is such a secrecy, I'm surprised they didn't arrange to have it "taken care" of, like when W knocked up some other women back in the early 70's (according to Larry Flynt).

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:33:01
ok video fixity fixed... tell me if you can see anything... and the other thing, is that at this point Jenna would have to be about 14 months pregnant...

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:33:27
I wish B BOX was running for the spot of 1st female US President!





Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:34:53
Last night on my break I was able to pick up 3WT from DC, and when Steph was supposed to be on, they had a Caps game on.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:35:41
:bad: Momma she was a good moderator.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:37:00
NO! it was DOMESTIC ISSUES! don't defend the Fixed Noise NEtwork.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:37:07
Democrat issues?



Chris Chris Chris Chris. . . .





Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:37:26
Democrat issues? - seemed like actual public issues to me.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:38:05
I am still sticking by my theory.



Alan Keys?



GAY!



More queer than a 2 dollar bill!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:38:48
Taht is the only good thing that was said during the debate! OH! momma talk about the sanke bites!

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:38:52
It's 38 degrees and raining right now here.

Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 15:39:01
Quote by Raine: ok video fixity fixed... tell me if you can see anything... and the other thing, is that at this point Jenna would have to be about 14 months pregnant...


It's moving from the larval stage to the pupal stage...

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:40:49
I thought she was a good moderator.



Listening to Ron Paul I can see how he's gaining traction it all sounds very reasonable then you dig under the surface.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:41:32
Is there a survival need for killing an Antelope?!?!?



F*CKIN HUCK!

Whatever happened to compassion for all living things?



Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:42:06
God is an independant...

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:43:55
If there should be any litmus test it should be that. . . . "Do you kill innocent living creatures for no apparent reason?"

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:44:43
Quote by wickedpam: I thought she was a good moderator. Listening to Ron Paul I can see how he's gaining traction it all sounds very reasonable then you dig under the surface.
She was good, She made it clear that She was in charge. These guys didn't like to be told that they had to follow the rules, and that a person would actually enforce the rules, in a calm orderly fashion without turning itno a yuckfest.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:46:00
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine: ok video fixity fixed... tell me if you can see anything... and the other thing, is that at this point Jenna would have to be about 14 months pregnant...


It's moving from the larval stage to the pupal stage...


Is it going to pop out of her stomach like in Alien.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:46:09
The whole Gun thing makes me really ill... to thank the lord for a good rifle with good action .... to thank the lord for putting a bullet thru an animals heart... that is sick.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:46:28
She was immune to Fred Thompson soft, pillowy man boobs.



Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:50:43
Quote by Raine: The whole Gun thing makes me really ill... to thank the lord for a good rifle with good action .... to thank the lord for putting a bullet thru an animals heart... that is sick.







I missed that part, who was it praised his gun?



Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:52:07
Quote by Raine: The whole Gun thing makes me really ill... to thank the lord for a good rifle with good action .... to thank the lord for putting a bullet thru an animals heart... that is sick.









you know? I was just thinking that the more I think about this issue, the more it pisses me off. These guys get up there and pontificate about the "Sanctity of Life," but think nothing of popping a cap in a living creatures ass. Yes, I know they are animals. And, in their mind an animal is not the same as a baby. But, an animal is, objectively, a living creature. They do feel pain, etc. And, somehow I doubt GOD would approve of killing a living creature.



Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:52:21
On hold...

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:53:48
Yeah!

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:54:16
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: The whole Gun thing makes me really ill... to thank the lord for a good rifle with good action .... to thank the lord for putting a bullet thru an animals heart... that is sick.







I missed that part, who was it praised his gun?





Huckabee. . . Mister Preacher, himself.



AND, the Security Guard at those church shootings thanked God for "guiding her" when she shot the assailant. God didn't guide you. You're gun training guided you. Get over it.



I couldn't have been more happy than when Kathy Griffin said "Suck it Jesus" because she was talking about all the celebrities that "Thank God" for awards that they've won....like he's got nothing better to do, than help them win a Golden Globe.



Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 15:55:34
Quote by starling310:





you know? I was just thinking that the more I think about this issue, the more it pisses me off. These guys get up there and pontificate about the "Sanctity of Life," but think nothing of popping a cap in a living creatures ass. Yes, I know they are animals. And, in their mind an animal is not the same as a baby. But, an animal is, objectively, a living creature. They do feel pain, etc. And, somehow I doubt GOD would approve of killing a living creature.



I'm not a hunter, but I'm also not a vegetarian. I can understand killing an animal to eat it (that's part of the whole food chain), but killing just for a "trophy" or the fun of it isn't that far from murder, AFAIC....

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:57:53
Raine!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 15:58:59
Chris that debate was for Iowians who vote.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 15:59:15
Did take you out to the toolshed and beat you with a right-wing talking point stick?

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 15:59:33
Quote by BobR:

I'm not a hunter, but I'm also not a vegetarian. I can understand killing an animal to eat it (that's part of the whole food chain), but killing just for a "trophy" or the fun of it isn't that far from murder, AFAIC....




I agree to a certain extent. I just don't feel, that in 2007, with a Food Store down the street, there is ever a "true need" to kill an animal.

But, I will concede that point.

Maybe Mike did eat that antelope, but that to me is like eating Foi Gras; it's mean and unnecessary.



Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 15:59:41
I love I never said he was a RWT... :(....

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:00:13
Quote by starling310:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: The whole Gun thing makes me really ill... to thank the lord for a good rifle with good action .... to thank the lord for putting a bullet thru an animals heart... that is sick.







I missed that part, who was it praised his gun?





Huckabee. . . Mister Preacher, himself.



AND, the Security Guard at those church shootings thanked God for "guiding her" when she shot the assailant. God didn't guide you. You're gun training guided you. Get over it.



I couldn't have been more happy than when Kathy Griffin said "Suck it Jesus" because she was talking about all the celebrities that "Thank God" for awards that they've won....like he's got nothing better to do, than help them win a Golden Globe.





Figured it was a southern guy. I swear until I moved south I had never heard of guns being attached to religion.



Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:00:32
Good job Raine. . .

The issues should be the same for all Americans. It will be responses that will differ between Republicans and Democrats. But, the questions should still be asked!



Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 16:01:23
Quote by starling310:



I agree to a certain extent. I just don't feel, that in 2007, with a Food Store down the street, there is ever a "true need" to kill an animal.

But, I will concede that point.

Maybe Mike did eat that antelope, but that to me is like eating Foi Gras; it's mean and unnecessary.



It was an antelope?



He probably didn't eat it then. But if he had, the bullet probably killed it faster than a lion would have...

Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 16:02:17
Quote by starling310: Good job Raine. . .

The issues should be the same for all Americans. It will be responses that will differ between Republicans and Democrats. But, the questions should still be asked!



Exactly - are there questions that shouldn't be asked at the Democratic debates because they're not "Democratic issues"?

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:02:32
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310:



I agree to a certain extent. I just don't feel, that in 2007, with a Food Store down the street, there is ever a "true need" to kill an animal.

But, I will concede that point.

Maybe Mike did eat that antelope, but that to me is like eating Foi Gras; it's mean and unnecessary.



It was an antelope?



He probably didn't eat it then. But if he had, the bullet probably killed it faster than a lion would have...




Yup...an antelope.



Well, I am glad it didn't suffer. I just don't agree. That's all.





Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:02:37
Quote by Raine: I love I never said he was a RWT... :(....




No Steph did.



Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:02:58
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310: Good job Raine. . .

The issues should be the same for all Americans. It will be responses that will differ between Republicans and Democrats. But, the questions should still be asked!



Exactly - are there questions that shouldn't be asked at the Democratic debates because they're not "Democratic issues"?




For instance?





Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:04:51
Tim Russert can ask Dennis Kucinich about a friggin' UFO sighting, but God Forbid Republicans have to answer a question that doesn't revolve around Guns, God, or Gays. ( or, unborn children )! Their last debate was not about Iraq. . . it was about the 3 G's!



Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:05:15
We have become winter wusses, there's barely anything on the ground and all the closures have started.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:07:40
Quote by starling310: Good job Raine. . . The issues should be the same for all Americans. It will be responses that will differ between Republicans and Democrats. But, the questions should still be asked!
I mean I expect Fixed noise to say that, but we should be perpetuating that these were democratic issues. That is just another example of the sublte divisions doen by the media. :kickcan: I wish Producer Chris had some time to get over here and talk about it. I didn't mean to be so mean to him... but it just get's me worked up...

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:08:39
Quote by livingonli: We have become winter wusses, there's barely anything on the ground and all the closures have started.


Yeah, my friends high schoolers are home already.



But, ya know, in all fairness, maybe school officials have learned that it's easier to keep them home, then schlep them through the snow.



Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:09:27
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Good job Raine. . .

The issues should be the same for all Americans. It will be responses that will differ between Republicans and Democrats. But, the questions should still be asked!

I mean I expect Fixed noise to say that, but we should be perpetuating that these were democratic issues. That is just another example of the sublte divisions doen by the media.



:kickcan: I wish Producer Chris had some time to get over here and talk about it. I didn't mean to be so mean to him... but it just get's me worked up...







Do you mean we should NOT be perpetuating?





Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:10:08
Quote by starling310:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310: Good job Raine. . . The issues should be the same for all Americans. It will be responses that will differ between Republicans and Democrats. But, the questions should still be asked!
Exactly - are there questions that shouldn't be asked at the Democratic debates because they're not "Democratic issues"?
For instance?
How about the Flat tax?? ... no there Are none. No question should be off limits... it was up to the moderator to set the tome of the debate. And she said, that she was going to ask questions that were of importance of the residents of IOWA.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:10:19
Hey, I posted that on AAP. "Facts are gay and have a liberal bias."

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:10:43


Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:11:21
I know the hippoptumus song! That is an old song...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:12:17
Quote by livingonli: Hey, I posted that on AAP. "Facts are gay and have a liberal bias."
YAY LIV!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:12:24
I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas is a Christmas novelty song written by John Coctoasten and performed by Gayla Peevey (11 years old at the time) in 1953. According to legend, she was a regional child star of the Oklahoma City area. This 1953 hit was recorded as a fund-raiser to bring the city zoo a hippo. When released nationally by Columbia Records the song shot to the top of the charts, and the city zoo got a baby hippo named Matilda.



It is a Dr. Demento Christmas staple, and is currently available on Dr. Demento's The Greatest Novelty Records of All Time Vol. 6: Christmas.



The B-side of the original 78 featured the song "Are my Ears on Straight?"





From WIki





Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:13:05
NO Gen X was 1965-1980!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:13:24
w00t!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:14:40
Quote by wickedpam: I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas is a Christmas novelty song written by John Coctoasten and performed by Gayla Peevey (11 years old at the time) in 1953. According to legend, she was a regional child star of the Oklahoma City area. This 1953 hit was recorded as a fund-raiser to bring the city zoo a hippo. When released nationally by Columbia Records the song shot to the top of the charts, and the city zoo got a baby hippo named Matilda. It is a Dr. Demento Christmas staple, and is currently available on Dr. Demento's The Greatest Novelty Records of All Time Vol. 6: Christmas. The B-side of the original 78 featured the song "Are my Ears on Straight?" From WIki
:clap: Mala withthe funfacts™ I used to LOOOOve Dr. Demento!

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:15:01
I almost thought like they could have been in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:15:41
I miss the Dr. Demento show. I haven't heard it in years.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:17:34
Jodie Foster is GAY GAY GAY! PUH Lease!



Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:18:02
Jodie Came out of the Closet??? OMG, My friend lived on the Same block as her in new York City and YEARS ago (like 20) people saw them together... this is so not news.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:19:03
:puke:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:19:44
Without Dr. Demento I would never have heard Fish Heads, discovered Weird Al, heard the Ramones or the song Dead Puppies.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:19:51
:rofl: having a heart attack....

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:27:41
Darts: VERY DANGEROUS.... ( I know... I got hit in the neck once...)

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:32:31
Quote by Raine: Darts: VERY DANGEROUS.... ( I know... I got hit in the neck once...)






Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:34:41
Stupid Itchy WINTER SKIN!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:34:55
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine: Darts: VERY DANGEROUS.... ( I know... I got hit in the neck once...)








:spit:



You just made me choke on my coffee!



Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:35:27
Quote by starling310: Stupid Itchy WINTER SKIN!




invest in petrolum jelly



Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:35:53
Hartford? YAY!



Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:36:48
The Wiki is my Frenemy.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:36:57
Ike ain't rolling anywhere.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:37:19
Tina's a buddhist. . . I am sure she's forgiven him.

:hug:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:37:48
Angela Looks AWESOME. Sorry.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:37:52
I loved when she beat him in the back of the limo.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:39:35
BTW, PAris posed Nude for this ad campaign...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:42:09
The same intelligence that 16 agencies agreed uon for the NIE.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:43:11
Uhm... the only conflict is the TRUE NIE and the LYING republican in the Administration.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:43:19






God I hope we don't carry it - besides she's late to that party

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:47:31
Quote by wickedpam:





God I hope we don't carry it - besides she's late to that party


Maybe Momma can compare the merits of box wine vs. can wine.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:48:55
B-Box!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:48:56
:bow: B-Box!

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:50:14
Now the party can really begin.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:51:07
BBOX!



BBOX!



:banana:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:51:21
So what is you opinion on the Wine in a can MAla? I know it's Sofia... but sill, it is wine in a can... I dunno if I can go for this...

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:51:45
Li La Li. . .

Li La Li Li Li La Li

Li La Li. . .


Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:52:14
IS Bush going to Veto this bill as well? Has anyone heard about this or not?

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:52:16
Has Inhoufe ever said whether or not he believes in evolution? I know there's that clown from his office who debates Thom Hartmann saying that global warming is a myth.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:52:50
She is a pretty cool woman actually, Ms. Gerberding.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:57:24
B-Box... you are so dreamy.... I want to spoon you! YAY!!!! she is running again!!!1

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 16:58:09
Me first! I get first dibs on spooning BBOX!



Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 16:58:14
I lvoed Ms. Boxer when she was on LArry David!

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 16:58:17
B-box supports impeachment. She does rock.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 16:59:54
Quote by Raine: So what is you opinion on the Wine in a can MAla? I know it's Sofia... but sill, it is wine in a can... I dunno if I can go for this...






It's not bad - I like it in the bottle better, but it's a gimmick for the nightclubs - they can sell those little cans and bottle (POP) for around $10 a shot and they only cost about $3 for the account to buy.

Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 17:05:16


Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 17:07:28
Bobber. Stop lurkin' around buster!



Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 17:10:18
Suddenly the words



Peeping Bob



just popped into my head

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 17:12:23
HA! Peeping Bob. Good one.



Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 17:18:29
It dropped fast. Now it's 28 and snowing.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 17:21:02
Snowing like a mutha here! I am going to leave soon and wait out the drive at a friends house. Tee hee. . .



Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 17:23:10
Weather Channel says Hartford is supposed to get 8-12 inches of snow. Long Island is supposed to get 2-4 inches.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 17:26:43
Yes...that's true. Up to a foot. . . I am a little south of Hartford, but it will probably be about the same.





Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 17:38:56
Is that guy calling from his bathroom?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 17:43:54
OK, so we are going for lunch, and we should be back in time for the debate... :D...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 17:48:24
You guys PLEASE drive carefully!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 17:49:33
:rofl: peeping bob indeed!!!

Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 18:44:59
:ph34r:



Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 18:53:34
Poor Tri. Buried under a pile of salt.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 18:56:49
Firstly what is up with the time stamp? It is on some wierd tz in the mid-Atlantic??



Secondly, it is my considered opinion based on minutes of exhaustive research that almost all christmas carols suck rhino. Even the great Ella Fitzgerald can not make them sound good. Discuss.



Mondo

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 18:57:36
Well it looks like msnbc will be preempting the debate becuase of the baseball thang. I am going to watch from the CNN channel...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 18:58:00
Do we want a new blog for the dems debate?

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 18:59:07
Headline News is supposed to be carrying the steroid news as well. I will probably go to channel 13 until I have to leave for work.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 18:59:57
I do not want to see the steroids list from baseball MSNBC... sorry, even if you DID bring in Keith Oldberman.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 19:01:53
She gets to moderate again. Will Neil Cavuto still be ripping on her afterwards?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:02:16
Hello Carolyn Washburn! Please make sure you only ask REPUBLICAN questions... (sorry I am only :poke:)

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:03:32
Already I see the right wing complaining that she is offering rebuttal time.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 19:03:48
I have the debate on Thirteen.



CNN has the debate.

Headline News has the steroids.

Fixed Noise has the debate.

CNBC and Fox Business have the steroids.

Bloomberg has the steroids.

CNN International has the steroids.

C-SPAN 3 has the debate.

Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 19:04:02
Roger Clemens used steroids!!!!



(shock, horror...)





Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 19:05:15
Quote by Mondobubba: Firstly what is up with the time stamp? It is on some wierd tz in the mid-Atlantic??



Secondly, it is my considered opinion based on minutes of exhaustive research that almost all christmas carols suck rhino. Even the great Ella Fitzgerald can not make them sound good. Discuss.



Mondo




Nay.



End of discussion.





Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 19:06:14
Quote by wickedpam: Suddenly the words



Peeping Bob



just popped into my head




Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:07:00
Moderator to Obama... sir just want to be clear, yes or no... balanced buidget...





AND no Mr. Richardson, you will not be getting a line Item veto.



Jeepers... Balance the budget... yes or no.



Joe Biden... Aww he has a cold... Hmmm interesting, he would stop the war to allow for a balanced budget? No he has not said he would or not.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:08:40
Come on John say it in 30... tick tick tick.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:09:31
So far no one will commit to a balanced budget... hilary compared herself to what Bill did with the economy...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:10:35
New Question: When are tax increases appropriate?Richardson would get rid of the top 2% tax cuts.

Comment by BobR on 12/13/2007 19:11:25
Quote by Mondobubba: Firstly what is up with the time stamp? It is on some wierd tz in the mid-Atlantic??



Secondly, it is my considered opinion based on minutes of exhaustive research that almost all christmas carols suck rhino. Even the great Ella Fitzgerald can not make them sound good. Discuss.



Mondo


The database stores all times as GMT. When your browser displays the records, it's supposed to convert them to your local time, based on the timezone you have set on your PC. If you have javascript disabled (or your PC's timezone is set incorrectly) then you'll see weird times.



As to carols: I stand by my comments here.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:13:56
Edwards is not really answering the question. And hillary just used the same line we heard the other day... Altho, I have now heard her say "during the 90's" 4 times now... :whistling:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:14:38
Basically, it comes down to removing the military expenses in Iraq in order to afford new programs.

Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 19:16:43
Go to www.somafm.com and listen to either Christmas in Frisko or the Christmas Lounge...



there is some truly inventive stuff out there these days. I'm liking a lot of the trip-hop and downtempo treatments of some of the classics, and there are some very cool calliope versions of things that really shouldn't be played on a calliope.



More of a novelty thing, I know, but intersting nonetheless.



And I gather you've never heard Miles Davis' "Blue Xmas"? It's long out of print, but if you can get one, it's a masterwork of dark Christmas angst.



I don't know if it's Christmas music or not, but Eric Jackson of WGBH-FM has played Duke Ellington's concerts of Sacred Music on Christmas week for the past 25 years or so. Problems with "Come Sunday" may be addressed directly to the Supreme Being, lest he smite you with His Noodly Appengage.





Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 19:16:59
Quote by Raine: Edwards is not really answering the question. And hillary just used the same line we heard the other day... Altho, I have now heard her say "during the 90's" 4 times now... :whistling:


Sounds like she wants to sell everyone on this as her presidency would be Bill Clinton Mark II.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:17:02
OK, the question guys! Answer the questions!





OOpse, she just got off Richardson.



Christopher Dodd is now currently not answering the question... :bad:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:17:51
OOOh China debt and the relationship that we have with China...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:18:56
But candidates, how do we ban all this banning when they have our American balls in a shiny Chinese make PRada knockoff handbag?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:19:39
Chris Dodd just said it is an adversarial relationship... Pretty good answer, by saying that this needs to be delt with

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:20:20
Chris Dodd for Secretary of Commerce!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:21:20
The right to negoatiate for lower drug prices Hillary? Don't you think your PAC people might not be happy with that?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:22:34
I will never understand why the Feds can't negotiate cost for drugs on medicare.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:23:23
Obama is gonna answer my question! the Drugs companies lobbied for it and they got that provision!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:25:08
Free open statement... OBama up... Fierce Urgency of now

(quoting MLK) and no, he doesn't have a black preacher voice... :P

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 19:25:34
I'm still listening to Thom and I will be leaving for work in a few minutes so I am not as focused on the debate.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:28:38
Good answers from Biden and Richardson about human rights and our trade policies.



WE NEED TRADE AGREEMENTS that do not abuse human rights!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:29:29
You GO CHRISS DODD!!!!!!!! Human rights ARE part of our national securityand foriegn policy!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:30:37
Edwards asking what America actually got from our trade policy in china... lead toys, poison fods, MAytag plant in Iowa closed down, all while big Corps have record profits~! :clap:

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:31:40
:buzz: bad answer hillary... You cannot have it both ways... either you are going to protect jobs or you are going to protect corporatism.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:33:53
uhm... Mr. Biden, most of us are standing... we jsut need a leader to walk with us!

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 19:34:03
Time to go brave the elements and head off to the salt mine.



I hate winter.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 19:34:28
Be Careful Liv!

Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 19:35:36
Arsenal street westbound is gridlocked outside my window; that's the way I need to go home. (But I know about 6 alternate routes from here.) I'm going to wait a while so the early-leaving Marys can get home.



Have I mentioned recently that I laugh at the weather?



Haaahaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaa!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:38:51
HOLY Crap! We are borring a million dollars a day in foriegn oil??? And yes, I agree with Chriss Dodd about the CArbon Tax.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:40:17
I must say That I appreciate that the Dems are being honest in saying that we will have to do something about Global Warming. What DOES dismay me is that those that have been saying this have not really been listened to

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:40:55
Walmart iseven seeing the profit in going green.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:42:38
WE need to get the grid off carbon fuels.



People will have an easier tiem follwing as manufacturing plants do..

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 19:44:18
Quote by Raine: Walmart iseven seeing the profit in going green.






I know they are promoting the hell out of those new lightbulbs.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:44:34
I find it interesting That Chris Dodd consideres FArmland a vital rescource. True DAT!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:46:08
So Tri how many BoSax players are caught up in the scandal? I see giambi is... (oooh! What a shock!!!)

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:47:48
You know it is interesting, The dems are getting asked a lot of the same type of questions as the republicans...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:52:51
You know it is interesting, The dems are getting asked a lot of the same type of questions as the republicans...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:52:54
You know it is interesting, The dems are getting asked a lot of the same type of questions as the republicans...

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:53:57
YES! Richardson would scrap NCLB!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:54:44
So far all have said they would increase art and music... What I REALLY want to hear is that they would return CIVICS to the education system!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:54:46
So far all have said they would increase art and music... What I REALLY want to hear is that they would return CIVICS to the education system!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:55:41
Man, I really like Chris Dodd... HE is a schmaht cookie!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:56:37
Hey, hill how about increasing the feds input to public education from 10 to say 30%?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:57:43
OK, now I john edwards... He wold pay for books and supplies if children worked thru college.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:58:25
I am so happy that not one damn candidate up here is promoting private schools... :D

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 19:59:05
Quote by Raine: You know it is interesting, The dems are getting asked a lot of the same type of questions as the republicans...




That would seem fair to me



Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 19:59:16
OK, I like that Obama said he would reverse Bush's executive orders...

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 19:59:45
Quote by Raine: OK, now I john edwards... He wold pay for books and supplies if children worked thru college.






I would have loved that during my college years!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:00:34
Biden said he would get rid of Bush's policy of torture, but unlike Obama, he didn't say anything about reversing those executive orders... Obama made me warm and squishy hen he said that.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:01:04
Richardson would bring back habeous corpous!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:02:17
Chris Dodd said that he would give us back our constitution... :heart:



Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 20:02:50
Quote by Raine: So Tri how many BoSax players are caught up in the scandal? I see giambi is... (oooh! What a shock!!!)




Roger, Eric Gagne, Mo Vaughn, but that's not everyone named in the report, only the 'name' players at the moment.





Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:03:11
Edwards up, End the war... etc and will also return our civil liberites... But he said he can't do it without the American people taking the country back from cororate greed.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:03:55
Jeez, hill just said that she would ISSUE an executive order... GRR>>>

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:05:00
Character questions, first too hillary about how she dealt with her health care plan and how she is gonna be different now... *Hillary iowans want to know if you are secretive now as you were then...* EEP!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:06:25
Biden, being asked about his racial gaffes... including the comment about Obama and indians at 7-11... oofda, Mr. Biden.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:08:16
Biden is handling this issue VERY well. He admits that he may be blunt, but that he has never meant anything the way it came across... I tend to agree with Joe. And Obama is covering his back on that! VERY cool!

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:09:40
Edwards was just asked how he expects to get anything done in DC since he has done nothing but alienate the lobbyist groups... :huh:



That was a kinda dumb question.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:10:37
Question about Dodd's Father and being Censured... another silly question. They want to know if this still motivates him.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:11:51
You know everyone is doing pretty damn well in this debate, even hillary. It is interesting when people are nto swipng and being nasty and bitching at each other.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:12:52
I wish Dennis was here tho...:(

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:13:42
Obama with the forign policy question. Hillary got a little bitchy, AND Obama taking her on!





Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:17:24
softball question... New years resolutions... And hillary has a few of them! What a shock!





Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:18:18
Edwards: Uhm... somewhere in america,:yadda: he doesn't seem to have a resolution.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:19:01
Chris dodd wants to return hope to the country. HE wants to have the iowans Causus for him! :D

Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 20:19:53
*snort*



You're seeing why I picked Bill Richardson in the early stages of this, right?





Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 20:20:13
Dem's much funnier and it seems alot more relaxed.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:21:20
Bill Richardson wants to lose weight... again! And he wants to end this countries dysfuctional relationship with politicians. Stay positive and be optimistic and not tear each other dow.









Biden makes the same one every year... HE resloves to remember what it was like to have bad times... basically remember where you came from.



And Obama... better father and Husband... he wants to remeber that this is not about him... Damn Joe and Obama, bringing some wetness to my eyes.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:24:43
last question.. lessons from iowa... 2 seconds... hillary ate a lot... She leanred about intamcy in Iowa!





Edwards, he learned that the casus is imprtant because it is so personal, and that the iowans are personable people.



Dodd: Enjoys everythign on a stick at the State fair. (dodd's family relocated to Iowa btw)



Richardson: says he learned that iowans like underdogs!

Biden: They deserve to be first becuase they take the caucus seriously. :)



Obama: People get the chance to lift the hood and take the candidates out for a test drive.



(damn I like IOWA!)





Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:28:49
And Fox tearing apart the moderator, again... Fox bitching

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:29:32
Attack the messenger... Sheesh why am I doing this to myself?

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 20:38:15
gutton for punishment?

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:40:24
I agree MAla, the debate was alot more relaxed, I got the feeling that a few of these people actrually LIKE each other. Especially that Joe Biden moment. That was a damn rough questions, and he handled it like a champ.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 20:41:39
Quote by wickedpam: gutton for punishment?


I am... I turned it off. Time for some Randi, I think. (no punishment there!)



As an aside, did liv head out to work? Oh dear I hope he drives carefully...

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 20:43:08
Bell, Book and Candle?

Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe?

THe Devil and Mike Huckabee?

Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 20:44:39
Quote by Raine: I agree MAla, the debate was alot more relaxed, I got the feeling that a few of these people actrually LIKE each other. Especially that Joe Biden moment. That was a damn rough questions, and he handled it like a champ.




Thought he handled that with grace and decorum. I think they all like each other, and I think they pretty much respect each other.



Comment by TriSec on 12/13/2007 20:44:48
Alright, once more unto the breach, dear friends!



A co-worker is reporting speeds in the 4-5mph range on Arsenal/Main street heading home. (Yes, it just took her an hour to go 4 miles.)



I do have an alternate, and it looks like I just need to go 1/2 block eastbound to get into the residential neighborhood and wallow home.



I'll be back online later....but if you don't hear from me send out the dogs!



Comment by wickedpam on 12/13/2007 20:53:51
Be careful out there Tri!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/13/2007 21:39:37
Quote by Raine: OK, the question guys! Answer the questions!





OOpse, she just got off Richardson.



Christopher Dodd is now currently not answering the question... :bad:




:scans blog, missreads: Huh got Richardson off? How? What a hussy! Does Mrs Richardson approve of such things? How are other candidates dealing with it?

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 21:42:29
I am here. It only took me 55 minutes to get to work. It has changed over to rain here.



Randi did make one good point today. Why was Dennis Kucinich excluded from the Democratic Debate for not having a campaign office when Alan Keyes was allowed in the Republican debate and he only has one staffer for his whole campaign.



I think Kucinich and Gravel would have added to the debate. :)

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 22:12:00
Quick pop in... BEen working on Holiday stuff this afternoon, but I heard that Andy Pettitte is another one who got nabbed with the steroids and the flaven.

Comment by Raine on 12/13/2007 22:15:36
Quote by livingonli: I am here. It only took me 55 minutes to get to work. It has changed over to rain here. Randi did make one good point today. Why was Dennis Kucinich excluded from the Democratic Debate for not having a campaign office when Alan Keyes was allowed in the Republican debate and he only has one staffer for his whole campaign. I think Kucinich and Gravel would have added to the debate. :)
I have been doing some research on this, and from what people are saying is that Dennis while he does have one full time volunteer staffer there, he has only been to Iowa 15 times, and basically has chosen not to campaign there. This makes sense actually since it was a state debate. Now as far as Keyes... he did rent an office, but I have not been able to confirm how much time he has spent in Iowa campaigning.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 22:21:39
Maybe Alan Keyes rented a roadside farm stand for his campaign.

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 22:24:14
Right now at work, MSG is running "Inside the Knicks #24: Bill Bradley".

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 22:25:14
Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 23:13:09
Holy Jeebus....it took me 1 hour and 45 minutes to drive home.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 23:16:54
Quote by Raine: You GO CHRISS DODD!!!!!!!! Human rights ARE part of our national securityand foriegn policy!




Oh...he had a chance to clarify that comment from the last debate?

Comment by livingonli on 12/13/2007 23:19:54
Quote by starling310: Holy Jeebus....it took me 1 hour and 45 minutes to drive home.


At least you're home OK. Tonight, I have the Devils-Bruins game and I see how Boston's getting hammered. They were showing snow removal on the pre-feed.

Comment by starling310 on 12/13/2007 23:58:40
Go Rachel! Go Rachel!





talking about infrastructure and how the people in the midwest have been without power for days.



Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 00:12:46
Light crowd in the TD Banknorth Garden. I thought Bruins fans could deal with a little snow. But the traffic on I-93 that I saw looked like a bitch.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 01:23:58
sunny and 80ish today if you must ask.

Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 01:25:03
Quote by Mondobubba: sunny and 80ish today if you must ask.


I'm jealous.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 01:38:54
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Mondobubba: sunny and 80ish today if you must ask.


I'm jealous.




Don't be. Nothing puts ya in the holiday spirit like summer weather.

Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 01:52:09
Quote by livingonli:



http://www.maurylaws.com/Heatmiser.jpg


That's why I am partial to this guy.

Comment by TriSec on 12/14/2007 01:55:59
Houston?



Ice Station Zebra here.



The TriSec has landed.



Almost 2 hours to go 4 miles. But there was an excuse, the only road that leads to my house had a 5-car accident on it and was entirely shut down. I sat without moving for 45 minutes. There was no way around it.





Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 01:59:47
Donde los Yikes, Tri? Is it that bad? Or does no one know how to drive in it? Or maybe both?

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:01:37
HEy all... just got back from Dinner... It was Pint night at one of fave Brew pubs. We were watching teh devils Bruins game, and hoohaw, boston is getting slammed!

Comment by velveeta jones on 12/14/2007 02:01:48
Damn Tri!! Stay home tomorrow will ya?

Hope everyone in the NE takes care. Big storm coming! (But ya'll probably knew that).

Velveeta is on Red Cross disaster standby. May be going to WV in the next few days.



Stock up on your supplies.

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:03:24
Quote by livingonli: Donde los Yikes, Tri? Is it that bad? Or does no one know how to drive in it? Or maybe both?


From what I saw on the tv machne, it is a pretty wicket storm

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 02:03:48
w00t! The Latin Kings on "Gangland"

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:05:00
I heard the NE is supposed to have a quick storm tonite and then another saturday.



But if Miss VJ is reportng that the red cross is on standby... I would heed the warning... WOW!

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:05:52
Quote by Mondobubba: w00t! The Latin Kings on "Gangland"


heya mondo-eesimo! I promise to be around for your phone call tomorrow... I promise.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 02:06:21
Quote by TriSec: Houston?



Ice Station Zebra here.



The TriSec has landed.



Almost 2 hours to go 4 miles. But there was an excuse, the only road that leads to my house had a 5-car accident on it and was entirely shut down. I sat without moving for 45 minutes. There was no way around it.









ick? That sucks massive donkey prong!

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:06:59
Quote by livingonli: Do you feel old yet?


Madonna... yes I, finally feel old.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 02:07:39
Quote by Raine: HEy all... just got back from Dinner... It was Pint night at one of fave Brew pubs. We were watching teh devils Bruins game, and hoohaw, boston is getting slammed!






Did Bobber get double points?? :metal:

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:08:24
Quote by starling310: Holy Jeebus....it took me 1 hour and 45 minutes to drive home.
Jeebers! Well I am glad you got home alright as well. It is nights like tonite that I DO NOT miss.

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:09:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: HEy all... just got back from Dinner... It was Pint night at one of fave Brew pubs. We were watching teh devils Bruins game, and hoohaw, boston is getting slammed!






Did Bobber get double points?? :metal:


LOL! Different place, but we got to sample all the beer we wanted!





Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:11:59
Quote by starling310: Go Rachel! Go Rachel!





talking about infrastructure and how the people in the midwest have been without power for days.

Do you think most people in america even understand what infrastructure is?



Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 02:12:17
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Holy Jeebus....it took me 1 hour and 45 minutes to drive home.
Jeebers! Well I am glad you got home alright as well. It is nights like tonite that I DO NOT miss.




Same here my southern tier sistah!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 02:14:22
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: HEy all... just got back from Dinner... It was Pint night at one of fave Brew pubs. We were watching teh devils Bruins game, and hoohaw, boston is getting slammed!






Did Bobber get double points?? :metal:


LOL! Different place, but we got to sample all the beer we wanted!









Y'all gotcher beer on!



So, have y'all started watching Season Four?



Comment by TriSec on 12/14/2007 02:15:41
Well, this is the first significant snowfall in what, 3 winters around here? Folks forget...



The accident was at a four-way intersection, the entrance to my complex, the main street crossing it, and the entrance to the strip mall with the CVS and Dunk's.



A white cargo van had its entire side stove in, and it looked like it was hit hard enough to be spun around. Another car was on a flatbed, and 3 others with damage were sitting by the side of the road when I finally passed through.



The hell of it is, that is my alternate route down secondary roads. I think I would have been better off had I stuck to Main Street.



:kickcan:



But of course, I am completely insane. Boy Scout Troop 250 has not cancelled this weekend's trip yet, and the Webelos were invited. I was able to find most of my expedition gear and I'm packing as we speak. (Yes, your loyal TriSec is hardcore. A foot of snow and temps in the 20s is mild compared to other trips I've been on, and it is a cabin trip at a local scout camp.)





Comment by Mondobubba on 12/14/2007 02:17:25
gonna power down for a bit

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:21:00
Listenign to Malloy for a little while... he just said that today Wolf blitzer reported that Al gore Blamed the United States for Global Warming... :rage:





NO you , douchebag lead chip eating assface... Al gore NEVER SAID THAT... he said that the United states stands in the way of the progress we need to make to REVERSE THIS TREND... :grumble:

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:22:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine: HEy all... just got back from Dinner... It was Pint night at one of fave Brew pubs. We were watching teh devils Bruins game, and hoohaw, boston is getting slammed!






Did Bobber get double points?? :metal:


LOL! Different place, but we got to sample all the beer we wanted!









Y'all gotcher beer on!



So, have y'all started watching Season Four?



But of course! We will bewatching some more of it later on tonite.

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:24:01
Sounds like a fun weekend ahead Tri! I think youguys should be alright with the weather... (iffin you all are hardcore!)

Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 02:24:55
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Go Rachel! Go Rachel!





talking about infrastructure and how the people in the midwest have been without power for days.

Do you think most people in america even understand what infrastructure is?





Ha! Probably not.



Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:25:44
Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 02:26:32
Keith's top story was the Baseball Steroid thingy. Um, is that important?

"It's cheating blah, blah, blah. . . ." But, seriously.



Comment by TriSec on 12/14/2007 02:28:12
Oh, and I had an epiphany earlier this evening about the magic Mormon underwear..



I have a friend, King Spence of Zarahemla, in the micronational world. He's a Mormon. (and voting for Mitt, alas.)



Danny Ainge of the Boston Celtics is a Mormon. (bet that was fun in the locker room in his playing days.)



Donny and Marie Osmond...'nuff said.



Steve Young, former NFL quaterback (see Danny Ainge)



Butch Cassidy (yes, that one. Magic underpants didn't help him much there, hmm?)



Glenn Beck, Billy Barty, Gladys Knight...



And Medal of Honor Recipient Bernard Fisher (who may have benefitted from said underpants.)





There are more.



Why, the mind just reels!





Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:40:55
heya Tri, How about HArry Reid and ORrin HAtch???





Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 02:41:23
Since I am on break, I am catching a little of Malloy in the nearly empty office area.



I've been working the Bruins-Devils game (the Devils feed on MSG. NESN's master control is up in Beantown).

Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:43:27
Quote by starling310: Keith's top story was the Baseball Steroid thingy. Um, is that important?

"It's cheating blah, blah, blah. . . ." But, seriously.

Yeah I was kinda not happy when they decided to pre-empt the debate today on MSNBC for this scandal. I understand the news is big, but you know,these are millin dollars a year players... and... Well I would much rahter have the news cover the story of the Blackwater and other contractors going thru roid rage in Iraq, from steriod use.





You don't think the f*ckers who raped and held hostage that woman might have been on Roids, do you??



:grumble:



Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:45:19
Quote by livingonli: Since I am on break, I am catching a little of Malloy in the nearly empty office area.



I've been working the Bruins-Devils game (the Devils feed on MSG. NESN's master control is up in Beantown).


Malloy has now said that if people don't start calling in, he may say something that could get him fired... All I have to say, time delay Mike, time delay.



I will be able to listen to him for only a litle while more.. he is REALLY angry tonite... Even for Malloy. :scared:



Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 02:45:34
Yeah, I just don't get why it's the leading story everywhere. Well, i do "get" it; that is the media for ya.

Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 02:46:50
Look at all the air time spent on Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and other tabloid crap, and you see where our media is.

Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 02:48:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Since I am on break, I am catching a little of Malloy in the nearly empty office area.



I've been working the Bruins-Devils game (the Devils feed on MSG. NESN's master control is up in Beantown).


Malloy has now said that if people don't start calling in, he may say something that could get him fired... All I have to say, time delay Mike, time delay.



I will be able to listen to him for only a litle while more.. he is REALLY angry tonite... Even for Malloy. :scared:





Woh. What's he talking about?





Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 02:50:08
Quote by livingonli: Look at all the air time spent on Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and other tabloid crap, and you see where our media is.




I still have to read Assault on Reason. He spends a lot of time on that.



Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 02:50:46
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli: Since I am on break, I am catching a little of Malloy in the nearly empty office area.



I've been working the Bruins-Devils game (the Devils feed on MSG. NESN's master control is up in Beantown).


Malloy has now said that if people don't start calling in, he may say something that could get him fired... All I have to say, time delay Mike, time delay.



I will be able to listen to him for only a litle while more.. he is REALLY angry tonite... Even for Malloy. :scared:





Woh. What's he talking about?







All the attacks on Al Gore and anyone who says Global Warming is real. Especially the right-wing anti-science zealots.



Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 02:59:06
Comment by Raine on 12/14/2007 03:01:39


IT is taken dorectly fromt eh police transcripts... may I quote?



Why thank you...
you have Really, ........{music plays}......really spectacular Boobs........


Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 03:27:10
My friend just bet me a 6 pack that I couldn't hang out with her Dad for a weekend without coming back a Republican! Supposedly his arguments are very convincing.





Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 03:49:42
Quote by starling310: My friend just bet me a 6 pack that I couldn't hang out with her Dad for a weekend without coming back a Republican! Supposedly his arguments are very convincing.





But only a 6 pack for having to listen to all that crap for a whole weekend. I would want money.

Comment by starling310 on 12/14/2007 03:56:00
Having not a dime for a 6 pack of her own,

the Young Starling took the bet

and hoped for the best that Holiday Season.



Comment by livingonli on 12/14/2007 04:07:51
Oh, well. Start drinking. Have a secret stash of Raintinis handy. :martini: