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Libertarian Saturday
Author: TriSec    Date: 07/26/2008 12:57:59

Good Morning!

Plenty of interesting stuff going on. Perhaps you missed it (I know I did), but about two weeks back, Time Magazine featured an article that was generally favorable to Libertarians. Of course, it was heavy on the guns and drugs aspect (as every mainstream story is), but deep in the article was an interesting attempt to define what the party is all about.
The central goal of Libertarianism is hard to disagree with: freedom. Defining it is another matter. Party members I've met often speak of freedom as if it were a phantom limb: you're born with it, but it gets taken from you by the bureaucratic violence of the EPA, the ATF, the DOE, the DEA, the U.N., NCLB, NAFTA and--above all--the IRS. Freedom's restoration is the magic moment when the nanny state melts away and you can see the life you were supposed to live before the tax auditors and environmental regulators and drug warriors all came to rope, brand and pen you in for life with their endless rulemaking and intrusions.

If the freedom that lives in the Libertarian imagination has an earthly home, it is the American West. If it has a temple, it's Nevada. It's not just the low taxes or the libertine veneer of Las Vegas; Nevada is free, I was told, in part because so much of it is populated by an unbroken and unbowed caste of ranchers, miners and homesteaders who believe in the primacy of private property.

As you might guess, things that come between a Nevadan and his land don't sit well, and over the past decade, there's been nothing more disruptive than the environmental movement's good intentions. Nye County rancher Jim Berg, 68, doesn't call himself a Libertarian, but he thinks the GOP has lost its will to keep the government from affecting his livelihood. He has plenty of war stories about his county's showdowns with the Federal Government, including a 1991 standoff when armed federales came to confiscate cattle belonging to a neighboring rancher who had let his herd graze on off-limits federal land. The Forest Service got some of Berg's cattle in the dragnet, auctioned them off and kept the proceeds. "They wanted trouble that day," he says. "Why else would you gather another man's cattle with 25 to 30 armed men?"

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The times...
Author: BobR    Date: 07/25/2008 12:16:20

Come writers and critics who prophesize with your pens
And keep your eyes open, the chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon, the wheel's still in spin
And there's no telling who that it's naming
Oh the loser will be later to win
For the times, they are a changing

Come senators, congressmen, please head the call
Don't stand in the doorway, don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt will be her that has stalled
The battle outside ragging will soon shake your windows
And rattle your hall
For the times, they are a changing

- from The Times They Are a-Changin' by Bob Dylan

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4F... Represent!
Author: Raine    Date: 07/24/2008 15:40:52

We have a lot of members, from all over the country, and even around the world...

We have a VERY important election coming up... we are not just voting for a new president, but for a new House of Representatives, and Senate.

Random, a fellow 4F'r has offered to number crunch things for our members, so, we need to know...

Who is running in your congressional district? Who is running for your state in the Senate Race? Check in, and represent... tell us who you are supporting, so we know how they are doing.

Supply the State and District and any other information you think is important!

Remember... it's not just

it's also


Represent... We will be creating a new links section for all those we are supporting in our local races. The country depends upon it!
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Compare and Contrast.
Author: Raine    Date: 07/24/2008 12:29:13


This is what Barack Obama wrote in the book at Yad-Vashem in Israel. This is the man who will be president of the United States. This is from the man John McCain called a flip-flopper yesterday. Yeah, These are the words written that the McCain campaign, chose to attack Barack Obama for.
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Savage Disregard
Author: clintster    Date: 07/23/2008 12:29:05

A little over four years ago, my wife woke me up at 5 in the morning to tell me her water had broken, and it was time for our baby to be born. I got a few things together in a travel bag and we rushed to the hospital in our little town in Virginia. After 18 hours of labor, our son Ian made his debut in the world, and he was the most beautiful sight we had ever seen.

As our son grew, my wife and I suspected there was something different about him. Though he was developmentally ahead of other children his age in many areas, his speech and social skills seemed to fall farther and farther behind. He would have bursts of anger that would come from nowhere, and seemingly innocuous social interactions seemed to result in biting or hitting. We sought the help of our pediatrician, who advised us that in his opinion Ian had high-functioning autism. My wife and I were a bit stunned by the news, but made arrangements through the county to get him the help he (and we) needed through the school system.
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Ask A Vet
Author: TriSec    Date: 07/22/2008 10:39:18

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,952nd day in Iraq.

We'll start as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra...courtesy of antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4124
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3985
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3663
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3265
Since Election (1/31/05): 2687

Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 558

We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $538, 820, 000, 000.00

We'll be doing something a little different this morning. Among the many podcasts I listen to during the week is a little gem from the CBC called "The Maritimes This Week". It's a collection of the best stories from the Maritime provinces that was broadcast during the week, and it's well worth checking out if you have the slightest interest in Atlantic Canada.

Anyway, last week's podcast featured an extensive segment on a soldier that had been killed in Afghanistan recently. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the story in print....but from Western Canada comes a similar story.

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256 comments (Latest Comment: 07/23/2008 11:52:16 by capt)

John McCain wants to bring back slavery.
Author: Raine    Date: 07/21/2008 12:23:52

On September 11, John McCain will speak at a forum promoting volunteerism..
"The summit will be an important remembrance of those that made the ultimate sacrifice serving their country and others as we focus on how to inspire others to serve causes greater than their own self-interest through national and community service," said McCain...
Now wait a minute.... hold on a second. Does that mean Grampa wants to reinstitute slavery? According to Jonah Goldberg, it would seem so.
There’s a weird irony at work when Sen. Barack Obama, the black presidential candidate who will allegedly scrub the stain of racism from the nation, vows to run afoul of the constitutional amendment that abolished slavery.

For those who don’t remember, the 13th Amendment says: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime … shall exist within the United States.”
And what about that insightful World Net Daily? This is what they had to say about the Obama plan to increase the size of both the Peace and AmeriCorps:
I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military. How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together?

Now, maybe he was misquoted by the Congressional Quarterly and the Chicago Tribune. I guess it's possible. If so, you would think he would want to set the record straight. Maybe he misspoke. That has certainly happened before. Again, why wouldn't the rest of my colleagues show some curiosity about such a major and, frankly, bone-chilling proposition?

Are we talking about creating a police state here?
Ahh... a police state, a future Slave owner... yeah... that's the plan there guys. :rolleyes:

What will they do when they find out McCain is doing the same thing? I am sure, tho, that the likes of Jonah Goldberg and Josef Farah from WND will take their toys, go home and NOT vote for McCain just like another one of their RW leaders, James Dobson, right? They are a principled people these wingers, right... oh.. wait.. This came across the AP yesterday
"I never thought I would hear myself saying this," Dobson said in a radio broadcast to air Monday. "... While I am not endorsing Senator John McCain, the possibility is there that I might."

I think it's great, James Dobson is going to vote for a future slave owner.... Jonah Goldberg said so.

Or... maybe this is another example of McBush parroting Obama's plans for America.

:peace: and :heart:

268 comments (Latest Comment: 07/22/2008 03:59:43 by capt)

Petty, Unimaginative, Misguided Apostates
Author: velveeta jones    Date: 07/20/2008 12:33:08

PUMA. Haven't heard of them? Not really surprised, though they claim to have 18,000,000 of them in their group. No, Velveeta did not make a typo, that's 18 million. And, depending on who you talk to the letters stand either for: Party Unity My Ass or Party United Means Action. What they claim are 18,000,000 voters who plan to get Hillary Clinton elected one way or another. What they really are, may depend from one "PUMA cub” to the next. (Oh, did I forget to mention that they use words like cub, paws, growl, prowl and other “cat” type references throughout their blogs, emails, radio shows and merchandise). My goodness, it doesn't even sound like they are of voting age with all this jargon! The only thing missing is Hello Kitty! cartoons!

Velveeta was alerted to the PUMA phenomenon by Miss Raine's video post and then, using that ingenious "google", found reference to them from this blog. If you go read this blog, you'll see why I just had to run over and see what all the fuss was about. And also why I spent two nights lurking on a silly blog, compromising valuable time which could otherwise be spent on soiree's or relaxing rose petal baths, but I digress.
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Libertarian Saturday
Author: TriSec    Date: 07/19/2008 10:24:25

Good Morning!

I've got to run a bit earlier than usual this morning...the Red Cross has re-done their appointment schedule and now the first one is at 7:30 instead of 8:00, so my apologies if this is a little choppier than usual.

By now you probably heard that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are in a good deal of trouble. There's a bailout on our dime in the works, but of course there's another opinion. Some Libertarians think they should be allowed to fail.
"Let them fail," says Libertarian Party spokesperson Andrew Davis, referring to the mortgage institutions Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, who the Bush administration has said it plans to rescue from financial collapse.

"Let them fail, and let them learn from their mistakes on their own dime," says Davis. "Bailing out these two institutions will only delay the inevitable outcome of any financial firm insulated from the market by government backing. The long run damage of continuing a policy of bailouts far exceeds any short term woes in letting the market consume failing institutions."

The Libertarian Party is calling for an end to government bailouts, which it equates to nothing more than welfare for businessmen. The Party believes that government support of these institutions decreases the incentive to make responsible decisions, and unfairly socializes the risk--putting taxpayers on the line for costly mistakes.

"It's like giving more candy to problem children," says Davis. "Lenders should recognize that there are repercussions for risky loans, and borrowers should realize that there are consequences for taking loans they can't repay. If it's financial collapse, or having your house foreclosed--so be it. It's bad economics to remove the incentives, even if they are negative, which encourage sensible and responsible decisions."

The Party says Freddie and Fannie should be fully independent of government support, and subject to the same levels of market competition other firms face.

"I could not agree more with the editorial page of yesterday's Financial Times when it said that the current structure of these institutions cannot be maintained, and that government should prepare a 'decent burial' for them," says Libertarian Party National Chairman William Redpath. "Freddie and Fannie are not needed for mortgage finance in the United States. No credible commentator thinks that the failure of these two institutions would add even as much as one percentage point over the long-term to mortgage rates. Congress and the President need to quickly move Fannie and Freddie to privatization with no strings attached to the federal government and taxpayer."

I hate to compare myself to any Republican (since the only similarity we generally share is being an air-breathing mammal), but I don't pretend to know anything about economics, so I guess that makes me like Sen. McCain in that regard.

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The Politics of Oil
Author: BobR    Date: 07/18/2008 12:44:09

The Republicans have been screaming lately about how important it is to allow offshore drilling. We buy too much oil from foreign countries, they say. Drilling offshore and in the ANWR would help lower gas prices. It's all about supply and demand.

Oh really?

The last issue is simple enough to address. Is there a gas shortage? There certainly was in the 70's. We had lines at gas stations, and some were running out of gas. After hurricane Katrina disrupted the underground pipes that deliver gas from New Orleans to Atlanta, we experienced a temporary shortage, with long lines at the pumps and prices temporarily spiking.

Have we seen any lines at the pump?.... Seen any gas stations running out?....
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