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Author: TriSec    Date: 10/09/2012 10:24:49

Good Morning.

Today is our 4,020th day in Afghanistan. That is correct; we have entered our twelfth year at war.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,134
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,065

We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:

$ 1, 380,964,400,000 .00


There's an awful lot going on this week, but with an election in the offing, I'll start with the IAVA voter's guide. I try not to be a single-issue voter, but this is one of my leading concerns. It's certainly worth a look.


A major veterans group has issued a election scorecard for its members to use to decide whether candidates for federal office support initiatives important to returning combat veterans.

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, which released the voters’ guide Tuesday, is trying to push candidates to take positions on what the group says are important issues, particularly to post-9/11 veterans. These include employment, education, mental health, disability and benefits claims processing, and female veterans health care.

The scorecard can be downloaded at IAVA.org.

“Our country cannot afford to elect candidates who think a ‘thank you for your service’ is enough,” IAVA founder and executive director Paul Rieckhoff said in a statement. “Every single voter should look for commitment, leadership and transparency on behalf of the 2.5 million veterans of this generation, whether you have served or not.”


With cancer on my mind an awful lot these days, I've run across a couple of disturbing stories...one involving civilians in the US, and the other with our troops overseas. The Home Front is a mind-boggling story from the Cold War; apparently Uncle Sam gave cancer to poor neighborhoods in St. Louis.


In the mid-1950s, and again a decade later, the Army used motorized blowers atop a low-income housing high-rise, at schools and from the backs of station wagons to send a potentially dangerous compound into the already-hazy air in predominantly black areas of St. Louis.

Local officials were told at the time that the government was testing a smoke screen that could shield St. Louis from aerial observation in case the Russians attacked.

But in 1994, the government said the tests were part of a biological weapons program and St. Louis was chosen because it bore some resemblance to Russian cities that the U.S. might attack. The material being sprayed was zinc cadmium sulfide, a fine fluorescent powder.

Now, new research is raising greater concern about the implications of those tests. St. Louis Community College-Meramec sociology professor Lisa Martino-Taylor's research has raised the possibility that the Army performed radiation testing by mixing radioactive particles with the zinc cadmium sulfide, though she concedes there is no direct proof.

But her report, released late last month, was troubling enough that both U.S. senators from Missouri wrote to Army Secretary John McHugh demanding answers.

Aides to Sens. Claire McCaskill and Roy Blunt said they have received no response. Army spokesman Dave Foster declined an interview request from The Associated Press, saying the Army would first respond to the senators.

The area of the secret testing is described by the Army in documents obtained by Martino-Taylor through a Freedom of Information Act request as "a densely populated slum district." About three-quarters of the residents were black.

Spates, now 57 and retired, was born in 1955, delivered inside her family's apartment on the top floor of the since-demolished Pruitt-Igoe housing development in north St. Louis. Her family didn't know that on the roof, the Army was intentionally spewing hundreds of pounds of zinc cadmium sulfide into the air.

Three months after her birth, her father died. Four of her 11 siblings succumbed to cancer at relatively young ages.

"I'm wondering if it got into our system," Spates said. "When I heard about the testing, I thought, 'Oh my God. If they did that, there's no telling what else they're hiding.'"


Although, as a country capable of the Tuskegee Syphillus Experiment, I really shouldn't be that surprised. Alas, our ladies in uniform aren't faring much better. There's been an alarming rise in breast cancer rates among the troops. Some men have been affected too....so it's not entirely organic to the ladies.


If you think breast cancer is just something for your grandmother, mom and aunts to worry about, think again. Not only is breast cancer striking relatively young military women at alarming rates, but male service members, veterans and their dependents are at risk, as well.

With their younger and generally healthier population, those in the military tend to have a lower risk for most cancers than civilians, including significantly lower colorectal, lung and cervical cancer rates in certain groups.

But breast cancer is a different story.

“Military people in general, and in some cases very specifically, are at a significantly greater risk for contracting breast cancer,” says Dr. Richard Clapp, a top cancer expert at Boston University. Clapp, who works for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on military breast cancer issues, says life in the military can mean exposure to a witch’s brew of risk factors directly linked to greater chances of getting breast cancer.

Indeed, in a 2009 study, doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Center found that breast cancer rates among military women are “significantly higher” — that military women are 20 percent to 40 percent more likely to get the disease than other women in the same age groups.

Researchers point to a higher use of oral contraception — also linked to breast cancer — among military women as a possible culprit.

“Military women are also more likely to be engaged in industrial jobs than females in the general population and hence potentially more likely to be exposed to chemicals that may be related to breast cancer,” researchers wrote in the study.


Circling back to the voter's guide I posted earlier....I wonder which candidate is going to make good on getting the troops out of harm's way, and try to make their lives back in the United States easier and healthier?
 

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Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 12:58:15
Romney is already beating the war-drums, so we can pretty much guarantee he would send more troops into harms way, not bring them home.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 13:03:45


Good morning.


Researchers point to a higher use of oral contraception — also linked to breast cancer — among military women as a possible culprit.
This statement is a bit suspect. From Cancer.gov
A recent analysis of data from the Nurses’ Health Study, which has been following more than 116,000 female nurses who were 24 to 43 years old when they enrolled in the study in 1989 (3), found that the participants who used oral contraceptives had a slight increase in breast cancer risk. However, nearly all of the increased risk was seen among women who took a specific type of oral contraceptive, a “triphasic” pill, in which the dose of hormones is changed in three stages over the course of a woman’s monthly cycle.

Because the association with the triphasic formulation was unexpected, more research will be needed to confirm the findings from the Nurses’ Health Study.


I'm not saying there isn't a risk, but I think there is a bit of an overreach here wrt to our military women.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 13:09:59


Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 13:19:22
I posted this on the Book of Faces, but I have to say the Ohio State marching band just upped the bar exponentially

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 13:30:20
Road flare Mary give me a pain behind my eye.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 13:45:50
Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 13:50:26
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 13:51:30
Quote by Raine:
Road flare Mary give me a pain behind my eye.



Thank God I missed her then. Was she her usual hateful self?

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 13:54:48
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Road flare Mary give me a pain behind my eye.



Thank God I missed her then. Was she her usual hateful self?
She was an ass.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 14:00:46
Quote by Raine:



OMG please tell me that's real!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 14:01:23
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Road flare Mary give me a pain behind my eye.



Thank God I missed her then. Was she her usual hateful self?
She was an ass.



good to know fame hasn't gone to her head

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 14:20:18
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Road flare Mary give me a pain behind my eye.



Thank God I missed her then. Was she her usual hateful self?
She was an ass.



good to know fame hasn't gone to her head



Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 14:20:59
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:



OMG please tell me that's real!
It is! It's from the Official OFA youtube channel.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 14:22:42
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:



OMG please tell me that's real!
It is! It's from the Official OFA youtube channel.


Brilliant!


Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 14:24:43
Morning, comrades!



I am so very sorry now to have exposed young Javier to criminal elements on the street...


Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 14:25:13
Quote by BobR:
I posted this on the Book of Faces, but I have to say the Ohio State marching band just upped the bar exponentially
This was Absolutely AWESOME!


Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 14:26:13
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!



I am so very sorry now to have exposed young Javier to criminal elements on the street...
???


Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 14:28:51
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!



I am so very sorry now to have exposed young Javier to criminal elements on the street...
???


Grover was always a bad influence

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 14:33:36
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!



I am so very sorry now to have exposed young Javier to criminal elements on the street...
???


Grover was always a bad influence
AHHH... Well I hung out with street bums living in Garbage cans...


Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 14:41:52
Grover was my favorite.

Those two creepy gay guys though..... < ducks brick >


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2012 14:42:08
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2012 14:50:55
I like Elmo! He has new shoes!

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 15:10:02
The more I hear what Paul Ryan said in his pissy little interview, the more insulted I think I am.

Listen again to what he says about *Inner cities* :


here is the transcript, I'm bolding the part where I take offense. It just comes off as a little Dog whistle-esque:
"But the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, is to help people get out of poverty in the inner cities, is to help teach people good discipline, good character. That is civil society. That's what charities, and civic groups, and churches do to help one another make sure that they can realize the value in one another."





Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 15:15:59
I celebrate the wonk that I do not comprehend.


I prefer Leeroy Jenkins.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2012 15:28:55
Quote by Raine:
I celebrate the wonk that I do not comprehend.


I prefer Leeroy Jenkins.



I barely understand it myself, but it really cool!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2012 15:29:48
Mornin' all..

I've been told we're experiencing 'severe packet loss' today. Or in layman's terms, the internets are teh suck.

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 15:30:47
Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 15:33:34
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

I've been told we're experiencing 'severe packet loss' today. Or in layman's terms, the internets are teh suck.

Someone's got a NIC spewing noise

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 15:40:14
Mr. Sandusky has just been sentenced to 30-60 years.

Not nearly enough, IMHO. When one youth leader strays, he tarnishes all of us in this business.



Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 15:45:45
IN other news, it's unclear what the status of the world-record parachute jump is at the moment. Some sites are pushing their live coverage, but USA Today is reporting the jump is on hold because of weather.

Yes, it's one of the more obscure and esoteric aviation records. I kinda hope he can't do it and Joe Kittinger gets to keep it.



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2012 15:47:46
Quote by TriSec:
IN other news, it's unclear what the status of the world-record parachute jump is at the moment. Some sites are pushing their live coverage, but USA Today is reporting the jump is on hold because of weather.

Yes, it's one of the more obscure and esoteric aviation records. I kinda hope he can't do it and Joe Kittinger gets to keep it.




C'mon admit it. You just want see a guy go SPLAT at about 700 mph. I know I do

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/09/2012 15:50:25
Good morning, bloggers!! TriSec, thanks for a great blog.

I had read the story about what happened in St. Louis and was not surprised, as our government and others have done the same thing before.

As for Sandusky, I believe life without possibility of parole would be appropriate. Mind you, I think that the prison guards will have to keep Sandusky in isolation for his own protection.

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 16:10:19
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Good morning, bloggers!! TriSec, thanks for a great blog.

I had read the story about what happened in St. Louis and was not surprised, as our government and others have done the same thing before.

As for Sandusky, I believe life without possibility of parole would be appropriate. Mind you, I think that the prison guards will have to keep Sandusky in isolation for his own protection.

Considering his age, notoriety, and crime, I believe he will never exit prison as a free living person.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 16:36:54
Air Force bibles going away...

...but that isn't what caught my eye.


The publishing group had similar permissions from the other service branches. Each Bible contains patriotic information, such as the Pledge of Allegiance, but also information customized to each service, such as the prayer of a fighter pilot.


"Dear Lord, don't let me fuck up."



Comment by Scoopster on 10/09/2012 16:43:04


Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 16:47:49
Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 16:51:22



Mitt hates kids apparently.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2012 17:04:21
Good day, folks. Another late night so another day that I feel tired. This has not been helping me find a new place.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 17:15:32
Quote by Scoopster:
and at the same time.


Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 17:28:24
Reposting, as I know few saw it last night.

It's our new blog flagship...a Douglas-built A-20 "Boston". (yeah, I know.)

She's still unnamed...contemplating sticking with "The Maddowan", but "Miss Worcester" is starting to climb up the naming list. It is up for grabs, if anyone comes up with anything better. And yes, that is Worcester Airport I'm flying over here.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/A20overKORH.jpg


Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/09/2012 17:42:02



I guess Mitt may undermine his gain in the polls with some more actions like this.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/09/2012 17:51:47
Quote by Will in Chicago:



I guess Mitt may undermine his gain in the polls with some more actions like this.



Speaking of the polls, Nate Silver has something intellegent to say about them today.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 17:53:35
So Mitt's big FP speech was all about war...

1. The First War: Return to Iraq
2. War number 2: Syria
3. The Third War is with Iran
4. The fourth war is in Afghanistan.
5. The small wars: Intervention in Yemen, Somalia, perhaps even Libya in a ‘war on terror.’


Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 18:10:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



I guess Mitt may undermine his gain in the polls with some more actions like this.



Speaking of the polls, Nate Silver has something intellegent to say about them today.
I REALLY wish Silver would STOP using Gravis Marketing.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 18:19:14
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



I guess Mitt may undermine his gain in the polls with some more actions like this.



Speaking of the polls, Nate Silver has something intellegent to say about them today.
I REALLY wish Silver would STOP using Gravis Marketing.



why? is there something hinky about them?

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 18:21:40
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:



I guess Mitt may undermine his gain in the polls with some more actions like this.


Speaking of the polls, Nate Silver has something intellegent to say about them today.
I REALLY wish Silver would STOP using Gravis Marketing.

Send him an email with a link to the DU post

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 18:22:07
Quote by wickedpam:
why? is there something hinky about them?
I posted this yesterday morning:

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:

DU Exclusive: Gravis Marketing exposed as a fraud

I knew something was up with this firm.
Please take note that it was the GOP that is trying to say the polls are skewed -- the responses in this thread have a tremendous about of extra research.

I hope that NAte Silver and others (TPM as well) STOP using this firm as a polling data source. It's a fraud.

Rassmussen is more reliable than this.




Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 18:23:05
Quote by TriSec:
Reposting, as I know few saw it last night.

It's our new blog flagship...a Douglas-built A-20 "Boston". (yeah, I know.)

She's still unnamed...contemplating sticking with "The Maddowan", but "Miss Worcester" is starting to climb up the naming list. It is up for grabs, if anyone comes up with anything better. And yes, that is Worcester Airport I'm flying over here.

How about "The Eleanor", after the wife of the president whose words name our blog?

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 18:23:13
Quote by BobR:
Send him an email with a link to the DU post
It's been sent.


We ask America is another firm that is being looked at with finer comb.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 18:31:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
why? is there something hinky about them?
I posted this yesterday morning:

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:

DU Exclusive: Gravis Marketing exposed as a fraud

I knew something was up with this firm.
Please take note that it was the GOP that is trying to say the polls are skewed -- the responses in this thread have a tremendous about of extra research.

I hope that NAte Silver and others (TPM as well) STOP using this firm as a polling data source. It's a fraud.

Rassmussen is more reliable than this.





sorry its still a bit on the crazy side around here - missed it

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 18:34:22
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
why? is there something hinky about them?
I posted this yesterday morning:

Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:

DU Exclusive: Gravis Marketing exposed as a fraud

I knew something was up with this firm.
Please take note that it was the GOP that is trying to say the polls are skewed -- the responses in this thread have a tremendous about of extra research.

I hope that NAte Silver and others (TPM as well) STOP using this firm as a polling data source. It's a fraud.

Rassmussen is more reliable than this.





sorry its still a bit on the crazy side around here - missed it


oh wow! Don't feel like I trust any of the numbers out there now. Is electoral-vote.com still safe?


Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 18:52:30
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow! Don't feel like I trust any of the numbers out there now. Is electoral-vote.com still safe?
When the GOP started saying that you can't trust the polls, I felt like it was projection.


Someone else is questioning Gravis here.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 18:55:41
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow! Don't feel like I trust any of the numbers out there now. Is electoral-vote.com still safe?
When the GOP started saying that you can't trust the polls, I felt like it was projection.


Someone else is questioning Gravis here.





Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 18:56:14
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow! Don't feel like I trust any of the numbers out there now. Is electoral-vote.com still safe?
When the GOP started saying that you can't trust the polls, I felt like it was projection.


Someone else is questioning Gravis here.


and in the comments:

Sam Wang Oct 7, 2012 4:14:00 PM
Sam Wang here from the Princeton Election Consortium.

I think that Mr. Kaplan could allay concerns by specifying whether he follows generally accepted principles of polling as described by the American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR), whether he is a member, and where he gets his technical expertise. To my knowledge, reputable pollsters of all stripes, clientwise, do that.





Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 19:03:17
and We Ask America?


The Illinois Manufacturers' Association
According to the IMA website, the association has influenced legislation resulting in corporate tax and sales tax breaks for its members of $300 million annually.[18]

The association reviews bills introduced to the Illinois General Assembly and maintains a Legislative Watch List where it indicates its support or opposition to individual bills.[19] In 2012, the IMA opposed bills that would require health insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, tie the minimum wage to the consumer price index, and provide coverage for maternity care and sick leave.[19] The IMA also supported bills that would release employers from the obligation to pay workers compensation to employees that were discharged for cause, create an Illinois Health Benefits Exchange as part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and amend the Employee Classification Act so that the term "employment" does not apply to truck drivers.[19] In 2010, the IMA advocated tax exemptions for manufacturers.[20]

IMA Vice President Mark Denzler is an employer representative of Illinois' Workers Compensation Advisory Board[21] and has hosted a weekly poker game in his office frequented by state legislators.[22][23]

The Illinois Manufacturers' Association has its own political action committee called Manufacturers PAC or MPAC.[24]

The Illinois Manufacturers' Association owns the for-profit subsidiary Xpress Professional Services, which conducts opinion polls through its polling organization, We Ask America.[25][26] The firm conducts automated polls and has been described as conservative leaning[27] and has received criticism for its methodology.[28][29]


I am very wary of many of these newer polling outlets.

Comment by livingonli on 10/09/2012 19:04:22
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh wow! Don't feel like I trust any of the numbers out there now. Is electoral-vote.com still safe?
When the GOP started saying that you can't trust the polls, I felt like it was projection.


Someone else is questioning Gravis here.

Considering how I am feeling like Brad Friedman with all the reports of voter suppression out there since the GOP has been actively pushing it. With all these question marks, one won't be able to tell if the GOP won the election fair and square or if they stole it. Believe me, my suspicions are leading towards the latter.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 19:12:45
Xpress Professional Service, Inc. ?

Xpress Professional Services, Inc.
220 East Adams St.
Suite 200
Springfield, Illinois 62701
217.522.1257

We Ask America ?
A division of Xpress Professional Services, Inc.
220 East Adams St.
Springfield, Illinois 62701
217.522.1257
Fax: 217.522.2367

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 19:15:54
Quote by Raine:
Xpress Professional Service, Inc. ?

Xpress Professional Services, Inc.
220 East Adams St.
Suite 200
Springfield, Illinois 62701
217.522.1257

We Ask America ?
A division of Xpress Professional Services, Inc.
220 East Adams St.
Springfield, Illinois 62701
217.522.1257
Fax: 217.522.2367


It gets better:

The Illinois Manufacturers' Association

IMA Headquarters
1211 W. 22nd St., Suite 620
Oak Brook, IL 60523
(630) 368-5300
(800) 482-0462
Fax: (630) 218-7467
E-Mail: [email protected]

or

IMA Springfield Office
220 East Adams
Springfield, IL 62701
(217) 522-1240
(800) 875-4462
Fax: (217) 522-2367
E-Mail: [email protected]




Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 19:42:31
Great, all the polling data is bogus now?

I'm-a heading back out on the ledge.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 19:48:58
Quote by TriSec:
Great, all the polling data is bogus now?

I'm-a heading back out on the ledge.


I'll met you there


Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 19:55:33
Maybe I should throw a blog together about this.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 19:56:09
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Great, all the polling data is bogus now?

I'm-a heading back out on the ledge.


I'll met you there

Electoral Vote is still safe. I am writing a blog on this right now.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/09/2012 19:58:41
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
Great, all the polling data is bogus now?

I'm-a heading back out on the ledge.


I'll met you there

Electoral Vote is still safe. I am writing a blog on this right now.


oh thank goodness! A safe haven! A port in the storm!


Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 20:00:51
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

SPLAT!

* pizazz *



Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 20:31:59
This is the DNS registration for XPS:

Registrant:
Xpress Services, Inc.
220 E. Adams
Springfield, IL 62701
United States

Administrative Contact:
Durham, Gregg [email protected]
Xpress Services, Inc.
220 E. Adams
Springfield, IL 62701
United States
+1.2175221240

Technical Contact:
Durham, Gregg [email protected]
Xpress Services, Inc.
220 E. Adams
Springfield, IL 62701
United States
+1.2175221240

the registrations for ima-net.org and weaskamerica.com are hidden via two different registration proxy services


Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 20:33:15
If you check out the Google street view, the building at the address says "Illinois Manufacturer's Association" on it.

Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 20:40:47
This is the story everyone is quoting for the link between the IMA and XPS:
Durham, a former state spokesman who is now chief operating officer of Xpress Professional Services Inc., a for-profit subsidiary of the Illinois Manufacturers’ Association that does things including polling, told me to watch for JASON PLUMMER of Edwardsville to be the GOP nominee for lieutenant governor.

right there in the 2nd paragraph.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 20:46:36
Quote by BobR:
This is the story everyone is quoting for the link between the IMA and XPS:
Durham, a former state spokesman who is now chief operating officer of Xpress Professional Services Inc., a for-profit subsidiary of the Illinois Manufacturers’ Association that does things including polling, told me to watch for JASON PLUMMER of Edwardsville to be the GOP nominee for lieutenant governor.

right there in the 2nd paragraph.
That's what I am going to quote as well.

I hope someone gets a screen capture of this.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/09/2012 22:02:41
Raine, as you are working on a blog on the polling firm, let me share a quote from Mark Twain that he attributed to British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraaeli, who would probably have a lot to say about the election if he were among us:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.


I think that a good question to ask is the interests of a pollster in asking questions. The Illinois Manufacturing Association has a long record of supporting Republicans.

Comment by Raine on 10/09/2012 22:31:15
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Raine, as you are working on a blog on the polling firm, let me share a quote from Mark Twain that he attributed to British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraaeli, who would probably have a lot to say about the election if he were among us:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.


I think that a good question to ask is the interests of a pollster in asking questions. The Illinois Manufacturing Association has a long record of supporting Republicans.
Blog is posted, awaiting my editor to correct my typos.


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