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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 08/27/2013 10:26:11
Good Morning.
Today is our 4,342nd day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,258
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,100
We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
$ 1, 467, 645, 100, 000 .00
So, we seem to be on the road to war again. We've stood idly by before while a despot gassed his own people, but in the 80s it was our 'friend' Saddam Hussein, and I believe there was probably a global commodity involved. However, Syria has no such commodity available on the world market, so it becomes an 'easy' target.
Are we justified in being the world's policeman yet again? Predictably, Russia is comparing this to the
runup to Iraq. They may be right, as despite the UN being on the ground in Syria, there are very few other nations calling for military intervention at this time.
The bigger question, of course, is can a war-weary public possibly support another war? I know there are compelling reasons for intervention (including this alarming story), but is that reason enough?
But it may already be too late. Some are already calling Secretary Kerry's remarks yesterday a war speech, but I suppose only time will tell.
And so we now sit and wait...if and when we do go to war, at least we know it will be swift and decisive, at least in the opening phase. That is something the United States still does well...the question of course, is "How long will it last this time?"
Today is our 4,342nd day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,258
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,100
We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
So, we seem to be on the road to war again. We've stood idly by before while a despot gassed his own people, but in the 80s it was our 'friend' Saddam Hussein, and I believe there was probably a global commodity involved. However, Syria has no such commodity available on the world market, so it becomes an 'easy' target.
Are we justified in being the world's policeman yet again? Predictably, Russia is comparing this to the
runup to Iraq. They may be right, as despite the UN being on the ground in Syria, there are very few other nations calling for military intervention at this time.
The bigger question, of course, is can a war-weary public possibly support another war? I know there are compelling reasons for intervention (including this alarming story), but is that reason enough?
One day in the fall of 2012, Syrian government troops brought a young Free Syrian Army soldier's fiancée, sisters, mother, and female neighbors to the Syrian prison in which he was being held. One by one, he said, they were raped in front of him.
The 18-year-old had been an FSA soldier for less than a month when he was picked up. Crying uncontrollably as he recounted his torture while in detention to a psychiatrist named Yassar Kanawati, he said he suffers from a spinal injury inflicted by his captors. The other men detained with him were all raped, he told the doctor. When Kanawati asked if he, too, was raped, he went silent.
Although most coverage of the Syrian civil war tends to focus on the fighting between the two sides, this war, like most, has a more insidious dimension: rape has been reportedly used widely as a tool of control, intimidation, and humiliation throughout the conflict. And its effects, while not always fatal, are creating a nation of traumatized survivors -- everyone from the direct victims of the attacks to their children, who may have witnessed or been otherwise affected by what has been perpetrated on their relatives.
In September 2012, I was at the United Nations when Norwegian Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide shook up a fluorescent-lit room of bored-looking bureaucrats by saying that what happened during the Bosnian war is "repeating itself right now in Syria." He was referring to the rape of tens of thousands of women in that country in the 1990s.
"With every war and major conflict, as an international community we say 'never again' to mass rape," said Nobel Laureate Jody Williams, who is co-chair of the International Campaign to Stop Rape & Gender Violence in Conflict. [Full disclosure: I'm on the advisory committee of the campaign.] "Yet, in Syria, as countless women are again finding the war waged on their bodies--we are again standing by and wringing our hands."
But it may already be too late. Some are already calling Secretary Kerry's remarks yesterday a war speech, but I suppose only time will tell.
It’s difficult to find a single sentence in Secretary of State John Kerry’s forceful and at points emotional press conference on Syria that did not sound like a direct case for imminent U.S. military action against Syria. It was, from the first paragraph to the 15th, a war speech.
That doesn’t mean that full-on war is coming; the Obama administration appears poised for a limited campaign of offshore strikes, probably cruise missiles and possible aircraft strikes. President Obama has long signaled that he has no interest in a full, open-ended or ground-based intervention, and there’s no reason to believe his calculus has changed. But Kerry’s language and tone were unmistakable. He was making the case for, and signaling that the United States planned to pursue, military action against another country. As my colleagues Karen DeYoung and Anne Gearan wrote, “Kerry left little doubt that the decision for the United States is not whether to take military action, but when.”
Kerry made the moral case for attacking Syria. He described what’s happening in Syria as “the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians, the killing of women and children and innocent bystanders by chemical weapons,” which he called “a moral obscenity” and “inexcusable.”
Kerry made the international norms case for striking Syria. “All peoples and all nations who believe in the cause of our common humanity must stand up to assure that there is accountability for the use of chemical weapons so that it never happens again,” he said. The argument here is that punishing Assad’s use of chemical weapons matters “beyond the conflict in Syria itself,” because the world wants to deter future military actors from using chemical weapons.
Kerry hinted at international coalition-building, saying that he’d spoken “with foreign ministers from around the world.” He later said that “information [about the attack] is being compiled and reviewed together with our partners.”
And so we now sit and wait...if and when we do go to war, at least we know it will be swift and decisive, at least in the opening phase. That is something the United States still does well...the question of course, is "How long will it last this time?"
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Comment by 
Raine on 08/27/2013 11:34:04
Good morning.
I'm really worried about Syria. Really worried. It's more apt to compare it to what happened in Bosnia rather than Iraq. That said -- maybe we should stop comparing everything. I said to Bob the other day that thanks to the illegal war we called Iraq -- the idea of has been tainted forever for any possible *conflict* --
What do we do? Do we do nothing and watch genocide happen as we have in Darfur, and Rwanda? Or do we risk everything only to se the same results as we did in Somalia?
I'm not a pacifist -- I don't beat the drums for war either. This situation isn't black and white but thanks to the previous administrations recklessness people can only see it that way.
People are claiming that this is a false flag operation -- I've seen *curveball* thrown around as though this administration is going into this the same way as Bush did with Iraq. I cannot believe for the life of me that President Obama, who is trying to draw down troops in two other conflicts would willy nilly commit our already exhausted military to Syria unless there was a damn good reason to.
Rape and Chemical weapons are reasons to end what is happening in Syria. These are very serious violations of the Geneva convention. They are war crimes.
I hope we can see a Dayton type solution sooner rather than later.
Raine on 08/27/2013 11:34:04
Good morning. I'm really worried about Syria. Really worried. It's more apt to compare it to what happened in Bosnia rather than Iraq. That said -- maybe we should stop comparing everything. I said to Bob the other day that thanks to the illegal war we called Iraq -- the idea of has been tainted forever for any possible *conflict* --
What do we do? Do we do nothing and watch genocide happen as we have in Darfur, and Rwanda? Or do we risk everything only to se the same results as we did in Somalia?
I'm not a pacifist -- I don't beat the drums for war either. This situation isn't black and white but thanks to the previous administrations recklessness people can only see it that way.
People are claiming that this is a false flag operation -- I've seen *curveball* thrown around as though this administration is going into this the same way as Bush did with Iraq. I cannot believe for the life of me that President Obama, who is trying to draw down troops in two other conflicts would willy nilly commit our already exhausted military to Syria unless there was a damn good reason to.
Rape and Chemical weapons are reasons to end what is happening in Syria. These are very serious violations of the Geneva convention. They are war crimes.
I hope we can see a Dayton type solution sooner rather than later.
Comment by 
BobR on 08/27/2013 12:37:45
BobR on 08/27/2013 12:37:45
Power-hungry maniacs with military weapons - the world's worst nightmare.
I don't think I could add any commentary better than Raine's
I don't think I could add any commentary better than Raine's
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 13:11:59
Raine on 08/27/2013 13:11:59
I don't know if anyone has read about this, but the President is declassifying and releasing a report to justify a strike on Syria.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 13:16:08
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 13:16:08
Morning!
I'm staying home today and listening to the show.
Also, since I thoroughly cleaned my shed on Sunday, I shall commence to my Attic/extra space and attempt to do the same. Could be messy....
I'm staying home today and listening to the show.
Also, since I thoroughly cleaned my shed on Sunday, I shall commence to my Attic/extra space and attempt to do the same. Could be messy....
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 13:19:00
to the caller.
Raine on 08/27/2013 13:19:00
to the caller.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 08/27/2013 13:21:59
Scoopster on 08/27/2013 13:21:59
Mornin' all.. 
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 13:27:41
Raine on 08/27/2013 13:27:41
The bottom line: The Bush years have discredited rightful outrage concerning WMDs.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 13:29:10
Raine on 08/27/2013 13:29:10
See? This caller is is calling Syria False flag -- Christ. Why not just say Obama used tear gas to start war? 
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 13:35:00
Raine thank you for this. I've been trying to articulate my feelings on this and you've hit the nail on the head. Well done.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 13:35:00
Quote by Raine:
I'm really worried about Syria. Really worried. It's more apt to compare it to what happened in Bosnia rather than Iraq. That said -- maybe we should stop comparing everything. I said to Bob the other day that thanks to the illegal war we called Iraq -- the idea of has been tainted forever for any possible *conflict* --
What do we do? Do we do nothing and watch genocide happen as we have in Darfur, and Rwanda? Or do we risk everything only to se the same results as we did in Somalia?
I'm not a pacifist -- I don't beat the drums for war either. This situation isn't black and white but thanks to the previous administrations recklessness people can only see it that way.
People are claiming that this is a false flag operation -- I've seen *curveball* thrown around as though this administration is going into this the same way as Bush did with Iraq. I cannot believe for the life of me that President Obama, who is trying to draw down troops in two other conflicts would willy nilly commit our already exhausted military to Syria unless there was a damn good reason to.
Rape and Chemical weapons are reasons to end what is happening in Syria. These are very serious violations of the Geneva convention. They are war crimes.
I hope we can see a Dayton type solution sooner rather than later.
Raine thank you for this. I've been trying to articulate my feelings on this and you've hit the nail on the head. Well done.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 13:40:08
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 13:40:08
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 13:42:29
WHAT? Obama used the tear gas to start a war?
(See, this is how this shit gets started. hahahaha)
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 13:42:29
Quote by Raine:
See? This caller is is calling Syria False flag -- Christ. Why not just say Obama used tear gas to start war?
WHAT? Obama used the tear gas to start a war?
(See, this is how this shit gets started. hahahaha)
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 13:46:38
Why does everyone talk about this really bad dancing and not the horrible song itself which is about rape, or a least the "blurred lines" of consent? Not to mention that the music is right off STOLEN from Marvin Gaye. Miley Cyrus can't dance because she doesn't understand dance except what she learned from Disney. The dancers behind her are the ones that should be front and center.
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 13:46:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
Why does everyone talk about this really bad dancing and not the horrible song itself which is about rape, or a least the "blurred lines" of consent? Not to mention that the music is right off STOLEN from Marvin Gaye. Miley Cyrus can't dance because she doesn't understand dance except what she learned from Disney. The dancers behind her are the ones that should be front and center.
Comment by BobR on 08/27/2013 13:57:48
BobR on 08/27/2013 13:57:48
btw...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY VELVEETA!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 14:01:00
Oh thank you! That explains the smell of cake baking in the kitchen.........
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 14:01:00
Quote by BobR:
btw...HAPPY BIRTHDAY VELVEETA!!
Oh thank you! That explains the smell of cake baking in the kitchen.........
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 14:03:01
YES! Happy Birthday Ms. Jones. I love you!
Raine on 08/27/2013 14:03:01
Quote by BobR:
btw...HAPPY BIRTHDAY VELVEETA!!
Comment by BobR on 08/27/2013 14:05:12
even lighter... LOL: Who wore it better?
BobR on 08/27/2013 14:05:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
even lighter... LOL: Who wore it better?
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 14:05:25
Raine on 08/27/2013 14:05:25
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Mondobubba:
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
Why does everyone talk about this really bad dancing and not the horrible song itself which is about rape, or a least the "blurred lines" of consent? Not to mention that the music is right off STOLEN from Marvin Gaye. Miley Cyrus can't dance because she doesn't understand dance except what she learned from Disney. The dancers behind her are the ones that should be front and center.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 14:06:09
Raine on 08/27/2013 14:06:09
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
even lighter... LOL: Who wore it better?
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:08:14
Yay! My almost birthday sistah!
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:08:14
Quote by BobR:
btw...HAPPY BIRTHDAY VELVEETA!!
Yay! My almost birthday sistah!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:08:49
That is just cruel.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:08:49
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
even lighter... LOL: Who wore it better?
That is just cruel.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:11:22
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:11:22
Velveeta, do you have a Google account? Sign into if you do 
Comment by 
clintster on 08/27/2013 14:13:59
clintster on 08/27/2013 14:13:59
Happy birthday Velveeta!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:33:56
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 14:33:56
When you sign into your Google account on your birthday, there's a happy birthday Google doodle. I welcome our Google overlords.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 14:42:35
Raine on 08/27/2013 14:42:35
August 18, 2011: President Obama DID call for Assad to step down. So to assume this isn't about regime change, one might not be correct.
We would not be considering this 2 years later is rape and chemical weapons had not been used as a tool of war. Everyone keeps mentioning CW -- but the story that Tri brought up in today just absolutely horrifies me.
We would not be considering this 2 years later is rape and chemical weapons had not been used as a tool of war. Everyone keeps mentioning CW -- but the story that Tri brought up in today just absolutely horrifies me.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 14:42:54
Cutting the cable and going OTA / Netflix means I don't even have to waste firing one synapse to decide whether to subject myself to trash like this or worry that my TiVo might accidentally record it as a "suggestion".
Looking at that picture reinforced the wisdom of my decision.
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 14:42:54
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
And now, a thoughtful deconstruction of Miley Cyrus at the VMA from the NYT.
Yes we need to lighten up for a moment.
even lighter... LOL: Who wore it better?
That is just cruel.
Cutting the cable and going OTA / Netflix means I don't even have to waste firing one synapse to decide whether to subject myself to trash like this or worry that my TiVo might accidentally record it as a "suggestion".
Looking at that picture reinforced the wisdom of my decision.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 14:52:49
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 14:52:49
Hey, World Nut Daily just opened an "Impeachment Store"
No, I'm not giving them the satisfaction of a page click to see what's going on..
No, I'm not giving them the satisfaction of a page click to see what's going on..
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 15:29:42
yes, I do and I am. Unless you mean Google + which I never look at. zzzzzzz
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 15:29:42
Quote by Mondobubba:
Velveeta, do you have a Google account? Sign into if you do
yes, I do and I am. Unless you mean Google + which I never look at. zzzzzzz
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 15:31:36
Ohh, hahahaha. Only if you tell them your actual birthday. I don't give out personal info on almost anything any longer. I make up shit every where I go.
velveeta jones on 08/27/2013 15:31:36
Quote by Mondobubba:
When you sign into your Google account on your birthday, there's a happy birthday Google doodle. I welcome our Google overlords.
Ohh, hahahaha. Only if you tell them your actual birthday. I don't give out personal info on almost anything any longer. I make up shit every where I go.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 15:33:23
When you sign in, if you listed your birthday in G +, the special birthday doodle will appear on the Google home screen.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 15:33:23
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Mondobubba:
Velveeta, do you have a Google account? Sign into if you do
yes, I do and I am. Unless you mean Google + which I never look at. zzzzzzz
When you sign in, if you listed your birthday in G +, the special birthday doodle will appear on the Google home screen.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 15:47:34
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 15:47:34
Hmmm. On a staycation this week. Honda's in the shop today to check a front end problem that's chewing up one of the tires.
Of course, I can't recreate the noise that it makes for the mechanic, though it made all sorts of noise going into his parking lot because it's gravel. Maybe he'll hear it then.
On my last birthday I was getting Happy Birthday messages from forums I hadn't been to in a long time. I forgot I was even members of some of them.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY VELVEETA
Of course, I can't recreate the noise that it makes for the mechanic, though it made all sorts of noise going into his parking lot because it's gravel. Maybe he'll hear it then.
On my last birthday I was getting Happy Birthday messages from forums I hadn't been to in a long time. I forgot I was even members of some of them.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY VELVEETA
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 16:04:43
Raine on 08/27/2013 16:04:43
What in the ever loving fresh hell is this? Laura Ingraham Plays Gunfire Sounds During John Lewis' Washington March Speech?
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 16:09:55
The Shit happens at about 4:25 
Raine on 08/27/2013 16:09:55
Quote by Raine:
What in the ever loving fresh hell is this? Laura Ingraham Plays Gunfire Sounds During John Lewis' Washington March Speech?
Comment by 
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 16:29:28
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 16:29:28
Seriously! 3.5 hours later and the problem that got dumped on me to fix still isn't resolved and...AND it looks like my system has to be rebuilt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All because someone in this company doesn't know NOT KNOW HOW TO NOT LET VIRUSES GET ON THEIR COMPUTER AND INFECTED THE SHARED FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/27/2013 16:31:11
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 16:31:11
Afternoon
sorry for the rant
sorry for the rant
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 16:59:49
Laura Ingramham is a horrible, horrible excuse for a human.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 16:59:49
Quote by Raine:
What in the ever loving fresh hell is this? Laura Ingraham Plays Gunfire Sounds During John Lewis' Washington March Speech?
Laura Ingramham is a horrible, horrible excuse for a human.
Comment by Scoopster on 08/27/2013 17:08:33
Could she be any more childish?
Scoopster on 08/27/2013 17:08:33
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
What in the ever loving fresh hell is this? Laura Ingraham Plays Gunfire Sounds During John Lewis' Washington March Speech?
Laura Ingramham is a horrible, horrible excuse for a human.
Could she be any more childish?
Comment by Scoopster on 08/27/2013 17:08:58
Scoopster on 08/27/2013 17:08:58
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 17:35:31
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 17:35:31
Rest in Peace, Neil Armstrong :(
Comment by BobR on 08/27/2013 17:36:17
Do they not mandate virus protection software on all PCs in the office? They should - it's cheap insurance.
BobR on 08/27/2013 17:36:17
Quote by wickedpam:
Seriously! 3.5 hours later and the problem that got dumped on me to fix still isn't resolved and...AND it looks like my system has to be rebuilt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All because someone in this company doesn't know NOT KNOW HOW TO NOT LET VIRUSES GET ON THEIR COMPUTER AND INFECTED THE SHARED FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do they not mandate virus protection software on all PCs in the office? They should - it's cheap insurance.
Comment by BobR on 08/27/2013 17:37:29
what??
BobR on 08/27/2013 17:37:29
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Rest in Peace, Neil Armstrong :(
what??
Comment by 
livingonli on 08/27/2013 17:37:51
livingonli on 08/27/2013 17:37:51
Good day, folks. Got home late from work last night so I just crashed out on the bed when I got home with kitty keeping me company for awhile although I think she went outside again.
Pap is filling in for Thom Hartmann. It seems like he never really takes vacation though.
As for Syria, there have also been reports that the rebels have used chemical weapons and the strongest part of the rebels have ties to Al-Qaeda which makes intervention in Syria the possibility of replacing one devil with another.
Pap is filling in for Thom Hartmann. It seems like he never really takes vacation though.
As for Syria, there have also been reports that the rebels have used chemical weapons and the strongest part of the rebels have ties to Al-Qaeda which makes intervention in Syria the possibility of replacing one devil with another.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 17:52:11
Thought something seemed funny. I had thought he already died. Oh well, I iz idiot.
Anyway, hope he's still resting in peace.
The computer gods got back at me by crashing Firefox.
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 17:52:11
Quote by TriSec:
Erm, did somebody swallow the hook?
Thought something seemed funny. I had thought he already died. Oh well, I iz idiot.
Anyway, hope he's still resting in peace.
The computer gods got back at me by crashing Firefox.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 17:53:00
He died last year.
Raine on 08/27/2013 17:53:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
Rest in Peace, Neil Armstrong :(
what??
He died last year.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 17:53:45
You: Not an idiot.
ABC however...
Raine on 08/27/2013 17:53:45
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by TriSec:
Erm, did somebody swallow the hook?
Thought something seemed funny. I had thought he already died. Oh well, I iz idiot.
ABC however...
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 17:57:55
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 17:57:55
Iraq War veteran and his service dog kicked out of restaurant by defiant owner
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
and not the happy dancing kind.
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
and not the happy dancing kind.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 17:58:45
Raine on 08/27/2013 17:58:45
Well this is news, Tri, Rabbit -- is this breaking news for you guys as well?
The Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant will shut down by the end of next year, according to an announcement on Tuesday by Entergy Corp., the Louisiana company that has battled the state to keep operating the problem-plagued, aging reactor. “I am delighted that Entergy will shut down the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant which has had so many problems in recent years. There is a strong desire on the part of the people of the state of Vermont to close the plant that was scheduled to operate for only 40 years,†Sen. Bernie Sanders said.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 17:59:47
Scoop, the are easy to whip into a frenzy.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 17:59:47
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah.. must be a slow news day if this is making headlines..
Scoop, the are easy to whip into a frenzy.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:04:11
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:04:11
Scoop this is the average right winger when he is whipped into frenzy.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/27/2013 18:14:20
They do, we all had it but one person in the company decided to keep hitting the "YES" button when he got a pop-up saying he had malware (its the same virus that's been going around for years now). So it got into the shared files and into all our computers and some how VIPRE got disabled and the computer mgr had to take off VIPRE and reinstall it on all the computers.
Well it wouldn't reload on 3 computers (1 being mine) on Friday. So instead of staying a fixing it, she decided that we could fix it ourselves on Monday since she was going on vacation. Turns out Monday the guy was not in the office and I had to wait till today. Then after 3.5 hours he tells me VIPRE wouldn't load fully and he needs to investigate why but he can't do it right now cause he has a meeting elsewhere.
Now I'm gonna have to wait till Tuesday to get this resolved by possibly having my system rebuilt. I'm not even sure what that means but I'm not happy about it.
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 18:14:20
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Seriously! 3.5 hours later and the problem that got dumped on me to fix still isn't resolved and...AND it looks like my system has to be rebuilt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All because someone in this company doesn't know NOT KNOW HOW TO NOT LET VIRUSES GET ON THEIR COMPUTER AND INFECTED THE SHARED FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do they not mandate virus protection software on all PCs in the office? They should - it's cheap insurance.
They do, we all had it but one person in the company decided to keep hitting the "YES" button when he got a pop-up saying he had malware (its the same virus that's been going around for years now). So it got into the shared files and into all our computers and some how VIPRE got disabled and the computer mgr had to take off VIPRE and reinstall it on all the computers.
Well it wouldn't reload on 3 computers (1 being mine) on Friday. So instead of staying a fixing it, she decided that we could fix it ourselves on Monday since she was going on vacation. Turns out Monday the guy was not in the office and I had to wait till today. Then after 3.5 hours he tells me VIPRE wouldn't load fully and he needs to investigate why but he can't do it right now cause he has a meeting elsewhere.
Now I'm gonna have to wait till Tuesday to get this resolved by possibly having my system rebuilt. I'm not even sure what that means but I'm not happy about it.
Comment by 
TriSec on 08/27/2013 18:26:43
Oh, and google his restaraunt now and read the flurry of negative comments on all the public rating sites. (like Yelp! n' such.) THere's also a number of boycotts and events planned for his front lawn.
He should be out of business by the end of the year. asshat.
TriSec on 08/27/2013 18:26:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
Iraq War veteran and his service dog kicked out of restaurant by defiant owner
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
Oh, and google his restaraunt now and read the flurry of negative comments on all the public rating sites. (like Yelp! n' such.) THere's also a number of boycotts and events planned for his front lawn.
He should be out of business by the end of the year. asshat.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/27/2013 18:35:27
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 18:35:27
Forgot!
Happy Birthday Vel!!!!!!
Happy Birthday Vel!!!!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:38:48
I like how once he's proven wrong, he will apologize, but he still won't let the dog in the joint. Serves him right if he's driven out of business.
Where is Oxford anyway, Tri?
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:38:48
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Iraq War veteran and his service dog kicked out of restaurant by defiant owner
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
Oh, and google his restaraunt now and read the flurry of negative comments on all the public rating sites. (like Yelp! n' such.) THere's also a number of boycotts and events planned for his front lawn.
He should be out of business by the end of the year. asshat.
I like how once he's proven wrong, he will apologize, but he still won't let the dog in the joint. Serves him right if he's driven out of business.
Where is Oxford anyway, Tri?
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:45:09
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:45:09
Ah I see Oxfadh isn't that far from Woostah.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:54:11
Scoop, I clicked the link about Eric Bolling be a sworn enemy of the Muppets. The article is hilarious!
< Right wing frenzy.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 18:54:11
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah.. must be a slow news day if this is making headlines..
Scoop, I clicked the link about Eric Bolling be a sworn enemy of the Muppets. The article is hilarious!
< Right wing frenzy.
Comment by TriSec on 08/27/2013 18:59:53
TriSec on 08/27/2013 18:59:53
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 19:04:19
Saw that this morning.
Interesting that part of the reason for the closure is due to the lowering of natural gas prices (thanks to fracking, I imagine) that now make operation of Yankee uncompetitive.
Gas ain't gonna be cheap forever.....
I generally support nuclear, but the reactor has gone past the end of its designed life. Time to shut it down.
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 19:04:19
Quote by Raine:
Well this is news, Tri, Rabbit -- is this breaking news for you guys as well?The Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant will shut down by the end of next year, according to an announcement on Tuesday by Entergy Corp., the Louisiana company that has battled the state to keep operating the problem-plagued, aging reactor. “I am delighted that Entergy will shut down the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant which has had so many problems in recent years. There is a strong desire on the part of the people of the state of Vermont to close the plant that was scheduled to operate for only 40 years,†Sen. Bernie Sanders said.
Saw that this morning.
Interesting that part of the reason for the closure is due to the lowering of natural gas prices (thanks to fracking, I imagine) that now make operation of Yankee uncompetitive.
Gas ain't gonna be cheap forever.....
I generally support nuclear, but the reactor has gone past the end of its designed life. Time to shut it down.
Comment by TriSec on 08/27/2013 19:05:59
TriSec on 08/27/2013 19:05:59
American land
Where brave soldiers and their dogs
Protect rights of pricks.
Where brave soldiers and their dogs
Protect rights of pricks.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 19:12:45
There was a mention that the vet was not restraining the dog so the dog wandered around the restaurant. In addition the vet was allowing the dog to eat out of his plate.
IF that's true, I suppose the Board of Health would not look kindly on that. Still, it sounds like the owner is acting like a total asshat.
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 19:12:45
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Iraq War veteran and his service dog kicked out of restaurant by defiant owner
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
Oh, and google his restaraunt now and read the flurry of negative comments on all the public rating sites. (like Yelp! n' such.) THere's also a number of boycotts and events planned for his front lawn.
He should be out of business by the end of the year. asshat.
I like how once he's proven wrong, he will apologize, but he still won't let the dog in the joint. Serves him right if he's driven out of business.
Where is Oxford anyway, Tri?
There was a mention that the vet was not restraining the dog so the dog wandered around the restaurant. In addition the vet was allowing the dog to eat out of his plate.
IF that's true, I suppose the Board of Health would not look kindly on that. Still, it sounds like the owner is acting like a total asshat.
Comment by Scoopster on 08/27/2013 19:33:14
Scoopster on 08/27/2013 19:33:14
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 19:54:08
This is something that maybe someone above you should know? Does said Computer manager have a superior?
Raine on 08/27/2013 19:54:08
Quote by wickedpam:
Well it wouldn't reload on 3 computers (1 being mine) on Friday. So instead of staying a fixing it, she decided that we could fix it ourselves on Monday since she was going on vacation. Turns out Monday the guy was not in the office and I had to wait till today. Then after 3.5 hours he tells me VIPRE wouldn't load fully and he needs to investigate why but he can't do it right now cause he has a meeting elsewhere.
This is something that maybe someone above you should know? Does said Computer manager have a superior?
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:04:53
Is this a well known establishment?
The owner is why there is a bumper sticker called "mean people suck" -- he sucks.
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:04:53
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Iraq War veteran and his service dog kicked out of restaurant by defiant owner
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
Oh, and google his restaraunt now and read the flurry of negative comments on all the public rating sites. (like Yelp! n' such.) THere's also a number of boycotts and events planned for his front lawn.
He should be out of business by the end of the year. asshat.
The owner is why there is a bumper sticker called "mean people suck" -- he sucks.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:06:44
Yes, Agreed. They are fighting that same issue with Indian point in the Hudson Valley --
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:06:44
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Saw that this morning.
Interesting that part of the reason for the closure is due to the lowering of natural gas prices (thanks to fracking, I imagine) that now make operation of Yankee uncompetitive.
Gas ain't gonna be cheap forever.....
I generally support nuclear, but the reactor has gone past the end of its designed life. Time to shut it down.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/27/2013 20:12:48
yes, the pres who's also one of the 3 - thing is - she's got him snowed that she actually knows stuff
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 20:12:48
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Well it wouldn't reload on 3 computers (1 being mine) on Friday. So instead of staying a fixing it, she decided that we could fix it ourselves on Monday since she was going on vacation. Turns out Monday the guy was not in the office and I had to wait till today. Then after 3.5 hours he tells me VIPRE wouldn't load fully and he needs to investigate why but he can't do it right now cause he has a meeting elsewhere.
This is something that maybe someone above you should know? Does said Computer manager have a superior?
yes, the pres who's also one of the 3 - thing is - she's got him snowed that she actually knows stuff
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:13:52
Going by the interview they had at the link, wouldn't the LEO they interviewed have made mention of it? He seemed to indicate that the owner would have nothing of the dog.
The reporter did try to reach out to this I-Guy and he refused to comment -- he could have cleared this up, if this were the case, I think.
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:13:52
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Iraq War veteran and his service dog kicked out of restaurant by defiant owner
The owner of Big I's in Oxford, MA. is a
Oh, and google his restaraunt now and read the flurry of negative comments on all the public rating sites. (like Yelp! n' such.) THere's also a number of boycotts and events planned for his front lawn.
He should be out of business by the end of the year. asshat.
I like how once he's proven wrong, he will apologize, but he still won't let the dog in the joint. Serves him right if he's driven out of business.
Where is Oxford anyway, Tri?
There was a mention that the vet was not restraining the dog so the dog wandered around the restaurant. In addition the vet was allowing the dog to eat out of his plate.
IF that's true, I suppose the Board of Health would not look kindly on that. Still, it sounds like the owner is acting like a total asshat.
The reporter did try to reach out to this I-Guy and he refused to comment -- he could have cleared this up, if this were the case, I think.
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:16:57
Ok, then why did the office manager tell everyone to do this themselves? (I think you might see where I am getting)
If you can. I would somehow get Prezzy to understand that this person chose to go on vacation instead of staying and fixing it -- or saying I can't fix it before I go away -- Does that make sense? I hope the Prezzy is as upset as you.
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:16:57
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Well it wouldn't reload on 3 computers (1 being mine) on Friday. So instead of staying a fixing it, she decided that we could fix it ourselves on Monday since she was going on vacation. Turns out Monday the guy was not in the office and I had to wait till today. Then after 3.5 hours he tells me VIPRE wouldn't load fully and he needs to investigate why but he can't do it right now cause he has a meeting elsewhere.
This is something that maybe someone above you should know? Does said Computer manager have a superior?
yes, the pres who's also one of the 3 - thing is - she's got him snowed that she actually knows stuff
Ok, then why did the office manager tell everyone to do this themselves? (I think you might see where I am getting)
If you can. I would somehow get Prezzy to understand that this person chose to go on vacation instead of staying and fixing it -- or saying I can't fix it before I go away -- Does that make sense? I hope the Prezzy is as upset as you.
Comment by TriSec on 08/27/2013 20:20:23
TriSec on 08/27/2013 20:20:23
Like the good Dr. Maddow says...support your local newspaper.
The best account I've found all day about the diner incident.
Courtesy of the Worcester Telegram.
The best account I've found all day about the diner incident.
Courtesy of the Worcester Telegram.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:21:21
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:21:21
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:21:31
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:21:31
You know... as a side note, between Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift -- I'm finding myself feeling more and more sympathetic to Kanye West.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/27/2013 20:25:41
cause the office mgr and computer mgr are the same person - she told him directly before she left and he was like "ok" - I know, its f-ed up.
Nah, he's not mad at me. They all know I have no control over anything, kind of at the mercy of all the managers from every department sadly.
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 20:25:41
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Well it wouldn't reload on 3 computers (1 being mine) on Friday. So instead of staying a fixing it, she decided that we could fix it ourselves on Monday since she was going on vacation. Turns out Monday the guy was not in the office and I had to wait till today. Then after 3.5 hours he tells me VIPRE wouldn't load fully and he needs to investigate why but he can't do it right now cause he has a meeting elsewhere.
This is something that maybe someone above you should know? Does said Computer manager have a superior?
yes, the pres who's also one of the 3 - thing is - she's got him snowed that she actually knows stuff
Ok, then why did the office manager tell everyone to do this themselves? (I think you might see where I am getting)
If you can. I would somehow get Prezzy to understand that this person chose to go on vacation instead of staying and fixing it -- or saying I can't fix it before I go away -- Does that make sense? I hope the Prezzy is as upset as you.
cause the office mgr and computer mgr are the same person - she told him directly before she left and he was like "ok" - I know, its f-ed up.
Nah, he's not mad at me. They all know I have no control over anything, kind of at the mercy of all the managers from every department sadly.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:26:27
See my comment below about the location of Oxfardh vis a vie Woostah.
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:26:27
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Where is Oxford anyway, Tri?
Due south of Worcester on Route 395.
See my comment below about the location of Oxfardh vis a vie Woostah.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/27/2013 20:27:05
don't do that he's doesn't deserve it
wickedpam on 08/27/2013 20:27:05
Quote by Raine:
You know... as a side note, between Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift -- I'm finding myself feeling more and more sympathetic to Kanye West.
don't do that he's doesn't deserve it
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:32:27
Well you know we support our local paper. 
I found this interesting: Even after he was shown the papers, after the police explained to him that this was a service dog -- he still contends that it didn't fit his view of what a service dog is supposed to be?
I dunno, This Person can say he is pro-vet all he wants it doesn't seem like he really cared enough to try to understand while in the moment. There is more to supporting vets than waiving a flag and giving them discounts on a check, ya know?
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:32:27
Quote by TriSec:
Like the good Dr. Maddow says...support your local newspaper.
The best account I've found all day about the diner incident.
Courtesy of the Worcester Telegram.
I found this interesting:
Mr. Ireland said James Glaser and his small dog had been into the Main Street restaurant before and he'd been told the dog was a service dog, but he found it hard to believe.
"It didn't look like a therapy dog," Mr. Ireland said. "It just looked like a regular mutt."
The dog also didn't act like the handful of other service dogs who have accompanied vision-impaired or otherwise handicapped people into the eatery, Mr. Glaser said.
"Most of those dogs? They just lay down on the floor and you don't even know they're there," he said.
I dunno, This Person can say he is pro-vet all he wants it doesn't seem like he really cared enough to try to understand while in the moment. There is more to supporting vets than waiving a flag and giving them discounts on a check, ya know?
Comment by livingonli on 08/27/2013 20:33:44
livingonli on 08/27/2013 20:33:44
Shane-O is doing the Top and Bottom of the hour updates on the Free Speech TV simulcast of Thom Hartmann.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:43:00
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:43:00
You really want to get back Russell Ireland? Donate money to Train a Dog, Save a Warrior in his name.
This is the outfit that paired James Glaser with his his dog. They are doing good work.
This is the outfit that paired James Glaser with his his dog. They are doing good work.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:51:32
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 20:51:32
Not only does TADSAW help vets with PTSD their dogs are mostly rescues.
The more I read about them, the more I like them. Attitude about people in Texas shifting slightly...
The more I read about them, the more I like them. Attitude about people in Texas shifting slightly...
Comment by Raine on 08/27/2013 20:52:47
I take some issue with this.'m going to have to think on it. I agree with most of it. I;m not sure I agree with this: Bold face mine. What liberals is she speaking of? Who co-opted?
I'll be honest, the last few days I have been wondering and contemplating the idea of the liberal cause and MLK Jr. -- I have much more contemplating to do. I'm still contemplated the Zirin article that bob linked to yesterday.
one thing I agree with is this: Cutting off John Lewis’ speech with a gunshot recalls how assassination has silenced so many civil rights leaders
One of those songwriters I tend to appreciate once sang: "you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Raine on 08/27/2013 20:52:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Raine, this is what Joan Walsh has to say about La Ingraham.
Actually, Ingraham is so wrong, she’s sort of right. Liberals did co-opt King’s radical, anti-corporate and antiwar agenda long ago. The King we commemorate today is a friendly shadow of his challenging, radical, visionary self. (Read Harold Meyerson on “The Socialists Who Made the March on Washington,†for a necessary corrective.)
I'll be honest, the last few days I have been wondering and contemplating the idea of the liberal cause and MLK Jr. -- I have much more contemplating to do. I'm still contemplated the Zirin article that bob linked to yesterday.
one thing I agree with is this: Cutting off John Lewis’ speech with a gunshot recalls how assassination has silenced so many civil rights leaders
One of those songwriters I tend to appreciate once sang: "you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 21:34:29
Mondobubba on 08/27/2013 21:34:29
The University of Texas- San Antonio are being dicks about a vet and her service dog too.
The vet in question has a poodle, not your typical service dog, but it is a service dog none the less. I'd rather have vets with dogs and less meds. Just because you can't see the person's disability doesn't mean it isn't real. Just because the dog isn't a larger breed like a retriever doesn't mean it isn't a service dog.
The vet in question has a poodle, not your typical service dog, but it is a service dog none the less. I'd rather have vets with dogs and less meds. Just because you can't see the person's disability doesn't mean it isn't real. Just because the dog isn't a larger breed like a retriever doesn't mean it isn't a service dog.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 22:17:16
trojanrabbit on 08/27/2013 22:17:16
Just got the "good" news from the mechanic.
Broken stabilizer in the front end. (Why it made noise taking a right turn)
Broken strut (I knew that, after all cars aren't meant to go airborne.....)
Exhaust leak.
Should get it back before Anne takes her friend to NY State over the weekend.
Broken stabilizer in the front end. (Why it made noise taking a right turn)
Broken strut (I knew that, after all cars aren't meant to go airborne.....)
Exhaust leak.
Should get it back before Anne takes her friend to NY State over the weekend.
Comment by livingonli on 08/28/2013 03:14:40
livingonli on 08/28/2013 03:14:40
Watching Olbermann's new ESPN2 show and he has a piece on College Football has become even more of a money game than the NFL.