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Author: Raine    Date: 05/01/2008 12:14:47

Today marks the 5 year anniversary of "Mission Accomplished". On this day, pResident *ush announced, "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended," Bush said at the time. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." [source]

As you know, every Tuesday we have a blog here called Ask a Vet, and the numbers tell us what a lie this was. Yesterday, the White house said they paid a price for that fateful day. 'What?' you say? They admitted a mistake? Why YES!
They Paid the Price...
After shifting explanations, the White House eventually said the "Mission Accomplished" phrase referred to the carrier's crew completing its 10-month mission, not the military completing its mission in Iraq. Bush, in October 2003, disavowed any connection with the "Mission Accomplished" message. He said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; a spokesman later said the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor.

"President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said `mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission," White House press secretary Dana Perino said Wednesday. "And we have certainly paid a price for not being more specific on that banner. And I recognize that the media is going to play this up again tomorrow, as they do every single year."

She said what is important now is "how the president would describe the fight today. It's been a very tough month in Iraq, but we are taking the fight to the enemy."

At least 49 U.S. troops died in Iraq in April, making it the deadliest month since September when 65 U.S. troops died.
The media SHOULD play this up. They should have played it up years ago. Problem was, the media was too busy cheerleading for this illegal war.

If, according to Dana Perino, how we describe the fight today is so important, then what have all those descriptions we have had over the past 5 years been?

Where those soldiers who died for a mistake any more or less important? First, we had to get al Qaeda, during a time when bush was conflating 911™ and Iraq, then it was for WMD's and so we had to kill Saddaam Hussein, then it was insurgents, then it was for stability, a few times it was actually stated that it was for the oil, then the insurgency became al Qaeda in Iraq, or something like that.... the reason(s) for this have changed so many times I cannot even begin to keep track, nor do I really wish to. However, ALWAYS, we are told that victory must be achieved.

And yet we never get that definition. Instead, we get an endless list of how the president would DESCRIBE this war. Each time more troops and innocent civilians die. There have been hundreds of excuses for so many things that this administration has done, but this one takes the cake. What matters is how the pResident describes the war.

They told this lie before. From Oct. 23, 2003, the pResident said in a press briefing
The "Mission Accomplished" sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished.
So, the only price to pay that is coming from the White house is the fact that they got caught. And still to this day the WH is saying it was the troops fault, even tho the White House paid to have this banner made.

This all may be trivial to you, and I can understand why. However... in this time of life and death for so many people, we need leaders who tell us the truth, who don't point fingers and who take responsibility. We need a media that doesn't cheerlead like a bunch of spectators at a WWE match. We need a media who cares more about our soldiers than a reverend. We need accountability.

Yes a price was paid for Mission accomplished, but I don't think that George W Bush has a clue to what kind of price was paid. HE has never attended one funeral of a fallen soldier. Not one...

America paid a price. The rPresident simply got embarrassed. That isn't a price. That is a minor inconvenience.

Every Tuesday here on our blog is where you can see the REAL price that is paid for Mission Accomplished. It isn't about how we describe the fight, it is about how many people are dying for this needless war.

:peace: and :heart:
Raine



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Comment by m-hadley on 05/01/2008 12:34:02
Mornin' Raine (& Others as you arise from your slumber ) :coffee:

Excellent post, fits right in with the entry I posted last night on my blog. We have all heard the drum beat to go to war with Iran. If we think that this unprovoked invasion will turn out any better than the invasion/occupation of Iraq, we are seriously misguided/delusional.



Hope that you have a very Happy May Day - remember that May Poles are NOT for Pole Dancing - :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 12:36:12
Good morning Faye! it is stunning that here we are trying to stop one war and prevent YET ANOTHER!



And yes! HAPPY MAY DAY! (you commie socialists you! )

Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 12:43:17
Mission Accomplished! :coffee:

Comment by right wing hater on 05/01/2008 12:48:32
Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum



Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...

'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period

The future is bright: the kids are alright!

Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)

Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show

Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...

Comment by TriSec on 05/01/2008 12:49:14
Morning folks!



Awww shucks, Raine....(looks down, shuffles feet) :redface:



Ask a Vet soldiers on....until such time we are no longer at war. Pray that we see it in our lifetime.







Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 12:54:19
Quote by right wing hater:

Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum



Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...

'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period

The future is bright: the kids are alright!

Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)

Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show

Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...
Good morning! I just got done reading them...



The friggin dittohead story just po's me off to no end.



Well they all do, but hey...



Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:04:19
Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:11:17
I saw the last 2 minutes of that interview. I found myself

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:12:29
:thud:



WOw. That was stunning.

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:18:17
I despise her for going on HIS show of ALL people. I am sorry I do.

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:19:35
The US government under Ronald RayGun certaily was behind IGNORING AIDS.



They were certainly behind making it a GAY thing. F*ckers.

Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:20:09
Good morning everyone.



Great blog there, Raine. It is really sad that this shit has been going on for 5 years.



And to confess, I do like 10cc.

Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:22:57
Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.



If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:25:16
Quote by livingonli:

Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.



If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...



Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:26:13
Oh hell... a Throw down between Shane-o and DJ!!!

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:27:21
Bill Clinton went on Rush's show.

Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:28:31
Quote by Raine:

Oh hell... a Throw down between Shane-o and DJ!!!


Please don't fight, you're both pretty.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:32:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.



If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...



I don't know if I could work those machines, either, but then I don't drink coffee

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:33:33
O'Rielly's blog threatened Hillary's life:



http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/bill-oreillys-web-site-threatens.html



SO NO, billo IS different from the rest of Faux news.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:36:07
Except when Obama considers meeting with world leaders we don't like... then he's naive.

Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:36:47
:yawn:



Howdy folks.



The Word of the Day from Merriam Webster is "Salad Days".



Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:37:32
Bill-O, gas wasn't almost $4 a gallon when Bill Clinton was President. What was it in 2000, about $1.50?

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:38:05
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Who saw that video of Hillary with the average person last night on KO which showed she's clueless about gas prices and apparently has never gotten her own coffee.



If she's going to make lectures about elitism, pot meet kettle.
point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...



I don't know if I could work those machines, either, but then I don't drink coffee
Oh I understand, I just found it rather funny that a pot of coffee was sitting RIGHT next to the machine... after all the comments about elitism etc... I just found it really funny.



AND... Good Morning! <------ Lady Gray tea....



Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:38:41
MOrning :hug:

Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:40:20
Quote by right wing hater:

Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum



Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...

'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period

The future is bright: the kids are alright!

Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)

Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show

Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...


Perhaps that's why she's working so hard to appeal to the Republicans?

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:40:26
salad days?



That seems rather random. Plus isn't that 2 words?

Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:40:53
Good morning Mala and :star:. How is our little DC crew today?

Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:41:23
Quote by Raine:

point of order here... She wasn't trying to get coffee... that was a cappucino machine...



cappicino?... as in "latte"?... as in "latte-drinking liberal elitist"???

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:41:59
What a bunch of strawmanning bullshite questions.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:42:29
this buddy-buddy crap is making me wretch

Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:42:59
All is fine in DC, going to be in the upper 70's and sunny and it's only one day from the weekend.

Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:43:34
Quote by Raine:

:coffee: <------ Lady Gray tea....





Elitist.



Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:43:39
Quote by BobR:

Quote by right wing hater:

Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of Day in Forum



Highlights: Capitol Hill insiders saying the battle of superdelegates is over & Obama has won...

'Surge' in Iraq Troop Death Level highest in 7 month period

The future is bright: the kids are alright!

Limbaugh Dittoheads poised to turn Indiana into Texas Redux (voting for Clinton in open primary)

Don Siegelman on Thom Hartmann show

Gas Tax Holiday Scam, it only helps Big Oil, not those at pump...


Perhaps that's why she's working so hard to appeal to the Republicans?
They just WON"T vote for her in the GE. I cannot see that happening.



They hate her more than Bill. I know of NO republican that would cross over to vote for her.



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:44:24
If I were Hillary I wouldn't want to be the beneficiary of the "swiftboating potential" against Obama.

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:45:18
Quote by jd_in_ny:

this buddy-buddy crap is making me wretch


Stockholm Syndrome.

Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:45:27
Quote by wickedpam:

All is fine in DC, going to be in the upper 70's and sunny and it's only one day from the weekend.


I liked the warm weather we had that weekend. It's been in the 50's since I came home Sunday.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:48:26
Why are we letting what the whacko right may or may not do control who we choose? I say, presume that they're going to be sexist, racist, hypocritical blowhards either way and move on from there.

GAAAAH!

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:50:23
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:52:22
despicable and dangerous. looking the mirror much?

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:53:11
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Why are we letting what the whacko right may or may not do control who we choose? I say, presume that they're going to be sexist, racist, hypocritical blowhards either way and move on from there.

GAAAAH!
AMEN! ::: Raine jumps up from Chair ::: YES!!!



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/01/2008 13:54:43
I refuse to give Fox any benefit of the doubt

Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:56:07
Raine on hold...

Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:57:14
Quote by Raine:

They just WON"T vote for her in the GE. I cannot see that happening.



They hate her more than Bill. I know of NO republican that would cross over to vote for her.



That's not going to stop her from trying...

Comment by BobR on 05/01/2008 13:57:36
FAYE!!

Comment by starling310 on 05/01/2008 13:57:41
FAYE!!! MY ROOMIE!!!!

Comment by livingonli on 05/01/2008 13:57:57
Faye!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:58:15
Oh Faye!

Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 13:58:15
faye!! :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 05/01/2008 13:58:56
Quote by BobR:

Raine on hold...








Comment by Raine on 05/01/2008 14:00:07
Guh... the wild thing...