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Paint By Numbers, part 2
Author: BobR    Date: 05/14/2008 12:01:27

Once again we have another election night recap. Once again, little has changed. As expected, Senator Clinton won WV by approximately a 2-to-1 margin. In real numbers, that means she got 16 delegates to Obama's 7, a net gain of nine, shrinking Obama's lead from 168 to 159. This has been described as a "symbolic victory", since it really doesn't help her in a meaningful way, but as to what it's symbolic of is anyone's guess.

It did provide Clinton with an opportunity to exclaim that if Obama couldn't win WV, he couldn't win the White House. Once again, the small fact being overlooked by everyone: Obama got more votes in WV than McCain did. Obama got 91,652 votes, while McCain got 89,683. The Popular Vote Tally has been updated. This seems important to me, considering how she likes to manipulate the numbers...

Also as expected, Clinton has vowed to stay in it to the bitter end (oops - did I say "bitter"?). Since even James Carville - a Hillary supporter - thinks Obama will win this, what's the point? Is it pride?... tenacity?... a hope for a position of power?... insanity? Or does this have to do with her $20M debt?

Her post-win speech last night (described by Terry McAuliffe as her Best Speech Ever) began with her asking her supporters to give her campaign contributions. He was also hitting up reporters for contributions. There's been talk of Obama using campaign funds to pay off some of Clinton's debt. I doubt that would make Obama's contributers very happy, and there's no indication of whether that's gotten anywhere past the idea stage. Therefore - she needs those contributions to keep coming in...

In other election news, a House seat for a district in Mississippi long held by Republicans was captured by a Democrat in a special election last night:
It's becoming a disturbing trend for Republicans: losing traditional GOP strongholds to Democrats in some hard-fought congressional races.

It happened again Tuesday, as Travis Childers beat Greg Davis in a special election to replace Republican Roger Wicker, who served in the House since 1994 and was appointed to the U.S. Senate to fill the seat vacated by Trent Lott.

Childers' win will give him the chance over the next several months left in the seat's two-year term to build a fundraising and publicity advantage as he heads into November's general election. He will again face Davis, as well as two other opponents.

Childers' win gave Democrats a 236-199 edge over Republicans in Congress.

This is an amazing time. When deep south deep red seats flip to blue, the country really IS ready for change. Once again, let me point out that looking at the sheer numbers turning out for the primaries in all of the states, either Obama or Clinton could beat McCain. Let's not alienate them by breaking the Democratic party rules, or changing them midstream. Let the people that voted in valid elections (as agreed to by the party and the candidates before the season started) have their say.

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Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 12:32:07
:coffee: Good morning!

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 12:40:30
Oh Dear.The RNC Uveiled it CONVENTION fashions at the MAll of America...

Comment by m-hadley on 05/14/2008 12:44:21
Mornin' Raine, :coffee:

I say shame on West Virginia and their racist selves - forgive my bluntness, but I've heard too many reports from WV that say that it was out-and-out racism that kept Mountaineers from even considering voting for Obama. So I say screw WV - I am much more impressed that a Democrat won Trent Lott's seat in Mississippi - way to go Dems. Ain't nothin' gonna stop us now. Apologies to the handful of good folks who live in West Virginia who did step outside their comfort zone and cast a vote for the Democratic nominee, Barack Obama. That's my rant for today - now I'll shut-up and go to work :)

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

Comment by m-hadley on 05/14/2008 12:46:16
Quote by Raine:

Oh Dear.The RNC Uveiled it CONVENTION fashions at the MAll of America...


Those pants are hidious !!!



Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 12:48:13
Hey Faye!



I concur sister!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/14/2008 12:50:53
Morning all! :coffee:



Faye you ain't kiddin'! Those pants seem like something out of a nightmare involving a candy cane fetish.

Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 12:52:43
Quote by Raine:

Oh Dear.The RNC Uveiled it CONVENTION fashions at the MAll of America...


Pants that look like pajama bottoms with a flank steak motif, and desecration of the flag for the kiddies....



the mind reels...

Comment by right wing hater on 05/14/2008 12:55:34
Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of the Day in the Forum



Highlights/Lowlights:

- Bush DOE says wind can be 20 percent of U.S. power by 2030 -- with no breakthroughs

- How's that for an incentive? Drink beer, fight climate change A Chinese peasant has made a solar water heater - using only beers bottles and hoses.

- Democrat Travis Childers won Tuesday’s Mississippi special election runoff for Sen. Roger Wicker’s ® former House seat, handing Democrats the biggest of their three special election takeovers this cycle and sending a listless GOP further into a state of disarray. This is the Second Recent Southern Special Congress Election the GOP Tried to Use Jeremiah Wright Against a Candidate and Lost in a Heavily Republican District.

The Obama Race Card Isn't Going to Work in a Repub-Dem Election. This Was a Heavily Republican District. Add Hastert's Seat Being Won by a Dem and Tom DeLay's and the Republicans Face Big, Big Troubles in November. That makes it 3 for 3, in GOP heavy areas!

- Tuesday: 'This race is over,' former DNC chair says; Obama adds more superdelegates, including another DNC chair under Bill Clinton, former Colorado Gov. Roy Romer

- Brent Budowsky: Strong Superdelegate Backlash Growing Against Clinton

- Republican War on Science & the Environment Update: Bush Sets Record: Two Years Since Any U.S. Species Listed As Endangered

- Racist Secret Service E-Mails

- GOP Truth/Republican Corruption: The California Republican Party's answer to a $20 billion budget deficit? Tax loopholes for yacht owners

- Michael Moore plots sequel to 'Fahrenheit 9/11

Comment by m-hadley on 05/14/2008 12:56:16
Quote by Raine:

Hey Faye!



I concur sister!


Raine,

I'm just curious do you agree with the assessment of the pantelones or the racism in West Virginia? I thought I might post my rant over on the SMS Live Blog, but am thinking better of it. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated - I don't want to start a war (But I wouldn't mind ticking off Clay :D), BTB, I fell asleep during Hillary's "greatest speech ever."

:scratchhead:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:07:37
Faye:

I agree with your assessment about WV. I don't like saying it, and have been trying to bite my tongue about it, but I can't.



I feel that the *linton campaign capitalized off of it shamefully. I wouldn't say that we should ever completly write off a state, but we need to acknowledge that things like this exist and then work on a high ground to change it.



The other thing to realize, imo, it the fact that this is a small state. Not a lot of people live there. I was joking last night about 'As WV goes, so goes the nation" but a certain campaign is acting like this is a truth. It isn't.



The whole Idea of the 50 state strategy means that ALL states count, and it seems to be working.



Childers took Mississippi! Not by a small margin either! and I think that means we have another SD. So the number may change to 2025.

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:14:20
I am a bitter mysoginist too I guess!

Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 13:16:23
Chronologically, I may be Baby Boomer, but I think more like a GenXer

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:17:04
:spit: Best Hawking imitatation EVEH!

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:17:58
20 minutes in and the Show is TOTALLY in the Ditch!

Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 13:21:38
Good morning all.



Ah, Don Imus, the pillar of enlightenment.







Here's an example of an informed voter in West Virginia.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/14/2008 13:22:17
Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:32:39


Cheezus.



The new Talking point?



Over. I want it done already.



My head is spinning.

Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 13:33:55
And it's still almost two weeks until Kentucky and Oregon.

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:34:59
Reading this Diary... interesting...



If what CNN is saying, that she got 16 and he got 7, then she actually lost delegates yesterday.

Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 13:36:13


If people want to get rid caucuses, they should get right on it - as soon as this election cycle is over.

Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 13:38:12
Quote by Raine:

Reading this Diary... interesting...



If what CNN is saying, that she got 16 and he got 7, then she actually lost delegates yesterday.


Needed to win:

Obama: 144

Clinton: 312



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/14/2008 13:39:32
after all the sucking up politicians do every few years in Iowa, how can any of them turn around and damn caucuses? sore losers, that's it.



(good morning!)

Comment by starling310 on 05/14/2008 13:40:17
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Raine, :coffee:

I say shame on West Virginia and their racist selves - forgive my bluntness, but I've heard too many reports from WV that say that it was out-and-out racism that kept Mountaineers from even considering voting for Obama. So I say screw WV - I am much more impressed that a Democrat won Trent Lott's seat in Mississippi - way to go Dems. Ain't nothin' gonna stop us now. Apologies to the handful of good folks who live in West Virginia who did step outside their comfort zone and cast a vote for the Democratic nominee, Barack Obama. That's my rant for today - now I'll shut-up and go to work :)

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:




Word!





Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 13:42:30
Good morning Too bad I don't have the morning poetry like mgm did.

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:44:44
http://www.southernoregonhumane.org/Images/ImageManager/pretty_gray_cat_copy.jpg


Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/14/2008 13:46:18
kitteh!

Comment by starling310 on 05/14/2008 13:46:20
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning all.



Ah, Don Imus, the pillar of enlightenment.







Here's an example of an informed voter in West Virginia.




Jeebus.



He's not a Muslim, people! Try to keep up.

Remember that whole Reverend Wright kerfuffle?? The one good thing that did was kind of PROVE; Barack OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!



Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 13:47:02
Quote by BobR:



Needed to win:

Obama: 144

Clinton: 312



There are 138 pledged delegates left to dole out:

Oregon (May 20): 52

Puerto Rico (Jun 01): 55

Montana (Jun 03): 16

South Dakota (Jun 03): 15



Assuming they split these evenly, then Obama will need 75 more superdelegates and Clinton will need 241.

Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 13:48:54
Quote by starling310:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning all.



Ah, Don Imus, the pillar of enlightenment.







Here's an example of an informed voter in West Virginia.




Jeebus.



He's not a Muslim, people! Try to keep up.

Remember that whole Reverend Wright kerfuffle?? The one good thing that did was kind of PROVE; Barack OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!



And the reporter plays right-wing hack by saying "But he SAYS he's a Christian".



Uh, Kate Snow, he is a Christian. With your reporting skills why aren't you working for Fox?

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:49:23
Comment by starling310 on 05/14/2008 13:53:31
Oh, but Terry...football players wear helmets. You can't SEE that they're black.



:: skates to penalty box ::

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/14/2008 13:54:21
what?

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:54:23
Obama did not get the racist vote?!?!?!



Donny. GO Away. Don't speak.

Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 13:55:05
Oh, Donnie, Donnie. Go crawl back under your rock. The Clinton people should ask for the money they paid you to troll back.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/14/2008 13:55:46
this? is an example of racism.

Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 13:56:14
blacks have been voting for whites ever since they were granted the right to vote.





Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/14/2008 13:56:47
go Steph and Chris!

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 13:57:52
Is donny gone?



Can I sit back down?



I feel a little sick.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/14/2008 13:59:05
oh, please. Shut the hell up Bill. So disingenuous - if you don't get what he's about, you're NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

I'm going to go pet my kitty in real life - this calls for more than a picture.

Comment by BobR on 05/14/2008 13:59:55


oh man:

2:57 p.m., Yeager Airport, Charleston, W.Va.: A steep descent brings Clinton's plane to Charleston's hilltop airport. After an appropriate wait, she steps from the plane and pretends to wave to a crowd of supporters; in fact, she is waving to 10 photographers underneath the airplane's wing. She pretends to spot an old friend in the crowd, points and gives another wave; in fact, she is waving at an aide she had been talking with on the plane minutes earlier.




ouch!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/14/2008 14:02:50
http://www.beedogs.com/



Just wow at the internet for having a website like this.

Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 14:02:55
Quote by Raine:

Is donny gone?



Can I sit back down?



I feel a little sick.


He is one of three reasons I really don't post much on the SMS live blog.



The other two are Clay and SMH.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/14/2008 14:03:30
Morning :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 05/14/2008 14:04:23
Quote by Scoopster:

http://www.beedogs.com/



Just wow at the internet for having a website like this.


Outdone in 30 seconds.



:thud:

Comment by livingonli on 05/14/2008 14:05:46
Good morning Mala.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/14/2008 14:07:20
Morning Pam! :coffee:

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 14:09:50
:clap: That was hillarious!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/14/2008 14:10:23
Heyya Liv, Scoop and all!

Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 14:10:41
btw... I got a bumper sticker in the mail yesterday!



Thank you :star:







Comment by Raine on 05/14/2008 14:12:28
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Scoopster:

http://www.beedogs.com/



Just wow at the internet for having a website like this.


Outdone in 30 seconds.



:thud:
I love will it blend!!!



They blended an iPod!