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Author: Raine Date: 09/10/2010 12:49:25

As of this morning, Terry Jones has said he would not be going through with his "International Quran Burning Event" -- To which I musk ask: Does it even matter anymore? Hasn't the damage been done? From Reuters:

Thousands of Afghans protested against the United States in the northeast on Friday, the largest demonstration since a small U.S. church said it planned to burn copies of the Koran, an Afghan official said.

After special Eid prayers to mark the end of Ramadan, the crowd, estimated by a governor's spokesman at 10,000, poured into the streets from mosques in Badakhshan province chanting anti-U.S. slogans.

There were no signs of disturbance, the spokesman said.

There is also this sad news. I person has died.

A protester against a US pastor's plans to burn copies of the Qur'an is reported to have been shot dead in northern Afghanistan after crowds attacked a Nato base.

The man was killed in Faizabad, the capital of Badakhshan, a provincial government spokesman said. It happened when thousands of worshippers poured onto the streets after Eid prayers had been held in nearby mosques.

The crowd was estimated at around 10,000 people. Some had hurled stones at a Nato base run by Germans, and the protester was shot when troops inside opened fire, Amin Sohail said.

Terry Jones accomplished what he set out to do -- spread anger and hate. As BobR wrote in yesterday's blog: Words can kill -- and now a person is dead.

Tomorrow is September 11, and I for one find this now deadly hate stunt more disrespectful and insensitive to those that died 9 years ago than any proposed 'community center'.

Imagine for a moment if an Imam decided to have an International "Bible Burning Event" ? How far are we going to take the religious intolerance in this nation? One religious leader is attempting to take steps to show more tolerance, and I for one welcome this.

A proposed Islamic community center near ground zero will include separate prayer spaces for Muslims, Christians, Jews and people of other faiths, the imam behind plans for the facility wrote in an opinion piece published online Tuesday.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf wrote in The New York Times that the attention surrounding the plans for the $100 million community center just blocks from the site of the Sept. 11 attacks "reflects the degree to which people care about the very American values under debate: recognition of the rights of others, tolerance and freedom of worship."

This is what I expect from religious leaders of ALL faiths in this nation. This is what I want for my country. Tolerance, acceptance and love. This is the exact opposite of what Terry Jones accomplished, and the media pushed.

All I know is that I am glad Terry Jones likes fire so much. It may very well come in handy for him in the future.

and

Raine

42 comments (Latest Comment: 09/10/2010 21:18:31 by Mondobubba)
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Comment by

velveeta jones on 09/10/2010 13:10:10

GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

VJ has the DAY OFF!!!!!

My Corporate chains have been RELEASED!!!!!!

WoHOOOOOooooooOOOOOO!!

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Time to mow the lawn.

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 13:12:38

Morning, comrades.

Since I hate Republicans, tomorrow I'll be having a "Burn a Reagan Biography" day.

Want in?

Comment by

BobR on 09/10/2010 13:20:23

Quote by TriSec:

Morning, comrades.

Since I hate Republicans, tomorrow I'll be having a "Burn a Reagan Biography" day.

Want in?

How about burning a shrubbery?... (wait for it) For Burn a Bush Day?

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 13:24:44

Quote by velveeta jones:

GOOD MORNING ALL!!!!

VJ has the DAY OFF!!!!!

My Corporate chains have been RELEASED!!!!!!

WoHOOOOOooooooOOOOOO!!

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>

>

Time to mow the lawn.

Oh the imagery of that!

have a wonderful day Ms. Jones!

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 13:25:39

Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

Morning, comrades.

Since I hate Republicans, tomorrow I'll be having a "Burn a Reagan Biography" day.

Want in?

How about burning a shrubbery?... (wait for it) For Burn a Bush Day?

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 13:36:03

I just

Laura Flanders. So glad she is sitting in with John Today.

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 13:38:04

Vel, I know you posted this on FB, But DAYM -- I had to repost it here.

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 13:51:49

There haven't been bits all week - they don't do that on vacation weeks. Although I may have found a loophole where I can listen online again. I'm ascared to try it, though.

Comment by

wickedpam on 09/10/2010 13:53:38

Morning

Comment by

BobR on 09/10/2010 13:54:56

Quote by Raine:

I just Laura Flanders. So glad she is sitting in with John Today.

Yeah - what a great combination!

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 13:55:39

Kevin from DC is making an amazing point.

Comment by

wickedpam on 09/10/2010 13:56:31

Quote by Raine:

Vel, I know you posted this on FB, But DAYM -- I had to repost it here.

They played that on Bill Press this morning - bless his little heart he is enthusiastic about running, I'll giving him that

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 13:59:47

I'm sure that most of you outside New England wish ill upon our football team. You did hear about the car accident yesterday involving Tom Brady?

The guy that crashed into him is a piece of work.

You can commit any crime you want, as long as you're driving a car you'll get away with it.

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 14:01:55

And a curious thing happened to Scott Brown (R-MA). He might not be a toolish Republican after all.

Comment by

BobR on 09/10/2010 14:06:22

Quote by Raine:

Vel, I know you posted this on FB, But DAYM -- I had to repost it here.

He's like a caricature of a high school football coach

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 14:08:47

Quote by TriSec:

And a curious thing happened to Scott Brown (R-MA). He might not be a toolish Republican after all.

I think he bends whichever way the wind blows. I have no idea what this person stands for beyond whatever will get him re-elected.

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 14:16:07

The death toll is rising in San Bruno...Al-Jazeera (of all places) is now reporting 6 killed.

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 14:25:11

Also posted at UNN...

9/11 has become a day of hate

The view from Germany...

Sept. 11 used to be a day when America came together -- party politics took a backseat to reconciliation. Not so this year. From the Muslim prayer room at ground zero to Koran burnings in Florida to a certain gathering in Alaska, the anniversary of the terrorist attacks this year threatens to become a day of hate.

The open letter was born of a desire simply to mourn. The signatures on the letter included the father of Jonathan Ielpi, a firefighter who died in the ruins of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001; the sister-in-law of Myra Aronson, who was on American Airlines Flight 11 when it was hijacked en route from Boston to Los Angeles and crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center; and Mary Ellen Salamone, wife of John Salamone, who was at work on the 104th floor of the North Tower at the time of the terrorist assault.

Together with many others also mourning loved ones, they wrote: "To hold rallies of any nature on Sept. 11 would be inappropriate and disrespectful to all of us who see 9/11 as a day outside of politics."

The letter was targeted at activists who want to use this Sept. 11 of all days, to protest the planned construction of a mosque -- actually an Islamic cultural center with a prayer room -- near Ground Zero.

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 14:41:58

For those that care -- Lou Reed did NOT deny Susan Boyle the pleasure of singing Perfect Day.

People REALLY need to pay attention to rights and usage rules. Keerist. I am really getting sick of the stupidity in this world.

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 14:48:42

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 15:04:47

JOIN THE LIVE CHAT

VISIT WHITEHOUSE.GOV

Comment by

Scoopster on 09/10/2010 15:05:19

Morning all & Happy Fridee!

Say did anyone see this yet today? Federal District Court Rules DADT Unconstitutional

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 15:10:33

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all & Happy Fridee!

Say did anyone see this yet today? Federal District Court Rules DADT Unconstitutional

I really hope that the Justice DEpartment doesn't challenge this.

Yes I saw the news last night, and I was quite giddy!

Comment by

BobR on 09/10/2010 15:13:54

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all & Happy Fridee!

Say did anyone see this yet today? Federal District Court Rules DADT Unconstitutional
I really hope that the Justice DEpartment doesn't challenge this.

Yes I saw the news last night, and I was quite giddy!

Two things:

1) I don't think a District Court has the authority to do this, but I could be wrong.

2) Without DADT, do we revert back to the legal standing that existed prior to that? If so, then things are on even worse footing (DATD was an improvement over the rules in place at the time).

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 15:29:17

OK, Chuck Todd -- How do we change you???

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 15:37:41

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all & Happy Fridee!

Say did anyone see this yet today? Federal District Court Rules DADT Unconstitutional
I really hope that the Justice DEpartment doesn't challenge this.

Yes I saw the news last night, and I was quite giddy!

Two things:

1) I don't think a District Court has the authority to do this, but I could be wrong.

2) Without DADT, do we revert back to the legal standing that existed prior to that? If so, then things are on even worse footing (DATD was an improvement over the rules in place at the time).

as to 1) I think the district court can do this, just as the District Court did in CAlifornia regarding prop 8.

As to 2) This is a serious and valid point to raise. I think things are going to get seriously murky. IT is for this reason I believe that we need Congress to pass a law repealing DADT once and for all.

Comment by

livingonli on 09/10/2010 15:47:28

Good morning folks.

Feeling sluggish this morning. At least kittie continues to sleep soundly on the desk chair

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 15:47:39

Did I make people walk away from the blog?

I can delete the POTUS press conference, altho I hope people are listening.

Comment by

livingonli on 09/10/2010 15:58:37

The blog's been quiet lately. Everyone seems to drift off in the 11 o'clock hour. Today was the first day I actually got up before noon.

Comment by

wickedpam on 09/10/2010 16:19:45

Hey thanks for the Live Feed of the presser that was great to listen too

Comment by

BobR on 09/10/2010 16:21:35

Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all & Happy Fridee!

Say did anyone see this yet today? Federal District Court Rules DADT Unconstitutional
I really hope that the Justice DEpartment doesn't challenge this.

Yes I saw the news last night, and I was quite giddy!

Two things:

1) I don't think a District Court has the authority to do this, but I could be wrong.

2) Without DADT, do we revert back to the legal standing that existed prior to that? If so, then things are on even worse footing (DATD was an improvement over the rules in place at the time).

as to 1) I think the district court can do this, just as the District Court did in CAlifornia regarding prop 8.

As to 2) This is a serious and valid point to raise. I think things are going to get seriously murky. IT is for this reason I believe that we need Congress to pass a law repealing DADT once and for all.

1) The District court could do it for Prop 8 because that was a state issue, and the court haa jurisdiction over the state. I don't think a district court has jurisdiction over the nation.

Comment by

wickedpam on 09/10/2010 16:22:00

oops sorry I didn't want to refesh and mess up the feed on my computer - sorry about that

Comment by

BobR on 09/10/2010 16:22:31

Quote by Raine:

Did I make people walk away from the blog?

I can delete the POTUS press conference, altho I hope people are listening.

I was listening, which is why I didn't want to interrupt it to refresh the comments or add one.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 09/10/2010 16:28:49

A brief hit and run. I am off to stuff some Democratic envelope. Get you minds outta the gutter.

Comment by

wickedpam on 09/10/2010 16:59:39

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Did I make people walk away from the blog?

I can delete the POTUS press conference, altho I hope people are listening.

I was listening, which is why I didn't want to interrupt it to refresh the comments or add one.

glad to know I wasn't the only one

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 19:13:21

I am glad you all appreciated the Live Feed. Wasn't sure about it.

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 19:42:15

Woah. Seriously.

Terry Jones' Dove World Church has a Rulebook.

Comment by

Raine on 09/10/2010 19:53:20

Quote by TriSec:

I'm sure that most of you outside New England wish ill upon our football team. You did hear about the car accident yesterday involving Tom Brady?

The guy that crashed into him is a piece of work.

You can commit any crime you want, as long as you're driving a car you'll get away with it.

Comment by

Mondobubba on 09/10/2010 20:22:33

I am so brimming with virtue! I folded my bits of paper and stuffed many an envelope. Talked with some like minded folks. I might go back tomorrow for more fun. Duval Democrats rule!

Comment by

TriSec on 09/10/2010 20:34:46

Heading out. End of summer in New England, going to close me mum's pool tonight.

It never got above 70 today. There will be shrinkage.