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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 11/08/2011 11:35:31
Good Morning.
Today is our 3,156th day in Iraq, and our 3,684th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4481
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4342
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3622
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 253
Since Operation New Dawn: 53
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,831
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 962
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:
$ 1, 274, 870, 400, 000.00
As we head into Veteran's day this week, I have a mountain of stories, so I'm just going to list away. We'll start with an
update from Arlington:
Perhaps we can finally start to put the scandal behind us and let Arlington go back to being the hallowed ground it was intended to be.
Heading overseas, we'll check in on Iraq and the progress towards coming home. While many of us have fought the political battles to get the troops home, surprisingly enough, families of those that fought the actual battles are far more ambivalent about the troops leaving...especially Gold-Star families.
Of course, "coming home" is a relative term. It's starting to look like several thousand troops are only "leaving Iraq" and will not be making the journey back to these shores.
The last paragraph is key, however. Since I bookmarked the initial story, Kuwait has come out and pretty much said, "not this time"....so maybe all the troops will be coming home after all.
Changing gears to the home front, there's an interesting study out that suggests that military couples tend to stay married, and the divorce rate isn't any different than the civilian rate, despite ten years of ongoing war. But then again, military couples get paid more and get better benefits. Something that hasn't happened on the same-sex front, I might add.
And finally today....since it is Veteran's Day this Friday, I think we should pause for a minute and honour an actual veteran.
Today is our 3,156th day in Iraq, and our 3,684th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4481
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4342
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3622
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 253
Since Operation New Dawn: 53
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,831
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 962
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:
As we head into Veteran's day this week, I have a mountain of stories, so I'm just going to list away. We'll start with an
update from Arlington:
ARLINGTON, Va. — A painstaking review of nearly 260,000 grave markers at Arlington National Cemetery has so far revealed no further evidence of misplaced or misidentified gravesites like the ones that led the Army to oust the cemetery’s top management last year, cemetery officials said in a briefing Friday.
Still, the cemetery has found tens of thousands of lesser discrepancies between the information on headstones and supporting paperwork, requiring review by a team of research analysts and, in some cases, replacement of headstones to fix the error.
The cemetery provided the briefing to Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., who chairs a subcommittee that has investigated what McCaskill and others have called widespread mismanagement at the cemetery. An Army inspector general’s report last year revealed that more than 200 gravesites were potentially mislabeled or misplaced inside the cemetery. Subsequent investigation determined those were largely paperwork errors as opposed to having actual bodies in the wrong place.
McCaskill said Friday that she is encouraged by the thoroughness of the Army’s fact-checking process, in which members of the Army’s Old Guard — its official ceremonial unit — were sent to the cemetery over the summer to photograph every marker at the cemetery with iPhones, and build an electronic database to replace what had largely been a system of paper records.
“Most important, I know going forward that we’re not going to have this problem again” because of the systems being put in place at the cemetery by its new leadership team, said McCaskill, who had been one of the cemetery’s most outspoken critics.
Perhaps we can finally start to put the scandal behind us and let Arlington go back to being the hallowed ground it was intended to be.
Heading overseas, we'll check in on Iraq and the progress towards coming home. While many of us have fought the political battles to get the troops home, surprisingly enough, families of those that fought the actual battles are far more ambivalent about the troops leaving...especially Gold-Star families.
Almost all American troops are supposed to leave Iraq by the end of December. President Barack Obama said so on Oct. 21.
More than six years before the announcement, Army Pfc. Robert Swaney called his aunt, Angie Denes. He had been living with her in West Jefferson when he enlisted. He was "Robbie" to her.
Swaney was calling from Iraq. He had killed a person for the first time, and that had upset him. He was starting to wonder what he was doing there. He felt "forsaken," Denes remembered, as if he and his fellow soldiers had been put in a terrible position and then forgotten.
"Do you think it's going to make a difference?" he asked his aunt about the war in Iraq in 2005.
Swaney, 21, was killed the week after that phone call, on July 30, 2005, when his vehicle rolled over a bomb in Baghdad.
Even now, Denes doesn't have a clear answer to her nephew's question. She feels lied to about weapons of mass destruction. But she does think that the international democratic uprisings over the past year came, in part, because of the United States' example in Iraq.
All these years later, is leaving Iraq the right thing?
"I don't know," she said last week. But she still cries when she talks about Robbie.
The Democrats and the Republicans, the political scientists and the media commentators have all had their say about the withdrawal. But the families who have made the greatest investments in Iraq -- those families who have lost loved ones -- have their own opinions.
Of course, "coming home" is a relative term. It's starting to look like several thousand troops are only "leaving Iraq" and will not be making the journey back to these shores.
WASHINGTON — Although all but a small number of U.S. troops will be out of Iraq by the end of the year, they won’t all be home for the holidays as President Obama promised last month.
The Pentagon is poised to move at least 4,000 soldiers from Iraq to Kuwait at the end of the year, pending a final decision expected soon by Pentagon and Kuwaiti leaders, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
The move is part of a still-developing Pentagon strategy that ends the Iraq War but positions a strong U.S. force just across the border in Kuwait and across the region to reinforce the U.S.’s commitment to the Middle East and prevent a power vacuum when the tens of thousands of U.S. forces who have served in Iraq are gone.
According to officials, the 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, which is currently in Iraq, will be shifted to Kuwait, where troops will be close enough to serve as a quick-reaction force if needed in Iraq or any of the nearby countries. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision has not been finalized by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.
The plan to beef up U.S. presence in Kuwait also must be approved by the Kuwaiti leaders, although most officials do not believe that will be a problem. The U.S. has had a substantial presence in Kuwait for years, even before the start of the Iraq War.
The last paragraph is key, however. Since I bookmarked the initial story, Kuwait has come out and pretty much said, "not this time"....so maybe all the troops will be coming home after all.
Changing gears to the home front, there's an interesting study out that suggests that military couples tend to stay married, and the divorce rate isn't any different than the civilian rate, despite ten years of ongoing war. But then again, military couples get paid more and get better benefits. Something that hasn't happened on the same-sex front, I might add.
Ten years of war and extreme stress on servicemembers and their families haven't made the military's divorce rate any higher than that of civilians, according to a new report. And the likely reason, the lead researcher says, is the pay and benefits the military offers to married couples.
"Our speculation is that civilians don't get paid extra if they're married, but [servicemembers do]," Benjamin Karney, the study's lead researcher, told Military.com. "The fact that the military pays people to stay married [likely] keeps them married. There's really something going on there, it seems."
The perks of marriage in the military don't stop at the extra pay and housing allowance, Karney noted. Among other benefits, military families also receive subsidized childcare, free counseling and marriage support, free or greatly reduced healthcare, and employment help for spouses.
Karney said the findings could be seen as a lesson for civilian society. If the military can make marriage work over years of war-related stress, he said, the rest of American culture should be able to follow suit.
"We know that the military is under stress and the stress is pretty bad -- but there are other things that matter, too ... which is the support that people have available to them," he said. "The lesson here is that when you help people out and make their lives better, they have better marriages."
The new study, performed by the RAND Corp., is the first of its kind. Unlike previous studies, it compared DoD personnel information from 1998 to 2005 with population data from the Census Bureau. The study broke out and examined divorce rates among male servicemembers and civilians based on race, age and pay to assess how divorce affects different populations within the military.
The results almost universally showed a higher rate of marriage in the military versus civilians, but the same or slightly lower rates of divorce among all military populations.
In 2010, the overall military divorce rate hovered at about 3.6 percent. A comparable civilian rate is not available because of the way that data is tracked year over year.
And finally today....since it is Veteran's Day this Friday, I think we should pause for a minute and honour an actual veteran.
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Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 13:55:56
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 13:55:56
Morning.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 13:56:12
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 13:56:12
Morning 
Well stopped and voted this morning for the only Dem running in my district, he's facing a tough fight for re-election so I'm keeping my fingers
Also did my first write in vote for a firend that doesn't even know I did it. She's a kick butt community organizer who would be awesome in the state senate
Well stopped and voted this morning for the only Dem running in my district, he's facing a tough fight for re-election so I'm keeping my fingers
Also did my first write in vote for a firend that doesn't even know I did it. She's a kick butt community organizer who would be awesome in the state senate
Comment by 
Raine on 11/08/2011 13:59:36
good morning!
We'll both be voting around lunchtime.
In Herman Cain news, another woman has come forward questioning his behavior.
Raine on 11/08/2011 13:59:36
good morning! We'll both be voting around lunchtime.
In Herman Cain news, another woman has come forward questioning his behavior.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:06:06
This is rather large "bimbo erruption" isn't it? "Bimbo erruption" being a Clinton era term for all the women coming out and saying they had sex with Bubba. I use it with an ironic bent.
On serious note, Cain is a disgusting pig.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:06:06
Quote by Raine:
We'll both be voting around lunchtime.
In Herman Cain news, another woman has come forward questioning his behavior.
This is rather large "bimbo erruption" isn't it? "Bimbo erruption" being a Clinton era term for all the women coming out and saying they had sex with Bubba. I use it with an ironic bent.
On serious note, Cain is a disgusting pig.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:07:59
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:07:59
I wish I didn't have a feeling of free floating dread today 
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 14:08:38
Any reason in particular?
Raine on 11/08/2011 14:08:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
I wish I didn't have a feeling of free floating dread today
Any reason in particular?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:11:03
That is why it is free floating. It is part of the whole depression thing. It'll pass soon enough.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:11:03
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
I wish I didn't have a feeling of free floating dread today
Any reason in particular?
That is why it is free floating. It is part of the whole depression thing. It'll pass soon enough.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 14:12:26
Raine on 11/08/2011 14:12:26
Quote by Mondobubba:
That is why it is free floating. It is part of the whole depression thing. It'll pass soon enough.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:12:54
a little lashing out I'm guessing
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:12:54
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
We'll both be voting around lunchtime.
In Herman Cain news, another woman has come forward questioning his behavior.
This is rather large "bimbo erruption" isn't it? "Bimbo erruption" being a Clinton era term for all the women coming out and saying they had sex with Bubba. I use it with an ironic bent.
On serious note, Cain is a disgusting pig.
though he did order two $400 bottles of wine and stuck the women with the bill, she said.
a little lashing out I'm guessing
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:14:24
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:14:24
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
That is why it is free floating. It is part of the whole depression thing. It'll pass soon enough.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:16:16
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:16:16
you know I'm more inclined to believe the reports of sexual harassment because of where the stories are orginiating - Politico and the Examiner are rather right leaning media
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:16:23
Group hugs and kitten hugs. Just what I needed. Thanks! You are da bes' friends.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:16:23
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
That is why it is free floating. It is part of the whole depression thing. It'll pass soon enough.
Group hugs and kitten hugs. Just what I needed. Thanks! You are da bes' friends.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 14:19:47
Don't forget this memo from the NRA Now we know what was too hot to be emailed.
Raine on 11/08/2011 14:19:47
Quote by wickedpam:
you know I'm more inclined to believe the reports of sexual harassment because of where the stories are orginiating - Politico and the Examiner are rather right leaning media
Don't forget this memo from the NRA Now we know what was too hot to be emailed.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:26:15
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:26:15
Getting back to yesterday's blog for moment, Mississippi really wants to be the Republic of Giliad*, doesn't it
*See Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale
*See Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:27:51
Part of me wonders if somebody's dirt diggers tipped Poltico about this. Say :cough:NewtGingrich:cough:
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:27:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
you know I'm more inclined to believe the reports of sexual harassment because of where the stories are orginiating - Politico and the Examiner are rather right leaning media
Don't forget this memo from the NRA Now we know what was too hot to be emailed.
Part of me wonders if somebody's dirt diggers tipped Poltico about this. Say :cough:NewtGingrich:cough:
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 14:39:10
Wow. Tomb of the Unknown Guard Silences Disrespectful Crowd
Raine on 11/08/2011 14:39:10
Tomb of the Unknown Guard Silences Disrespectful Crowd: MyFoxDC.com
Wow. Tomb of the Unknown Guard Silences Disrespectful Crowd
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 14:39:49
At this point, I think this was well known to a lot of people in DC.
Raine on 11/08/2011 14:39:49
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
you know I'm more inclined to believe the reports of sexual harassment because of where the stories are orginiating - Politico and the Examiner are rather right leaning media
Don't forget this memo from the NRA Now we know what was too hot to be emailed.
Part of me wonders if somebody's dirt diggers tipped Poltico about this. Say :cough:NewtGingrich:cough:
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:48:06
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 14:48:06
I didn't know you weren't allowed to talk or anything at the tomb of the unknown
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 14:50:29
I think there was some inappropriate laughing going on. When I went there, it was very quiet and people whispered.
What shocked me was the Soldier breaking protocol.
Raine on 11/08/2011 14:50:29
Quote by wickedpam:
I didn't know you weren't allowed to talk or anything at the tomb of the unknown
What shocked me was the Soldier breaking protocol.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:54:27
Many years ago on windy winter's day, my dad took me to visit The Tomb of the Unknows and the graves of the Kennedy brothers. The rubber mat that the honor guard march on was blowing over. My father thought he would be helping if he staightened the mat out. he was wrong, he was firmly yet politely told to get back behind the ropes.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:54:27
Quote by Raine:Tomb of the Unknown Guard Silences Disrespectful Crowd: MyFoxDC.com
Wow. Tomb of the Unknown Guard Silences Disrespectful Crowd
Many years ago on windy winter's day, my dad took me to visit The Tomb of the Unknows and the graves of the Kennedy brothers. The rubber mat that the honor guard march on was blowing over. My father thought he would be helping if he staightened the mat out. he was wrong, he was firmly yet politely told to get back behind the ropes.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:56:15
They are allowed to break protocol if there is something they precieve as distrespectful to the Tomb and it's surroundings. See my last post.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 14:56:15
Quote by Raine:I think there was some inappropriate laughing going on. When I went there, it was very quiet and people whispered.Quote by wickedpam:
I didn't know you weren't allowed to talk or anything at the tomb of the unknown
What shocked me was the Soldier breaking protocol.
They are allowed to break protocol if there is something they precieve as distrespectful to the Tomb and it's surroundings. See my last post.
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/08/2011 14:59:45
TriSec on 11/08/2011 14:59:45
I could write an entire blog about this, actually.
I had to flee the Tomb myself, with a very young Javi (circa 2004) who decided he didn't want to watch anymore. I knew better than to try to quiet him down.
I'm not floored by the soldier breaking protocol as I am at somebody there laughing. Have we sunk so far, lost so much respect for our institutions, that whoever it was didn't stop to think for just one second that this might not be appropriate?
(And part of me secretly hopes the soldier is from Cambridge or San Francisco and had to silence a Texan, but I digress.)
I had to flee the Tomb myself, with a very young Javi (circa 2004) who decided he didn't want to watch anymore. I knew better than to try to quiet him down.
I'm not floored by the soldier breaking protocol as I am at somebody there laughing. Have we sunk so far, lost so much respect for our institutions, that whoever it was didn't stop to think for just one second that this might not be appropriate?
(And part of me secretly hopes the soldier is from Cambridge or San Francisco and had to silence a Texan, but I digress.)
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:03:54
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:03:54
Oh Mondo -- that must have been a bit embarrassing for your dad.
And Tri -- I'm not making excuses for the laughter -- I suspect it was a teenager being stupid.
And Tri -- I'm not making excuses for the laughter -- I suspect it was a teenager being stupid.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:06:11
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:06:11
There are signs there telling visitors what is expected of them.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 15:06:47
That is a very good point, Tri. Some people just have bad home training and a lack of class.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 15:06:47
Quote by TriSec:
I could write an entire blog about this, actually.
I had to flee the Tomb myself, with a very young Javi (circa 2004) who decided he didn't want to watch anymore. I knew better than to try to quiet him down.
I'm not floored by the soldier breaking protocol as I am at somebody there laughing. Have we sunk so far, lost so much respect for our institutions, that whoever it was didn't stop to think for just one second that this might not be appropriate?
(And part of me secretly hopes the soldier is from Cambridge or San Francisco and had to silence a Texan, but I digress.)
That is a very good point, Tri. Some people just have bad home training and a lack of class.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 11/08/2011 15:08:47
Scoopster on 11/08/2011 15:08:47
Mornin' all.. 
Sorry I'm late - bus got a flat tire!
Sorry I'm late - bus got a flat tire!
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:13:08
wow - they are very strict
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:13:08
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I think there was some inappropriate laughing going on. When I went there, it was very quiet and people whispered.Quote by wickedpam:
I didn't know you weren't allowed to talk or anything at the tomb of the unknown
What shocked me was the Soldier breaking protocol.
They are allowed to break protocol if there is something they precieve as distrespectful to the Tomb and it's surroundings. See my last post.
wow - they are very strict
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:17:57
Huckabee is such an idiot.
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:17:57
Huckabee is such an idiot.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:24:50
for those not listening to the show, they played this audio.
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:24:50
Quote by Raine:
for those not listening to the show, they played this audio.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:29:02
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:29:02
blame the victim - of course
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:29:23
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:29:23
BTW, the Freepers are saying that this woman who came forward HAD to be lying... you know why?
The steering wheel got in the way.
The steering wheel got in the way.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:30:26
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:30:26
Damn -- What is with all the Gloria Allred hate?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:30:41
idiots
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:30:41
Quote by Raine:
BTW, the Freepers are saying that this woman who came forward HAD to be lying... you know why?
The steering wheel got in the way.
idiots
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:31:21
she has been made out to be an ambulance chaser by some of the media over the years
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:31:21
Quote by Raine:
Damn -- What is with all the Gloria Allred hate?
she has been made out to be an ambulance chaser by some of the media over the years
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:45:57
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:45:57
Well, this is awkward.
According to a Monday report in the French website "Arret sur Images," after facing reporters for a G20 press conference on Thursday, the two presidents retired to a private room, to further discuss the matters of the day.
(...)
The conversation then drifted to Netanyahu, at which time Sarkozy declared: "I cannot stand him. He is a liar." According to the report, Obama replied: "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!"
The remark was naturally meant to be said in confidence, but the two leaders' microphones were accidently left on, making the would-be private comment embarrassingly public.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 15:49:38
Raine on 11/08/2011 15:49:38
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:52:36
That's what I was thinking
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 15:52:36
Quote by Raine:
Reuters picked up the story as well. (they tastefully left out the exclamation point... )
Obama's apparent failure to defend Netanyahu is likely to be leapt on by his Republican foes, who are looking to unseat him in next year's presidential election and have portrayed him as hostile to Israel, Washington's closest ally in the region.
That's what I was thinking
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:17:05
I thought that too -- what is amazing to me is that Obama was actually very tactful when face with what Sarkozy said. (IOW: he didn't go all gossip girl...
)
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:17:05
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Reuters picked up the story as well. (they tastefully left out the exclamation point... )Obama's apparent failure to defend Netanyahu is likely to be leapt on by his Republican foes, who are looking to unseat him in next year's presidential election and have portrayed him as hostile to Israel, Washington's closest ally in the region.
That's what I was thinking
I thought that too -- what is amazing to me is that Obama was actually very tactful when face with what Sarkozy said. (IOW: he didn't go all gossip girl...
)
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:36:47
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:36:47
Voting done!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:38:19
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:38:19
I LOVE voting.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/08/2011 16:40:08
Scoopster on 11/08/2011 16:40:08
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 16:40:13
Netanyahu being a prickly pear who people don't like doesn't mean Obama hates Isreal. Yeah I know, i'm not thinking like a winger.... Skates to penalty box:
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 16:40:13
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Reuters picked up the story as well. (they tastefully left out the exclamation point... )Obama's apparent failure to defend Netanyahu is likely to be leapt on by his Republican foes, who are looking to unseat him in next year's presidential election and have portrayed him as hostile to Israel, Washington's closest ally in the region.
That's what I was thinking
I thought that too -- what is amazing to me is that Obama was actually very tactful when face with what Sarkozy said. (IOW: he didn't go all gossip girl...
Netanyahu being a prickly pear who people don't like doesn't mean Obama hates Isreal. Yeah I know, i'm not thinking like a winger.... Skates to penalty box:
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:43:59
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:43:59
Grassley is such a dope.
“It almost pains me — and please don’t take this away from Senator Grassley’s time — it pains me that, as you said, we had a private conversation, you sent me a handwritten note — that I took very seriously,†a visibly frustrated Holder responded.
“You and I have worked together on a variety of issues, I think I have a good relationship with you, you sent me a handwritten note that I looked at, took seriously, referred that letter to [the Office of Professional Responsibility] or the [Office of the Inspector General] — I’m not sure which of the two — and asked them to try to find out what happened,†Holder continued.
“I called you to try to indicate to you that I had taken that matter seriously, that action had been taken,†Holder said. “In a different time in Washington, I’m not sure that necessarily what you just said would have been shared with everyone here, but so be it, it’s a different time I suppose.â€
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:44:32
I JUST saw that!
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:44:32
I JUST saw that!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:45:49
Exactly.
I am pretty sure there were a LOT of leaders who could not stand Bush but still were our allies. Angela Merkel being one of them...
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:45:49
Quote by Mondobubba:
Netanyahu being a prickly pear who people don't like doesn't mean Obama hates Isreal. Yeah I know, i'm not thinking like a winger.... Skates to penalty box:
I am pretty sure there were a LOT of leaders who could not stand Bush but still were our allies. Angela Merkel being one of them...
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/08/2011 16:50:26
livingonli on 11/08/2011 16:50:26
Good morning everyone. After some cold days, it's back up in the 60's today. I guess we're getting another gasp of Indian Summer.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 16:54:52
Raine on 11/08/2011 16:54:52
Watch out for fake recall petition prematurely filed by Walker supporters...
pass this along please.
pass this along please.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2011 16:58:12
TriSec on 11/08/2011 16:58:12
News from the Girl Scouts...their centennial is next year!
Ruth Bramson, the chief executive of Girl Scouts of Eastern Massachusetts, wants to make one thing clear. “We’ll never give up the cookie badge.’’
But as Girl Scouts of the USA prepares to celebrate its 100th anniversary, the organization has revamped its badge lineup, and some - Looking Your Best, and From Fitness to Fashion, among them - have gotten the ax. Others, such as the cookie badge, made the cut, albeit with makeovers.
And some of the 136 badges sound more like topics trending on Twitter than something a fresh-faced girl would pin on her sash.
There’s a Good Credit badge and a Money Manager badge, Locavore, Website Designer, and Netiquette badges, a Science of Happiness badge, and, as a component of a cookie-badge program that has been expanded, a Customer Loyalty badge.
At a time when girls have many extracurricular options, the wide-ranging revamp - the first in 25 years - is an attempt to stay relevant.
“The girls said, ‘We love the camping, we love the cookies, but we want the Girl Scouts to be more about what we’re about,’ ’’ Bramson said.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 16:58:56
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 16:58:56
Comment by Scoopster on 11/08/2011 17:09:10
Scoopster on 11/08/2011 17:09:10
XKCD from yesterday is.... just... yeah.
btw don't forget to let your mouse cursor hover over the comic for the bonus blurb.
btw don't forget to let your mouse cursor hover over the comic for the bonus blurb.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 17:15:25
The Girl Scouts and Woodie Guthrie both.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 17:15:25
Quote by TriSec:
News from the Girl Scouts...their centennial is next year!
Ruth Bramson, the chief executive of Girl Scouts of Eastern Massachusetts, wants to make one thing clear. “We’ll never give up the cookie badge.’’
But as Girl Scouts of the USA prepares to celebrate its 100th anniversary, the organization has revamped its badge lineup, and some - Looking Your Best, and From Fitness to Fashion, among them - have gotten the ax. Others, such as the cookie badge, made the cut, albeit with makeovers.
And some of the 136 badges sound more like topics trending on Twitter than something a fresh-faced girl would pin on her sash.
There’s a Good Credit badge and a Money Manager badge, Locavore, Website Designer, and Netiquette badges, a Science of Happiness badge, and, as a component of a cookie-badge program that has been expanded, a Customer Loyalty badge.
At a time when girls have many extracurricular options, the wide-ranging revamp - the first in 25 years - is an attempt to stay relevant.
“The girls said, ‘We love the camping, we love the cookies, but we want the Girl Scouts to be more about what we’re about,’ ’’ Bramson said.
The Girl Scouts and Woodie Guthrie both.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:23:22
HEY! Stop hurting that wall!
(otherwise we'll have to find another kitty pic. )
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:23:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
(otherwise we'll have to find another kitty pic. )
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:24:38
Nice to see them pro-volving.
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:24:38
Quote by TriSec:
News from the Girl Scouts...their centennial is next year!
Ruth Bramson, the chief executive of Girl Scouts of Eastern Massachusetts, wants to make one thing clear. “We’ll never give up the cookie badge.’’
But as Girl Scouts of the USA prepares to celebrate its 100th anniversary, the organization has revamped its badge lineup, and some - Looking Your Best, and From Fitness to Fashion, among them - have gotten the ax. Others, such as the cookie badge, made the cut, albeit with makeovers.
And some of the 136 badges sound more like topics trending on Twitter than something a fresh-faced girl would pin on her sash.
There’s a Good Credit badge and a Money Manager badge, Locavore, Website Designer, and Netiquette badges, a Science of Happiness badge, and, as a component of a cookie-badge program that has been expanded, a Customer Loyalty badge.
At a time when girls have many extracurricular options, the wide-ranging revamp - the first in 25 years - is an attempt to stay relevant.
“The girls said, ‘We love the camping, we love the cookies, but we want the Girl Scouts to be more about what we’re about,’ ’’ Bramson said.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:30:01
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:30:01
This shit makes me angry.
Between global over population and the amount of children that need a family to call thier own, these people are terribly irresponsible.
Bob and I have, for many reasons, chosen not to have children -- both before and after we met, to be honest. It would take dozens of other people not having children to make up for these people.
I hope that makes sense. I have no ill will towards people who have families, I find this just reproductively selfish. It hurts the resources on the planet.
Baby #20: Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar, stars of TLC's "19 Kids and Counting," announced they're expecting their 20th child in spring. Their last baby Josie was born with complications after Michelle was diagnosed with preeclampsia. "Michelle is probably in better health now than she was 10 years ago," Jim Bob told People.
Between global over population and the amount of children that need a family to call thier own, these people are terribly irresponsible.
Bob and I have, for many reasons, chosen not to have children -- both before and after we met, to be honest. It would take dozens of other people not having children to make up for these people.
I hope that makes sense. I have no ill will towards people who have families, I find this just reproductively selfish. It hurts the resources on the planet.
Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2011 17:41:22
Me want kitty picture.
livingonli on 11/08/2011 17:41:22
Quote by Raine:HEY! Stop hurting that wall!Quote by Mondobubba:
(otherwise we'll have to find another kitty pic. )
Me want kitty picture.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 17:41:51
Cute animals to the rescue
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 17:41:51
Quote by Raine:HEY! Stop hurting that wall!Quote by Mondobubba:
(otherwise we'll have to find another kitty pic. )
Cute animals to the rescue
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 17:43:03
reminds me of the old saying - Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 17:43:03
Quote by Raine:
This shit makes me angry.Baby #20: Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar, stars of TLC's "19 Kids and Counting," announced they're expecting their 20th child in spring. Their last baby Josie was born with complications after Michelle was diagnosed with preeclampsia. "Michelle is probably in better health now than she was 10 years ago," Jim Bob told People.
Between global over population and the amount of children that need a family to call thier own, these people are terribly irresponsible.
Bob and I have, for many reasons, chosen not to have children -- both before and after we met, to be honest. It would take dozens of other people not having children to make up for these people.
I hope that makes sense. I have no ill will towards people who have families, I find this just reproductively selfish. It hurts the resources on the planet.
reminds me of the old saying - Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:46:01
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:46:01
I cannot --for the life of me-- imagine 19 and soon to be 20 children getting the proper attention they meed from their parents.
Mala is correct indeed, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.
Mala is correct indeed, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 17:47:01
they don't, that's when the oldest do the parenting instead of the parents
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 17:47:01
Quote by Raine:
I cannot --for the life of me-- imagine 19 and soon to be 20 children getting the proper attention they meed from their parents.
Mala is correct indeed, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.
they don't, that's when the oldest do the parenting instead of the parents
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2011 17:50:36
TriSec on 11/08/2011 17:50:36
They want that many babies, why don't they adopt some and do some good?
"You lucky boy...you're going to America!" - one of Javi's nurses in Manila, saying goodbye.
"You lucky boy...you're going to America!" - one of Javi's nurses in Manila, saying goodbye.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2011 17:51:36
TriSec on 11/08/2011 17:51:36
How many of those dugheads are in the military, one wonders? After all, that's been the reasoning for producing large families ever since ancient times.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:53:21
News Corp is total Scum.
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:53:21
UPDATE: News Corp.'s tablet newspaper The Daily has outed one of Herman Cain’s accusers who had previously made clear that she had no desire for her name to be made public.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:55:04
I understand the struggles you and Ms. Tri went through, and I would NEVER dismiss them, but I LOVE that you adopted your son. 
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:55:04
Quote by TriSec:
They want that many babies, why don't they adopt some and do some good?
"You lucky boy...you're going to America!" - one of Javi's nurses in Manila, saying goodbye.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 17:59:53
and that is something else -- in this day and age -- find acceptable.
Tri mentioned military service. I think there is validity to that.
I will share this, when I was about 14-15 years or so, I asked my great grandmother why she had so many babies. (My grandmother is one of 10 children. One didn't survive past the first week or so)
She told me, We had babies because we didn't think they would all live. This was the way it was.
I'll be heading to NY next week, I will be seeing my Oma and my great uncle Henry who is staying with my mom for a few weeks -- they are the only 2 still alive.
Oma had 2 children. One my Mother. The other was stillborn. Oma went to adopt my 2 uncles.
Raine on 11/08/2011 17:59:53
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I cannot --for the life of me-- imagine 19 and soon to be 20 children getting the proper attention they meed from their parents.
Mala is correct indeed, just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.
they don't, that's when the oldest do the parenting instead of the parents
Tri mentioned military service. I think there is validity to that.
I will share this, when I was about 14-15 years or so, I asked my great grandmother why she had so many babies. (My grandmother is one of 10 children. One didn't survive past the first week or so)
She told me, We had babies because we didn't think they would all live. This was the way it was.
I'll be heading to NY next week, I will be seeing my Oma and my great uncle Henry who is staying with my mom for a few weeks -- they are the only 2 still alive.
Oma had 2 children. One my Mother. The other was stillborn. Oma went to adopt my 2 uncles.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/08/2011 18:00:05
Scoopster on 11/08/2011 18:00:05
Can I just take a moment to mention this mess that's at a rolling boil in State College PA?
He let this shit go on for YEARS without informing the administration at Penn State. That makes him an accessory to child molestation.
He let this shit go on for YEARS without informing the administration at Penn State. That makes him an accessory to child molestation.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 18:01:34
I think the oldest who's now started his own village is a firefighter
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 18:01:34
Quote by TriSec:
How many of those dugheads are in the military, one wonders? After all, that's been the reasoning for producing large families ever since ancient times.
I think the oldest who's now started his own village is a firefighter
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2011 18:17:07
TriSec on 11/08/2011 18:17:07
*non-sequitir*
Have any of you in the Northeast quadrant seen that uber-annoying ad from Xfiniti with the Top Fuel dragster and the comely Latina....stereotype accent, tortured syntax and all?
Not only is that insulting, I thought Mexicans were bad? Can't a hot American chick sell cable tv?
Anyway, back to your regularly-scheduled blogging.
Have any of you in the Northeast quadrant seen that uber-annoying ad from Xfiniti with the Top Fuel dragster and the comely Latina....stereotype accent, tortured syntax and all?
Not only is that insulting, I thought Mexicans were bad? Can't a hot American chick sell cable tv?
Anyway, back to your regularly-scheduled blogging.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 18:28:13
Paterno is done.
Sandusky should face trial. This whole thing makes my stomach turn.
Raine on 11/08/2011 18:28:13
Quote by Scoopster:
Can I just take a moment to mention this mess that's at a rolling boil in State College PA?
He let this shit go on for YEARS without informing the administration at Penn State. That makes him an accessory to child molestation.
Sandusky should face trial. This whole thing makes my stomach turn.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 18:28:48
The oldest is having kids now too????
Raine on 11/08/2011 18:28:48
Quote by wickedpam:
I think the oldest who's now started his own village is a firefighter
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2011 18:35:23
TriSec on 11/08/2011 18:35:23
One of the ladies care to comment about this?
How old is the dug-woman? 20 babies now, what percentage of her life has she spent pregnant?
And what makes that different from sexual slavery, one wonders?
How old is the dug-woman? 20 babies now, what percentage of her life has she spent pregnant?
And what makes that different from sexual slavery, one wonders?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 18:36:07
When one communicates with an other, especially with a company providing a product or service, it is customary to provide the information that is needed to implement the changes to the product or service.
In plain English when you sent me an email asking for change, tell me where that needs to happen, jackass!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 18:36:07
Quote by Raine:HEY! Stop hurting that wall!Quote by Mondobubba:
(otherwise we'll have to find another kitty pic. )
When one communicates with an other, especially with a company providing a product or service, it is customary to provide the information that is needed to implement the changes to the product or service.
In plain English when you sent me an email asking for change, tell me where that needs to happen, jackass!
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2011 18:37:38
TriSec on 11/08/2011 18:37:38
OK, sorry if that sounded perjorative. Those people, and that octo-mom person are Z-stoff to my T-stoff.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 18:41:43
She is 45.
FORTY FIVE!!!!
Raine on 11/08/2011 18:41:43
Quote by TriSec:
One of the ladies care to comment about this?
How old is the dug-woman? 20 babies now, what percentage of her life has she spent pregnant?
And what makes that different from sexual slavery, one wonders?
FORTY FIVE!!!!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 18:42:36
This really does make me upset.
Raine on 11/08/2011 18:42:36
"We would love more! I'm 44, almost 45 this September. I know that my mommy years are probably numbered, and I don't know how many more children God will see fit to give me. "It is something we've been praying about because we do love children. Each child really is a gift and that doesn't mean just our children. We asked the Lord to give us a love of children the way He loves children. That is something that we've prayed about, and we'll just see what the Lord has in store for our family in the future."
This really does make me upset.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 18:43:26
It's all so damn wrong.
(not you, Tri )
Raine on 11/08/2011 18:43:26
Quote by TriSec:
OK, sorry if that sounded perjorative. Those people, and that octo-mom person are Z-stoff to my T-stoff.
(not you, Tri )
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 18:59:52
Raine on 11/08/2011 18:59:52
AP: A high-ranking Penn State official says support for football coach Joe Paterno is eroding among the school's board of trustees.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 19:03:08
They are also reporting that the Board of Trustees also were the ones who pulled the plug on Paterno's news conference.
Raine on 11/08/2011 19:03:08
Quote by Raine:AP: A high-ranking Penn State official says support for football coach Joe Paterno is eroding among the school's board of trustees.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 19:03:10
I surprised she doesn't have a prolapsed uturus. AKA it fell out.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 19:03:10
Quote by Raine:She is 45.Quote by TriSec:
One of the ladies care to comment about this?
How old is the dug-woman? 20 babies now, what percentage of her life has she spent pregnant?
And what makes that different from sexual slavery, one wonders?
FORTY FIVE!!!!
I surprised she doesn't have a prolapsed uturus. AKA it fell out.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 19:08:37
Raine on 11/08/2011 19:08:37
Herman Cain is now deciding to attack the woman...
So let's get this right: She's Unemployed, filed for bankruptcy, Fought for custody of her son --
sounds like about half of all Americans.
Oh, yeah, and she isn't RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
Remember I said it -- once a woman is sexually harassed, they have to go thru being harassed a second time when they come forward.
I know that there are people who believe this is all political Bread and Circuses but this is a larger point for me. Women shouldn't have to go thru this.
So let's get this right: She's Unemployed, filed for bankruptcy, Fought for custody of her son --
sounds like about half of all Americans.
Oh, yeah, and she isn't RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
“After attacking Herman Cain through anonymous accusers for a week, his opponents have now convinced a woman with a long history of severe financial difficulties, including personal bankruptcy, to falsely accuse the Republican frontrunner of events allegedly occurring well over a decade ago for which there is no record, nor even a complaint filed,†the statement said.
The statement also accused Ms. Allred of being a “celebrity lawyer who specializes in generating publicity for herself and her clients†and said Ms. Allred has “given over ten thousand dollars to liberal Democrats like Barack Obama, Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer.â€
Remember I said it -- once a woman is sexually harassed, they have to go thru being harassed a second time when they come forward.
I know that there are people who believe this is all political Bread and Circuses but this is a larger point for me. Women shouldn't have to go thru this.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 19:11:40
Actually... It sorta sounds like it damn near ready to. irresponsible.
Stop having sex if you don;t believe in birth control.
Raine on 11/08/2011 19:11:40
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:She is 45.Quote by TriSec:
One of the ladies care to comment about this?
How old is the dug-woman? 20 babies now, what percentage of her life has she spent pregnant?
And what makes that different from sexual slavery, one wonders?
FORTY FIVE!!!!
I surprised she doesn't have a prolapsed uturus. AKA it fell out.
There is some legitimate concern over this pregnancy as the Duggars’ most recent child, 23-month-old Josie, had to be kept in intensive care after she was born three months premature and weighing only 1 pound, 6 ounces.
Michelle confirmed to the magazine that she’s under the care of a high-risk pregnancy doctor. She said she’s on a special diet and added, “We are just going to do the best we can. I am taking a nap every day, and we are just taking good care.†The Duggars will find out the baby’s sex in late December and, due to complications from Josie’s emergency delivery, Michelle’s C-section will be scheduled this time around.
Stop having sex if you don;t believe in birth control.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 19:17:23
Raine on 11/08/2011 19:17:23
oh, well, this is the awkward video of the day.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 20:13:17
Thanks for this information.
I have a good friend on my page, a conservative -- for full disclosure, that I wanted to set right.
Raine on 11/08/2011 20:13:17
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh helloooo what have we here?
I have a good friend on my page, a conservative -- for full disclosure, that I wanted to set right.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 20:29:46
Alow me explain this away like a right winger would. Cain isn't at fault at all, he made sound fiduciary decsions for the company and those greedy employees who weren't happy to get what they got for their 401k accounts sued! He's a victim! Poor Herman!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 20:29:46
Quote by Raine:Thanks for this information.Quote by Scoopster:
Oh helloooo what have we here?
I have a good friend on my page, a conservative -- for full disclosure, that I wanted to set right.
Alow me explain this away like a right winger would. Cain isn't at fault at all, he made sound fiduciary decsions for the company and those greedy employees who weren't happy to get what they got for their 401k accounts sued! He's a victim! Poor Herman!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 20:45:02
Raine on 11/08/2011 20:45:02
Serious question, AmericaBlog posted this: (along with a link to webpage)
I took a look at the website. I saw this.
Do any of those names look familiar?
I am wondering if this is indeed a conservative site.
As part of a new effort to derail Romney's nomination for President, a group of Republican activists have just launched NotMittRomney.com to argue that Mitt Romney isn't conservative and isn't electable. On the website they argue that Mitt Romney wouldn't be electable in a general election because Republicans would stay home.
Do any of those names look familiar?
I am wondering if this is indeed a conservative site.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 20:46:45
Randi is talking about her ectopic pregnancy.
Raine on 11/08/2011 20:46:45
Randi is talking about her ectopic pregnancy.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 20:50:05
Raine on 11/08/2011 20:50:05
Wow.
At what point will conservatives finally renounce what Rush says? "Why Don't You Just Make It Official, Put On Some Burkas" If You Want Everybody To Leave You Alone?"
Just shaking my damn head. He is longing for the days when this behavior was appropriate.
At what point will conservatives finally renounce what Rush says? "Why Don't You Just Make It Official, Put On Some Burkas" If You Want Everybody To Leave You Alone?"
Just shaking my damn head. He is longing for the days when this behavior was appropriate.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:06:24
Yikes!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:06:24
Quote by Raine:
Yikes!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:16:00
He's not longing for anything. He thinks it is appropriate.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:16:00
Quote by Raine:
Wow.
At what point will conservatives finally renounce what Rush says? "Why Don't You Just Make It Official, Put On Some Burkas" If You Want Everybody To Leave You Alone?"
Just shaking my damn head. He is longing for the days when this behavior was appropriate.
He's not longing for anything. He thinks it is appropriate.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:19:11
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:19:11
Hey Av-Dork! What happened on this day in 1950?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:38:50
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 21:38:50
A big birthday shout out to Heck of Job Brownie! Let's give him a round of Bronx cheers!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 21:40:32
Raine on 11/08/2011 21:40:32
iffin y'all are so inclined, Bob and I will be on Turn up the Night tonite.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:12:08
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:12:08
Cain lawyered up.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:12:33
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:12:33
Anyone else watching/listening?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:15:00
listening until we leave
no, I have never wanted a "business man" in the White House
and now he's referring to himself in third person
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:15:00
Quote by Raine:
Anyone else watching/listening?
listening until we leave
no, I have never wanted a "business man" in the White House
and now he's referring to himself in third person
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:16:45
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:16:45
lawrd he's got a worse mush mouth then I do
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:19:26
4 times so far.
I cannot believe this bullshite.
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:19:26
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Anyone else watching/listening?
listening until we leave
no, I have never wanted a "business man" in the White House
and now he's referring to himself in third person
4 times so far.
I cannot believe this bullshite.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:19:53
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:19:53
I have never seen such a liar and a BS artist. He's a sheister.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:26:05
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:26:05
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:27:43
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:27:43
so F the other 49%?
Comment by 
clintster on 11/08/2011 22:29:33
clintster on 11/08/2011 22:29:33
FOX News: "Is it a conspiracy?"
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:30:08
wickedpam on 11/08/2011 22:30:08
ugh - now's a good time to skeedattle - this guys skeevy
Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2011 22:30:47
livingonli on 11/08/2011 22:30:47
Listening to the spectacle via Randi. Gotta love those "objective" standards at Fixed Noise (or as Thom calls it, GOP-TV).
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:31:02
pretty much. That is what I took away from that comment.
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:31:02
Quote by wickedpam:
so F the other 49%?
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:31:41
Yes, it all a ruse for women to 'get' Herman cain.
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:31:41
Quote by clintster:
FOX News: "Is it a conspiracy?"
Yes, it all a ruse for women to 'get' Herman cain.
Comment by clintster on 11/08/2011 22:38:49
clintster on 11/08/2011 22:38:49
Awwwww... it's for the "grandkids".
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 22:41:41
Won't somebody PLEEEASE think of the Grandkids???
Raine on 11/08/2011 22:41:41
Quote by clintster:
Awwwww... it's for the "grandkids".
Won't somebody PLEEEASE think of the Grandkids???
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 22:45:36
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 22:45:36
The Hermanator's actions today just cemented him as an arch douche nozzle.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 22:50:48
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 22:50:48
Looks the Herm has gotten that Fox commenting gig in the bag!
Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2011 22:56:55
Plenty of arch douche nozzles over there. I just will wonder whether his head or Sarah Palin's will rattle more when it shakes due to lack of knowledge.
livingonli on 11/08/2011 22:56:55
Quote by Mondobubba:
Looks the Herm has gotten that Fox commenting gig in the bag!
Plenty of arch douche nozzles over there. I just will wonder whether his head or Sarah Palin's will rattle more when it shakes due to lack of knowledge.
Comment by clintster on 11/08/2011 23:04:47
clintster on 11/08/2011 23:04:47
I noticed that #Cainwreck is a very popular tag on Twitter right now.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 23:04:56
Liv, I think that is a dead heat. They are both hella stoopid!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 23:04:56
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
Looks the Herm has gotten that Fox commenting gig in the bag!
Plenty of arch douche nozzles over there. I just will wonder whether his head or Sarah Palin's will rattle more when it shakes due to lack of knowledge.
Liv, I think that is a dead heat. They are both hella stoopid!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 23:13:29
It's pretty funny.
Did you see who his lawyer is?
I can't say anything bad about the guy -- I can say that ol' Herb has hired the big guns.
Raine on 11/08/2011 23:13:29
Quote by clintster:
I noticed that #Cainwreck is a very popular tag on Twitter right now.
It's pretty funny.
Did you see who his lawyer is?
I can't say anything bad about the guy -- I can say that ol' Herb has hired the big guns.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2011 23:25:25
Raine on 11/08/2011 23:25:25
Half hour till show time!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 23:31:56
Mondobubba on 11/08/2011 23:31:56
You frickin' doofus, it's called tabbed browsing, look into it!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/09/2011 00:28:29
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2011 00:28:29
TriSec, thanks for an interesting blog.
I think that Netanyahu is a very divisive figure, and is not all that popular in Israel -- in part due to the economy. I think Obama acted tactfully.
In some good news, my grand niece is back home. The surgery to connect her esophagus to her stomach will be later this month.
I think that Netanyahu is a very divisive figure, and is not all that popular in Israel -- in part due to the economy. I think Obama acted tactfully.
In some good news, my grand niece is back home. The surgery to connect her esophagus to her stomach will be later this month.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2011 03:36:09
Raine on 11/09/2011 03:36:09
ok, well that happened.
I may have been a little too aggressive when I asked PS Mueller if he lost his job when he said no to a woman sexually harassing him.
He said he didn't.
I did when I said no to a client. I lost the account.
I may have been a little too aggressive when I asked PS Mueller if he lost his job when he said no to a woman sexually harassing him.
He said he didn't.
I did when I said no to a client. I lost the account.