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War Dead
Author: TriSec    Date: 12/10/2011 14:29:07

Good Morning.

We Americans are a curious lot. It has been said of us that we'll give you the shirt off our backs just for the asking...but if provoked, we shall show a wrath like no other.

We've had a long history of wrath; our country born in war, seems to have continued that tradition down through the ages. But we're not going to look at war from our point of view today. Nay...we'll be looking through enemy eyes.


You know I live close to the Battle Road, and indeed I drive on a part of it nearly every day through Lexington Center. In nearby Concord is the crucible of the Revolution; the battle site at the Old North Bridge. On the Concord side of the bridge, you'll find this sight:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oG2ffHT1kXk/SApRG1ALsNI/AAAAAAAAB50/KwRXSswk2Xk/s400/memorial.jpg


That's two British war dead; buried where they fell and accorded full honours to this day. While the re-enactor is undoubtedly an American, it's considered quite an honor to have this role during the summer tourist season.

Further down the Battle Road near Hanscom Field is a lone grave, again a British soldier buried where he fell, with a fresh Union Jack placed on the site every year.

We've just had the 70th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. While the story itself may be apocryphal, there is the tale of some Japanese pilots shot down during the attack who were buried without honor the day after. A civilian women brought flowers to the graves, stating only "They were some mother's sons."

After World War II, we entered the Cold War. While there are stories of both sides rescuing sailors and airmen in distress (The Sea has its own rules that take precedence over politics), there's one episode in particular that sticks out.

In 1968, the Soviet submarine K-129 sank in the Pacific, relatively close to Hawaii. The United States decided to recover the wreck, and developed an elaborate cover story in order to do so.

When the wreck was finally recovered in 1974...several bodies of Soviet submariners were discovered in the wreck. At the height of the Cold War, these sailors were accorded full military honours in a burial at sea by their adversaries. When the secret video of the event finally made it to the Soviet Ambassador's hands in the US, it is said that he wept over the respect shown.



Which finally brings us to our own War Dead. Longtime readers of this space know the ongoing issues with Arlington National Cemetery. It's been out of the news for a while, so perhaps things are finally being corrected and those responsible are paying the price.

This story broke earlier in the week. We've had a lively debate about it here, and the question has been raised about how civilians are treated in a similar situation. In some brief research this morning, I've discovered that amputated or lost body parts can only be released to a funeral home; otherwise they are incinerated at the hospitals with the rest of the medical waste and sent along to a landfill. So the answer would seem that the practice is in keeping with industry standards....but the severed body parts of our soldiers, sailors, and airmen deserve better, don't you think?

Abraham Lincoln, while standing on the greatest American battlefield of all, stated "We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this." While he was speaking for the Union dead at the time, over the ensuing 150 years the honoured dead of all of our Wars have been interred there. Arlington Cemetery maintains the Tomb of the Unknowns, but having been to Gettysburg myself and seeing the sight below...don't you think that a place of honour could be found among the groves of Arlington for a similar monument?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5027853778_5e2ae3150a.jpg

 

9 comments (Latest Comment: 12/10/2011 20:18:21 by BobR)
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Comment by Raine on 12/10/2011 14:59:39
Thanks for this TriSec. It is lessor know that at Arlinton, there is this:
Civil War Unknowns Monument
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/photos/civilwar2.jpg


It reads:
Beneath this stone repose the bones of
Two thousand one hundred and eleven unknown
Soldiers gathered after the war. From the fields of Bull Run,
and the route to the Rappahanock, their remains could not be
identified. But their names and deaths are recorded in the archives of
their country, and its grateful citizens honor them as of their
nobel army of martyrs. May they rest in peace.
September. A. C. 1866.


I still don't know how I feel about this. this is the part that bothers me, from the original WaPo article:
The landfill dumping was concealed from families who had authorized the military to dispose of the remains in a dignified and respectful manner, Air Force officials said. There are no plans, they said, to alert those families now.
and this:
This week, after The Post pressed for information contained in the Dover mortuary’s electronic database, the Air Force produced a tally based on those records. It showed that 976 fragments from 274 military personnel were cremated, incinerated and taken to the landfill between 2004 and 2008.

An additional group of 1,762 unidentified remains were collected from the battlefield and disposed of in the same manner, the Air Force said. Those fragments could not undergo DNA testing because they had been badly burned or damaged in explosions. The total number of incinerated fragments dumped in the landfill exceeded 2,700.

A separate federal investigation of the mortuary last month, prompted by whistleblower complaints, uncovered “gross mismanagement” and documented how body parts recovered from bomb blasts stacked up in the morgue’s coolers for months or years before they were identified and disposed of.


and as a strange aside, it turns out the unidentified remains of the 9/11 dead will be buried underground at the new world trade center.




Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2011 16:09:43
Good morning. Working 1-Midnight today. Will start seeing more of those days now that the NBA is back even though there is no NBA yet today.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2011 17:32:21
Afternoon all.. Yes, I'm working today UGH SHOOT ME NOW!

Saw this on Twitter last night..

@yaffles yaffle
Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney sound like names George Lucas rejected before he settled on Nute Gunray and Mon Mothma.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/10/2011 17:56:48
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning. Working 1-Midnight today. Will start seeing more of those days now that the NBA is back even though there is no NBA yet today.

I'm so sick of hearing about the NBA.. I never really cared about pro basketball anyways but between the lockout and this mess with trading big name players and the league owning bad teams and nullifying said trades in favor of trades with other teams.. what an absolute clusterfuck!

Comment by Raine on 12/10/2011 18:10:11
Ok this was pointed out to me on another site... (A few people have noticed this as well) So anyway...

You know that Rick perry ad? ( the one with the brokeback mountain coat?) this one:

Listen to the music...

Now listen to this:
Especially note the last minute or so...

Sounds terribly familiar. I've just spent the last few moments re-listening to both. The latter you see was from Aaron Copeland.

You will note, the irony here is that Copeland was gay. He was Jewish -- and he is considered a liberal -- by many accounts he had communist and socialist leanings.

Irony -- thy name is Rick Perry.





Comment by Raine on 12/10/2011 18:11:10
Quote by Scoopster:
Afternoon all.. Yes, I'm working today UGH SHOOT ME NOW!

Saw this on Twitter last night..

@yaffles yaffle
Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney sound like names George Lucas rejected before he settled on Nute Gunray and Mon Mothma.



Indeed!

Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2011 19:21:20
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning. Working 1-Midnight today. Will start seeing more of those days now that the NBA is back even though there is no NBA yet today.

I'm so sick of hearing about the NBA.. I never really cared about pro basketball anyways but between the lockout and this mess with trading big name players and the league owning bad teams and nullifying said trades in favor of trades with other teams.. what an absolute clusterfuck!

The NBA: Doing their best to turn people away from the sport. I still have to do Knicks games at work and at least there are the cheerleaders to check out.


Comment by livingonli on 12/10/2011 19:28:32
But right now I have the epic battle of BYU @ Utah. I'm feeling so Mormonie.

Comment by BobR on 12/10/2011 20:18:21
Thanks for such a well-researched and thought-provoking blog, TriSec. It bothers me as well that such callous disregard for the remains of our soldiers was allowed to continue for several years. It seems that the honor accorded those that go to war - whether our own or our enemies - has lapsed tremendously.

Hell - even Osama bin Laden's remains were treated better.