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The world hasn't stopped.
Author: toshua
Date: 12/29/2011 04:06:01
I've been watching a lot of the news shows over the past few days while the Christmas season rotates around me. While the Christmas movies have taken over most of the prime time hours, has anyone noticed something else? All of the 'talking heads' are discussing the politics of Iowa and the caucus coming up, along with the 'surge' of the Republican candidates and the fall of the same.
Gotta ask: what about the rest of the world? The political games of US are not the beginning and end of the news. How about the power change in N. Korea? The earthquake in New Zealand? The protest marches in Moscow? Or follow-ups on things in the US, like the tornadoes, the floods, the drought in Texas?
I've seen 30 second coverage 'sound bites' on North Korea. While we might not have reporters there, shouldn't we have a little more coverage, maybe even S. Korea's reaction? We have reporters in Moscow. Have you seen any coverage of the 30,000 people that marched over election results? How about New Zealand? There's a series of earthquakes and it gets 30 seconds before we're back to Newt and Rick and their ups and downs.
While what happens here in the US is the biggest concern to the citizens of the US, we shouldn't be ignoring the rest of the world because our politics are in chaos. It's a big world and we're part of it. It's a real shame to have to go to the BBC to find other news of the world. While some would point to the web and sites likes 'Huffington Post' as coverage of the world, get real. 90% of Americans get their news from some TV channel, network or cable.
So many of our citizens don't have a clue about the rest of the world and lots of them don't care... Is it a good idea for the biggest news agencies cover nothing but politics, hour after hour?
Gotta ask: what about the rest of the world? The political games of US are not the beginning and end of the news. How about the power change in N. Korea? The earthquake in New Zealand? The protest marches in Moscow? Or follow-ups on things in the US, like the tornadoes, the floods, the drought in Texas?
I've seen 30 second coverage 'sound bites' on North Korea. While we might not have reporters there, shouldn't we have a little more coverage, maybe even S. Korea's reaction? We have reporters in Moscow. Have you seen any coverage of the 30,000 people that marched over election results? How about New Zealand? There's a series of earthquakes and it gets 30 seconds before we're back to Newt and Rick and their ups and downs.
While what happens here in the US is the biggest concern to the citizens of the US, we shouldn't be ignoring the rest of the world because our politics are in chaos. It's a big world and we're part of it. It's a real shame to have to go to the BBC to find other news of the world. While some would point to the web and sites likes 'Huffington Post' as coverage of the world, get real. 90% of Americans get their news from some TV channel, network or cable.
So many of our citizens don't have a clue about the rest of the world and lots of them don't care... Is it a good idea for the biggest news agencies cover nothing but politics, hour after hour?
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Comment by 
Raine on 12/29/2011 13:35:01
good morning! Until I write a Thursday Blog, I'm gonna bump this to the top.
One thing I love about our little corner of the world here at 4F is that we rely one many different areas and media outlets.
I wish others did as well. We have talked about our American MEdia and its corporate nature and how it is driven by sensationalism. It's critical to seek out information these days because regular television doesn't provide for it.
Raine on 12/29/2011 13:35:01
good morning! Until I write a Thursday Blog, I'm gonna bump this to the top. One thing I love about our little corner of the world here at 4F is that we rely one many different areas and media outlets.
I wish others did as well. We have talked about our American MEdia and its corporate nature and how it is driven by sensationalism. It's critical to seek out information these days because regular television doesn't provide for it.
Comment by 
TriSec on 12/29/2011 13:45:35
TriSec on 12/29/2011 13:45:35
Only one US media outlet is on my "go-to" list, and it's decidedly not mainstream.
In order...
BBC World Service
CBC (Canada)
Al-Jazeera (for Middle-East stuff)
and then the Boston-based Christian Science Monitor.
These are my lead sites for world news. Boston.com (the former Boston Globe website) now blows goats; I tend to look through Google News and my Google Reader for US news, which aggregates multiple sources anyway. CNN can still break a story first, but for any in-depth details, I usually go elsewhere.
In order...
BBC World Service
CBC (Canada)
Al-Jazeera (for Middle-East stuff)
and then the Boston-based Christian Science Monitor.
These are my lead sites for world news. Boston.com (the former Boston Globe website) now blows goats; I tend to look through Google News and my Google Reader for US news, which aggregates multiple sources anyway. CNN can still break a story first, but for any in-depth details, I usually go elsewhere.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 13:51:25
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 13:51:25
Morning 
Our news outlets seem to have lost focus. Used to be that local news covered anything in a certain mile radius, then the state level and they would just touch on things that were national, unless it was a really big story. The nightly network news would cover national and world in a balanced manner, With the advent of "cable" news the world was supposed to be more open to us knowing what's going on in it, instead we get Gaga and Bieber and the sKanKKs
Our news outlets seem to have lost focus. Used to be that local news covered anything in a certain mile radius, then the state level and they would just touch on things that were national, unless it was a really big story. The nightly network news would cover national and world in a balanced manner, With the advent of "cable" news the world was supposed to be more open to us knowing what's going on in it, instead we get Gaga and Bieber and the sKanKKs
Comment by 
Scoopster on 12/29/2011 14:01:28
Scoopster on 12/29/2011 14:01:28
Mornin' all... 
Comment by TriSec on 12/29/2011 14:06:13
TriSec on 12/29/2011 14:06:13
Well, here we go.
Top news on MSNBC today.
Top story on the BBC today.
And reading the comments on the MSNBC story, they seem to share a common thread..."And this is news how?" People are noticing, but unless ratings and ad revenue drop...
Top news on MSNBC today.
Top story on the BBC today.
And reading the comments on the MSNBC story, they seem to share a common thread..."And this is news how?" People are noticing, but unless ratings and ad revenue drop...
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 14:14:37
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 14:14:37
I am going to desent here. if you haven't noticed, we are Americans so the American based news media is going to cover things happening in Anerica Duh!
Now that I done venting, the problem with commerical American news media is this: the companies that are the dominate players tightly control the budgets of their news divisions. This is not like when Paley was running the CBS news division with bureaus all over the world. Same thing with NBC & ABC back in day.
Frankly I think whining about American media not covering international news is a weird form of liberal snobbery. It smacks of "oh look at me and how engaged I am in the world around me! I'm better than you, you FNC viewing peseant."
Sorry for the flame so early, but this touches a nerve.
Now that I done venting, the problem with commerical American news media is this: the companies that are the dominate players tightly control the budgets of their news divisions. This is not like when Paley was running the CBS news division with bureaus all over the world. Same thing with NBC & ABC back in day.
Frankly I think whining about American media not covering international news is a weird form of liberal snobbery. It smacks of "oh look at me and how engaged I am in the world around me! I'm better than you, you FNC viewing peseant."
Sorry for the flame so early, but this touches a nerve.
Comment by TriSec on 12/29/2011 14:29:02
TriSec on 12/29/2011 14:29:02
I must disagree with the esteemed gentleman from Jacksonville.
I don't think it's a weird form of liberal snobbery at all...you're playing right into the right-wing meme that liberals are indeed the better-educated 'snobs'. When did it become a bad thing to be well-informed? You do make a valid point that the average American gets most of their news from the tevee, but wouldn't we all be better if that source was much improved instead of the Goebbels-like propaganda that they usually spew?
I have been unable to have lucid discussions with certain of my relatives who rely on the Faux; their worldview is so far from reality that it's impossible to even make a valid point without running into a twisted talking point. That doesn't make us better, that makes us all worse.
So yeah...I will continue to whine and lament the quality of so-called news organizations, and will continue to rely on my multitude of sources. I'd rather be that snob. If wearing that label is the price I pay, then so be it.
I don't think it's a weird form of liberal snobbery at all...you're playing right into the right-wing meme that liberals are indeed the better-educated 'snobs'. When did it become a bad thing to be well-informed? You do make a valid point that the average American gets most of their news from the tevee, but wouldn't we all be better if that source was much improved instead of the Goebbels-like propaganda that they usually spew?
I have been unable to have lucid discussions with certain of my relatives who rely on the Faux; their worldview is so far from reality that it's impossible to even make a valid point without running into a twisted talking point. That doesn't make us better, that makes us all worse.
So yeah...I will continue to whine and lament the quality of so-called news organizations, and will continue to rely on my multitude of sources. I'd rather be that snob. If wearing that label is the price I pay, then so be it.
Comment by 
BobR on 12/29/2011 14:45:15
BobR on 12/29/2011 14:45:15
I'm with TriSec on this one - back when the only sources of news where the 3 networks (+ PBS) at 6:00 and 11:00, you could count on "World News Tonight" to deliver news from outside our borders.
Now that most people get their news from cable (and a disturbing number from the FAUX News outlet), that proportionate coverage no longer exists. Even the "World News" with Diane Sawyer barely covers real world news.
Now that most people get their news from cable (and a disturbing number from the FAUX News outlet), that proportionate coverage no longer exists. Even the "World News" with Diane Sawyer barely covers real world news.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 14:51:00
Raine on 12/29/2011 14:51:00
You know I wonder about this. before CNN and the onslaught of 24/7 cable outlets, we had CBS, NBC and ABC-- they were considered loss leaders for the networks. They were NOT a part of the profit centers.
And there is still PBS. It began as the The Robert MacNeil Report.
Back then, (and before the onslaught of Television) people still read newspapers -- somehow we got the world information we needed.
I think this is a multi-tiered problem, to be honest. We should not ignore our nation's politics -- especially in this day and age with the amount of money that flows into it, and thus -- power. The reality is that people seem to have become lazy.
... and that allows the corporately run media to rake in profits. more profit, more shlock it appears.
I think both Tri and Mondo make valid points. I WANT to know what is happening in America -- and to Americans first and foremost, to be quite honest. That said -- it doesn't preclude my desire to know what is happening on an international basis. As Mala said:
When major media outlets figured out they could make MORE money by closing international news bureaus we all suffered. News should not be for profit.
CNN was a very noble idea. and I believe in my heart that Ted Turner has very good intentions -- but a 24 hour news service needs money-- Perhaps had CNN become a loss leader for the cable empire we would not be in this place.
And there is still PBS. It began as the The Robert MacNeil Report.
Back then, (and before the onslaught of Television) people still read newspapers -- somehow we got the world information we needed.
I think this is a multi-tiered problem, to be honest. We should not ignore our nation's politics -- especially in this day and age with the amount of money that flows into it, and thus -- power. The reality is that people seem to have become lazy.
... and that allows the corporately run media to rake in profits. more profit, more shlock it appears.
I think both Tri and Mondo make valid points. I WANT to know what is happening in America -- and to Americans first and foremost, to be quite honest. That said -- it doesn't preclude my desire to know what is happening on an international basis. As Mala said:
With the advent of "cable" news the world was supposed to be more open to us knowing what's going on in it, instead we get Gaga and Bieber and the sKanKKs
When major media outlets figured out they could make MORE money by closing international news bureaus we all suffered. News should not be for profit.
CNN was a very noble idea. and I believe in my heart that Ted Turner has very good intentions -- but a 24 hour news service needs money-- Perhaps had CNN become a loss leader for the cable empire we would not be in this place.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 14:58:48
Raine on 12/29/2011 14:58:48
I look forward to Livin to chime in here.
CNN does have an international channel. That said how much world news can be covered? Should we live in a constant state of tragedy?
I'm not saying ignore the news of the world -- I am asking this, I guess -- is it wrong to want to know forst and foremost the news that affects our Nation? Korea and Iran are very good examples. Those stories affect our national security. Europe affects our economy....
I think the biggest problem is that we no longer have a media that explains to us WHY these are important stories. It's tossed out there like it's the latest TMZ scoop. Many people treat it that way.
Our news media doesn't do what it used to do: educate people about a story -- and perhaps that is the saddest and biggest problem: People used to read newspapers for the backstory.
Newspapers (print media -- including magazines) used to compliment Television news.
CNN does have an international channel. That said how much world news can be covered? Should we live in a constant state of tragedy?
I'm not saying ignore the news of the world -- I am asking this, I guess -- is it wrong to want to know forst and foremost the news that affects our Nation? Korea and Iran are very good examples. Those stories affect our national security. Europe affects our economy....
I think the biggest problem is that we no longer have a media that explains to us WHY these are important stories. It's tossed out there like it's the latest TMZ scoop. Many people treat it that way.
Our news media doesn't do what it used to do: educate people about a story -- and perhaps that is the saddest and biggest problem: People used to read newspapers for the backstory.
Newspapers (print media -- including magazines) used to compliment Television news.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 15:13:00
Raine on 12/29/2011 15:13:00
Maybe with the onslaught of the internet -- we have become hyper informed. That is a good thing if one knows how to used that information responsibly.
As the OP pointed out, the world didn't stop. I think that applies to international news as well.
20 years ago -- we would have read about the protests in Russia -- we would not be lamenting that the media didn't report *enough* of it.
We would have been informed about it and moved on, until the next story was printed in the newspaper or shown on TV.
As the OP pointed out, the world didn't stop. I think that applies to international news as well.
20 years ago -- we would have read about the protests in Russia -- we would not be lamenting that the media didn't report *enough* of it.
We would have been informed about it and moved on, until the next story was printed in the newspaper or shown on TV.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 15:22:57
Raine on 12/29/2011 15:22:57
BTW, from the link I posted before about the News Hour: I would honestly disagree with assuming the viewer is smart.
Years ago, I would have agreed. Years ago we didn't have Fox news. It is a scourge upon our nation. It really is.
On December 4, 2009, when introducing the new PBS NewsHour format, Jim Lehrer read out a list of guidelines in what he referred to as "MacNeil / Lehrer journalism."
They are as follows:
"Do nothing I cannot defend.
"Cover, write, and present every story with the care I would want if the story were about me.
"Assume there is at least one other side or version to every story.
"Assume the viewer is as smart and as caring and as good a person as I am.
"Assume the same about all people on whom I report.
"Assume personal lives are a private matter until a legitimate turn in the story absolutely mandates otherwise.
"Carefully separate opinion and analysis from straight news stories, and clearly label everything.
"Do not use anonymous sources or blind quotes except on rare and monumental occasions.
"No one should ever be allowed to attack another anonymously.
"And finally, I am not in the entertainment business."
Years ago, I would have agreed. Years ago we didn't have Fox news. It is a scourge upon our nation. It really is.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 15:32:04
I don't think he's saying to assume the viewer is smart in general, he's saying in that one should assume the person hearing the news story is as smart as the person reporting it. Viewers don't like to be talked down to, nor do they like things to go over their heads. He's just saying talk to them on the same level that you are
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 15:32:04
Quote by Raine:
BTW, from the link I posted before about the News Hour:I would honestly disagree with assuming the viewer is smart.On December 4, 2009, when introducing the new PBS NewsHour format, Jim Lehrer read out a list of guidelines in what he referred to as "MacNeil / Lehrer journalism."
They are as follows:
"Do nothing I cannot defend.
"Cover, write, and present every story with the care I would want if the story were about me.
"Assume there is at least one other side or version to every story.
"Assume the viewer is as smart and as caring and as good a person as I am.
"Assume the same about all people on whom I report.
"Assume personal lives are a private matter until a legitimate turn in the story absolutely mandates otherwise.
"Carefully separate opinion and analysis from straight news stories, and clearly label everything.
"Do not use anonymous sources or blind quotes except on rare and monumental occasions.
"No one should ever be allowed to attack another anonymously.
"And finally, I am not in the entertainment business."
Years ago, I would have agreed. Years ago we didn't have Fox news. It is a scourge upon our nation. It really is.
I don't think he's saying to assume the viewer is smart in general, he's saying in that one should assume the person hearing the news story is as smart as the person reporting it. Viewers don't like to be talked down to, nor do they like things to go over their heads. He's just saying talk to them on the same level that you are
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 15:39:48
Yes, that makes sense. Perhaps I took that the wrong way.
Raine on 12/29/2011 15:39:48
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't think he's saying to assume the viewer is smart in general, he's saying in that one should assume the person hearing the news story is as smart as the person reporting it. Viewers don't like to be talked down to, nor do they like things to go over their heads. He's just saying talk to them on the same level that you are
Comment by TriSec on 12/29/2011 15:40:56
TriSec on 12/29/2011 15:40:56
"And finally, I am not in the entertainment business."
That's it. That's the one. Everyone expects news to be entertainment now. You can only sell so many ads when there's dead bodies bobbing in a tsunami. It's like they have to throw in something light, "or we'll lose viewers". But then, how do you explain the other side of the coin, which the latest example was the incessant rerunning of the footage of the planes going in...at least until people started to complain about it.
That's it. That's the one. Everyone expects news to be entertainment now. You can only sell so many ads when there's dead bodies bobbing in a tsunami. It's like they have to throw in something light, "or we'll lose viewers". But then, how do you explain the other side of the coin, which the latest example was the incessant rerunning of the footage of the planes going in...at least until people started to complain about it.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 15:44:57
No I am not playing into that meme. I base that on my (granted small sample size here) the comments etc of one of relatives. She is exactly what I describing, she lives in her own bubble of snobby liberalism.
What was going to say was exactly what Raine ended up talking about in her posts.
Full disclosure, I do read stuff from the Beeb and The Guardian sites, but mostly it is footie related. Try finding a US based news outlet that has any indepth coverage of football (soccer, you pesants!).
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 15:44:57
Quote by TriSec:
I must disagree with the esteemed gentleman from Jacksonville.
I don't think it's a weird form of liberal snobbery at all...you're playing right into the right-wing meme that liberals are indeed the better-educated 'snobs'. When did it become a bad thing to be well-informed? You do make a valid point that the average American gets most of their news from the tevee, but wouldn't we all be better if that source was much improved instead of the Goebbels-like propaganda that they usually spew?
I have been unable to have lucid discussions with certain of my relatives who rely on the Faux; their worldview is so far from reality that it's impossible to even make a valid point without running into a twisted talking point. That doesn't make us better, that makes us all worse.
So yeah...I will continue to whine and lament the quality of so-called news organizations, and will continue to rely on my multitude of sources. I'd rather be that snob. If wearing that label is the price I pay, then so be it.
No I am not playing into that meme. I base that on my (granted small sample size here) the comments etc of one of relatives. She is exactly what I describing, she lives in her own bubble of snobby liberalism.
What was going to say was exactly what Raine ended up talking about in her posts.
Full disclosure, I do read stuff from the Beeb and The Guardian sites, but mostly it is footie related. Try finding a US based news outlet that has any indepth coverage of football (soccer, you pesants!).
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 15:46:40
Or when they do show carnage and death, 'Some viewer might find the images disturbing." WTF?? Network coverage of Viet Nam never had that caviat.
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 15:46:40
Quote by TriSec:
"And finally, I am not in the entertainment business."
That's it. That's the one. Everyone expects news to be entertainment now. You can only sell so many ads when there's dead bodies bobbing in a tsunami. It's like they have to throw in something light, "or we'll lose viewers". But then, how do you explain the other side of the coin, which the latest example was the incessant rerunning of the footage of the planes going in...at least until people started to complain about it.
Or when they do show carnage and death, 'Some viewer might find the images disturbing." WTF?? Network coverage of Viet Nam never had that caviat.
Comment by BobR on 12/29/2011 16:03:04
The local news also seems to have no qualms of showing blood on the sidewalk while reporting the latest drug violence. I think local news tends to skew the opposite direction, reporting every murder, fire, car accident, etc. as Important News. How does that affect me? It doesn't - show me some news that's important to know.
BobR on 12/29/2011 16:03:04
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
"And finally, I am not in the entertainment business."
That's it. That's the one. Everyone expects news to be entertainment now. You can only sell so many ads when there's dead bodies bobbing in a tsunami. It's like they have to throw in something light, "or we'll lose viewers". But then, how do you explain the other side of the coin, which the latest example was the incessant rerunning of the footage of the planes going in...at least until people started to complain about it.
Or when they do show carnage and death, 'Some viewer might find the images disturbing." WTF?? Network coverage of Viet Nam never had that caviat.
The local news also seems to have no qualms of showing blood on the sidewalk while reporting the latest drug violence. I think local news tends to skew the opposite direction, reporting every murder, fire, car accident, etc. as Important News. How does that affect me? It doesn't - show me some news that's important to know.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/29/2011 16:04:20
Will in Chicago on 12/29/2011 16:04:20
Good morning, bloggers!! I hope that everyone is well.
I tend to rely on alternative news sources greatly, and check a lot of foreign sources. (In addition to previously mentioned sources, I would also recommend Haaretz, a liberal Israeli daily. I have found stuff about our Congress that did not get into some of the U.S. sources.
In some good personal news, my flight to Boston to take the Massachusetts teaching tests that I need is confirmed for early March 2nd. (The test is pretty much all day Saturday, but I plan to do some sight seeing Friday and on Sunday.)
I tend to rely on alternative news sources greatly, and check a lot of foreign sources. (In addition to previously mentioned sources, I would also recommend Haaretz, a liberal Israeli daily. I have found stuff about our Congress that did not get into some of the U.S. sources.
In some good personal news, my flight to Boston to take the Massachusetts teaching tests that I need is confirmed for early March 2nd. (The test is pretty much all day Saturday, but I plan to do some sight seeing Friday and on Sunday.)
Comment by BobR on 12/29/2011 16:10:07
BobR on 12/29/2011 16:10:07
how did we miss this???
*** HAPPY BIRTHDAY SCOOPSTER!! ***
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:19:42
Yes! Happy Birthday Scoop!
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:19:42
Quote by BobR:
how did we miss this???*** HAPPY BIRTHDAY SCOOPSTER!! ***
Yes! Happy Birthday Scoop!
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 16:29:38
The local "news" here is particularly awful in that area. Fiesty grandmas fighting off attackers are Wal Mart. Etc.
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 16:29:38
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
"And finally, I am not in the entertainment business."
That's it. That's the one. Everyone expects news to be entertainment now. You can only sell so many ads when there's dead bodies bobbing in a tsunami. It's like they have to throw in something light, "or we'll lose viewers". But then, how do you explain the other side of the coin, which the latest example was the incessant rerunning of the footage of the planes going in...at least until people started to complain about it.
Or when they do show carnage and death, 'Some viewer might find the images disturbing." WTF?? Network coverage of Viet Nam never had that caviat.
The local news also seems to have no qualms of showing blood on the sidewalk while reporting the latest drug violence. I think local news tends to skew the opposite direction, reporting every murder, fire, car accident, etc. as Important News. How does that affect me? It doesn't - show me some news that's important to know.
The local "news" here is particularly awful in that area. Fiesty grandmas fighting off attackers are Wal Mart. Etc.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/29/2011 16:29:52
Will in Chicago on 12/29/2011 16:29:52
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HOOPSTER!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:34:11
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:34:11
oh, it is green960 that's flipping to knew next week. dang it now I have to find another station with the same line up to listen to
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 16:34:14
SAY WHAT!!??!!
Scoop! Happy Birthday!
Raine on 12/29/2011 16:34:14
Scoop! Happy Birthday!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/29/2011 16:34:55
Will in Chicago on 12/29/2011 16:34:55
Holy typos, Batman!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SCOOPSTER!!
In honor of Scoopster's birthday, I present the following compilation.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SCOOPSTER!!
In honor of Scoopster's birthday, I present the following compilation.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 16:35:32
I listen to Chicago until Noon. then seattle -- then I go to KTLK.
I think KTLK carries Tom at noon.
Raine on 12/29/2011 16:35:32
Quote by wickedpam:
oh, it is green960 that's flipping to knew next week. dang it now I have to find another station with the same line up to listen to
I think KTLK carries Tom at noon.
Comment by Scoopster on 12/29/2011 16:35:44
oooh man it's gonna be a long day! Thanks guys!
Scoopster on 12/29/2011 16:35:44
oooh man it's gonna be a long day! Thanks guys!
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 16:41:25
LOL.
What's a hipster again? I thought it was a fashion statement?
Raine on 12/29/2011 16:41:25
Quote by Scoopster:
OH GAWD.. CONSERVATIVE HIPSTERS?!
LOL.
What's a hipster again? I thought it was a fashion statement?
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 16:42:21
Raine on 12/29/2011 16:42:21
From here on in, I will attempt to type this in place of LOL:
Elohel. That might give me some hipster cred.
Elohel. That might give me some hipster cred.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:44:21
I"m a lazy listener, don't want to jump around to different stations
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:44:21
Quote by Raine:I listen to Chicago until Noon. then seattle -- then I go to KTLK.Quote by wickedpam:
oh, it is green960 that's flipping to knew next week. dang it now I have to find another station with the same line up to listen to
I think KTLK carries Tom at noon.
I"m a lazy listener, don't want to jump around to different stations
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 16:48:00
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 16:48:00
Happy birthday to ya Senior Scoop!.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 16:48:34
KTLK has Momma, Tom and Randi. So, you won't have to.
The only reason I jump is that I like using iTunes to listen to Tom and Momma. KTLK is iHeart radio for streaming. So, I think you will be good to go with KTLK, Mala.
Raine on 12/29/2011 16:48:34
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I listen to Chicago until Noon. then seattle -- then I go to KTLK.Quote by wickedpam:
oh, it is green960 that's flipping to knew next week. dang it now I have to find another station with the same line up to listen to
I think KTLK carries Tom at noon.
I"m a lazy listener, don't want to jump around to different stations
The only reason I jump is that I like using iTunes to listen to Tom and Momma. KTLK is iHeart radio for streaming. So, I think you will be good to go with KTLK, Mala.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:50:21
in my experience its a jerk who thinks he's cool and shops and Abercombie style mall stores
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:50:21
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
OH GAWD.. CONSERVATIVE HIPSTERS?!
LOL.
What's a hipster again? I thought it was a fashion statement?
in my experience its a jerk who thinks he's cool and shops and Abercombie style mall stores
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:50:57
Yea! You saved me!
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 16:50:57
Quote by Raine:KTLK has Momma, Tom and Randi. So, you won't have to.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I listen to Chicago until Noon. then seattle -- then I go to KTLK.Quote by wickedpam:
oh, it is green960 that's flipping to knew next week. dang it now I have to find another station with the same line up to listen to
I think KTLK carries Tom at noon.
I"m a lazy listener, don't want to jump around to different stations
The only reason I jump is that I like using iTunes to listen to Tom and Momma. KTLK is iHeart radio for streaming. So, I think you will be good to go with KTLK, Mala.
Yea! You saved me!
Comment by Scoopster on 12/29/2011 16:51:37
From the ever-relevant Urban Dictionary... it's more of a full counter-culture lifestyle & movement.
Scoopster on 12/29/2011 16:51:37
Quote by Raine:Quote by Scoopster:
OH GAWD.. CONSERVATIVE HIPSTERS?!
LOL.
What's a hipster again? I thought it was a fashion statement?
From the ever-relevant Urban Dictionary... it's more of a full counter-culture lifestyle & movement.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 16:59:25
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 16:59:25
Comment by 
livingonli on 12/29/2011 17:05:40
livingonli on 12/29/2011 17:05:40
Good morning everyone. It seems like CNN (the US version) has gone to crap since Time Warner pushed Turner out of the board of the merged company and Time Warner has become more profit focused. And when Fixed Noise picked up the ratings after 9-11, the US news channels all felt they had to start copying their approach which really made all the US news channels craptacular. It wasn't until Keith Olbermann started to pick up ratings that MSNBC began to pursue the direction that they are in now and it seems that Current TV is also now trying to go that way. We will have to see what Jennifer Granholm's show looks like but it will be on the same time as Rachel. Thank goodness for re-airs. Turner actually created CNN International because once CNN went global, other parts of the world grew weary of the American-centered focus on the CNN and Headline News content that had been previously on the international feed. At least my cable system does carry BBC World and EuroNews, and I do get a variety of international content, political talk, and Democracy Now on Free Speech TV and Link TV off of DirecTV. At least in the DC area, you are lucky that MHz Networks (WNVC and WNVT) runs international news on their various channels like France 24, Al-Jazeera English and RT.
It looks like next week, I will be going back to KTLK at least in the daytime although I have to find a new way to stream Malloy (or just use the SiriusXM app on my phone) since it doesn't seem that many stations stream him live anymore besides the soon-to-be switched Green 960.
Happy Birthday Scoopster!
Boy I had a lot to say for one post.
It looks like next week, I will be going back to KTLK at least in the daytime although I have to find a new way to stream Malloy (or just use the SiriusXM app on my phone) since it doesn't seem that many stations stream him live anymore besides the soon-to-be switched Green 960.
Happy Birthday Scoopster!
Boy I had a lot to say for one post.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 17:11:40
Raine on 12/29/2011 17:11:40
This is interesting. VERY interesting, to be quite honest.
Looks like congress took away some of the national mall.
Looks like congress took away some of the national mall.
Union Square, the photogenic parcel of the Mall that the National Park Service had envisioned as a First Amendment demonstration space, is quietly being transferred to the jurisdiction of the Architect of the Capitol.
Control of the square, which contains the Grant Memorial and Capitol Reflecting Pool just west of the Capitol, is being switched through a provision in a new omnibus spending bill, largely out of security concerns.
Park Service officials, who historians say have had jurisdiction over the 11-acre square since the 1930s, were surprised by the action.
The service had long-range plans for the square to be turned into a multi-use area for demonstrations, gatherings and entertainment. And the Trust for the National Mall is in the midst of a competition for the redesign of the square and other parts of the Mall.
The spending bill states: “To the extent that the Director of the National Park Service has jurisdiction and control over any portion of the area . . . and any monument or other facility which is located within such area, such jurisdiction and control is hereby transferred to the Architect of the Capitol.â€
Comment by Scoopster on 12/29/2011 17:12:40
Scoopster on 12/29/2011 17:12:40
BTW, CNN International is excellent. Very reminiscent of the old Turner CNN or BBC News.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 18:31:19
Liv, the CNN -Time Warner merger predated the disater that was the AOL-Time Warner merger. Are you talking about when the AOL-TW stock tanked and they purged Turner and all the other pro-merger people?
Mondobubba on 12/29/2011 18:31:19
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone. It seems like CNN (the US version) has gone to crap since Time Warner pushed Turner out of the board of the merged company and Time Warner has become more profit focused. And when Fixed Noise picked up the ratings after 9-11, the US news channels all felt they had to start copying their approach which really made all the US news channels craptacular. It wasn't until Keith Olbermann started to pick up ratings that MSNBC began to pursue the direction that they are in now and it seems that Current TV is also now trying to go that way. We will have to see what Jennifer Granholm's show looks like but it will be on the same time as Rachel. Thank goodness for re-airs. Turner actually created CNN International because once CNN went global, other parts of the world grew weary of the American-centered focus on the CNN and Headline News content that had been previously on the international feed. At least my cable system does carry BBC World and EuroNews, and I do get a variety of international content, political talk, and Democracy Now on Free Speech TV and Link TV off of DirecTV. At least in the DC area, you are lucky that MHz Networks (WNVC and WNVT) runs international news on their various channels like France 24, Al-Jazeera English and RT.
It looks like next week, I will be going back to KTLK at least in the daytime although I have to find a new way to stream Malloy (or just use the SiriusXM app on my phone) since it doesn't seem that many stations stream him live anymore besides the soon-to-be switched Green 960.
Happy Birthday Scoopster!
Boy I had a lot to say for one post.
Liv, the CNN -Time Warner merger predated the disater that was the AOL-Time Warner merger. Are you talking about when the AOL-TW stock tanked and they purged Turner and all the other pro-merger people?
Comment by 
clintster on 12/29/2011 19:10:55
Let me guess: they listen to Ted Nugent and Hank Williams Jr. ironically.
clintster on 12/29/2011 19:10:55
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
OH GAWD.. CONSERVATIVE HIPSTERS?!
This comes as no shock to me.
Let me guess: they listen to Ted Nugent and Hank Williams Jr. ironically.
Comment by livingonli on 12/29/2011 19:38:47
I have often heard that many of the negative changes to CNN occurred after Turner was purged because I think he did want some degree of purity with CNN that was different from the entertainment movies although Turner Classic Movies does maintain some purity in running classic films which countered his whole colorization pitch in the 80's and 90's.
livingonli on 12/29/2011 19:38:47
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone. It seems like CNN (the US version) has gone to crap since Time Warner pushed Turner out of the board of the merged company and Time Warner has become more profit focused. And when Fixed Noise picked up the ratings after 9-11, the US news channels all felt they had to start copying their approach which really made all the US news channels craptacular. It wasn't until Keith Olbermann started to pick up ratings that MSNBC began to pursue the direction that they are in now and it seems that Current TV is also now trying to go that way. We will have to see what Jennifer Granholm's show looks like but it will be on the same time as Rachel. Thank goodness for re-airs. Turner actually created CNN International because once CNN went global, other parts of the world grew weary of the American-centered focus on the CNN and Headline News content that had been previously on the international feed. At least my cable system does carry BBC World and EuroNews, and I do get a variety of international content, political talk, and Democracy Now on Free Speech TV and Link TV off of DirecTV. At least in the DC area, you are lucky that MHz Networks (WNVC and WNVT) runs international news on their various channels like France 24, Al-Jazeera English and RT.
It looks like next week, I will be going back to KTLK at least in the daytime although I have to find a new way to stream Malloy (or just use the SiriusXM app on my phone) since it doesn't seem that many stations stream him live anymore besides the soon-to-be switched Green 960.
Happy Birthday Scoopster!
Boy I had a lot to say for one post.
Liv, the CNN -Time Warner merger predated the disater that was the AOL-Time Warner merger. Are you talking about when the AOL-TW stock tanked and they purged Turner and all the other pro-merger people?
I have often heard that many of the negative changes to CNN occurred after Turner was purged because I think he did want some degree of purity with CNN that was different from the entertainment movies although Turner Classic Movies does maintain some purity in running classic films which countered his whole colorization pitch in the 80's and 90's.
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 20:48:34
Raine on 12/29/2011 20:48:34
Mala, are you here?
What are the call letters for the new prog station here in dc going to be?
What are the call letters for the new prog station here in dc going to be?
Comment by wickedpam on 12/29/2011 20:52:30
WPWC 1480 I think - oddly its from Prince WIlliam county, I'm hoping I'll get some kinds of listenable signal
wickedpam on 12/29/2011 20:52:30
Quote by Raine:
Mala, are you here?
What are the call letters for the new prog station here in dc going to be?
WPWC 1480 I think - oddly its from Prince WIlliam county, I'm hoping I'll get some kinds of listenable signal
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 20:53:01
Raine on 12/29/2011 20:53:01
Was it 1480am?
Comment by Raine on 12/29/2011 20:53:43
Thanks, mala.
Raine on 12/29/2011 20:53:43
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mala, are you here?
What are the call letters for the new prog station here in dc going to be?
WPWC 1480 I think - oddly its from Prince WIlliam county, I'm hoping I'll get some kinds of listenable signal