The words on the monument, edited not by a historian but by an architect concerned about space, are a ham-handed truncation of what Dr. King said, turning a conditional statement into a boast. The sermon is complex and open to interpretation, but one thing is clear: Dr. King does not claim to be a drum major for anything. The whole speech, in fact, is about the evils of self-promotion.
“The Drum-Major Instinct,” which Dr. King delivered on Feb. 4, 1968, is about the folly of wanting to feel important, of seeking recognition and praise. That is a basic human impulse, he said, but it is dangerous and can lead to many social ills, including bigotry: “A lot of the race problem grows out of the drum major instinct, a need that some people have to feel that they are first and feel that their white skin ordained them to be first.”
“The quote makes Dr. Martin Luther King look like an arrogant twit,” Angelou, 83, said Tuesday. “He was anything but that. He was far too profound a man for that four-letter word to apply.
“He had no arrogance at all,” she said. “He had a humility that comes from deep inside. The ‘if’ clause that is left out is salient. Leaving it out changes the meaning completely.”
The paraphrase “minimizes the man,” she said. “It makes him seem less than the humanitarian he was. . . . It makes him seem an egotist.”
“I do not think it’s an accurate portrayal of what Dr. King was,” Salazar told us Friday.
How sweet, then, that King can still be giving to us on his 83rd birthday, though he lived for only 39 of them. He can give us this story of many different Americans using their tools at hand — celebrity, media, commerce, satire, academia — to ask their government to right a wrong.
And King, a lover of words and a profound symbol to all of us, demanded action. Because of him, at least this time, the system worked.
Quote by Mondobubba:
So, how about that Thebault (correct spelling of "Tebow" cause it's French)?
Quote by TriSec:
Mr. Tebow was gracious in defeat (at least it was reported in the Globe.) That rather speaks volumes; he could have been a dick about it.
Grudging respect? Not yet. But some potential.
Quote by Raine:I think this article is a fair assessment.Quote by TriSec:
Mr. Tebow was gracious in defeat (at least it was reported in the Globe.) That rather speaks volumes; he could have been a dick about it.
Grudging respect? Not yet. But some potential.
Gracious? One could argue that... however...
It appears to me that he's using his opportunity to play football to further his evangelicalism I think. Read the article, and tell me what you think.
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
So, how about that Thebault (correct spelling of "Tebow" cause it's French)?
The French spelling would require the accent on the second syllable
Quote by TriSec:
Well, I don't see his evangelism as much of an issue. He's famous; using that fame to advance his position is a tried and true part of America. Everyone from actors to the Unabomber has done that.
What I don't care for though, is outside groups attempting to jump on his coattails; there was an ad for "Focus on the Family" during the game, and we've heard that they have made a buy for the AFC title game, too. (Probably in advance, just in case Denver won.)
Quote by Raine:
Perhaps you forgot that Tebow did an ad for FotF during last years superbowl?
Quote by TriSec:
It is interesting though, that he did this big prayer circle rather publicly in the stadium tunnel and then got all snappy about it. Don't do it in public, then.
That plays into the "arrogance" aspect of it. I wouldn't care what Westboro Baptist was doing, but since they go out of there way to make a spectacle...expect a backlash.
(I know that's an extreme example, but you should see my point.)
Afterward, Tebow described what a few weeks ago had the feel of a breakout season as one of “ups and downs.†He said he tried to tune out the overwhelming attention, but at the same time was grateful for the platform it gave him to spread the word and continue his good works.
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:I think this article is a fair assessment.Quote by TriSec:
Mr. Tebow was gracious in defeat (at least it was reported in the Globe.) That rather speaks volumes; he could have been a dick about it.
Grudging respect? Not yet. But some potential.
Gracious? One could argue that... however...
It appears to me that he's using his opportunity to play football to further his evangelicalism I think. Read the article, and tell me what you think.
That article is very fair and balanced. If I were a religious person, I might be inclined to feel that dragging prayer onto the playing field cheapens the religion. To me, believing that God gets involved in a cash-driven sports game is the height of hubris and disrespect.
Quote by TriSec:
2 seconds on the Wiki. Don't know if any or all are currently active. Like to see what happens if one faced East and prostrated after a big play.
Muslims in the NFL:
Hamza Abdullah - Safety player for the Cleveland Browns[130][131]
Husain Abdullah - Safety player for the Minnesota Vikings[132]
Az-Zahir Hakim - Wide receiver player formerly for the St. Louis Rams[133]
Ryan Harris[134]
Abdul Hodge - Linebacker for the Carolina Panthers.[9]
Ahmad RashÄd - Former player for Minnesota Vikings, award winning sports-caster (converted in 1972)[135][136]
Ephraim Salaam - Offensive tackle player for the Detroit Lions[137]
Muhammad Wilkerson - Defensive end for the New York Jets[138]
Usama Young - Free safety player for the New Orleans Saints[139]
Quote by TriSec:
2 seconds on the Wiki. Don't know if any or all are currently active. Like to see what happens if one faced East and prostrated after a big play.
Muslims in the NFL:
Hamza Abdullah - Safety player for the Cleveland Browns[130][131]
Husain Abdullah - Safety player for the Minnesota Vikings[132]
Az-Zahir Hakim - Wide receiver player formerly for the St. Louis Rams[133]
Ryan Harris[134]
Abdul Hodge - Linebacker for the Carolina Panthers.[9]
Ahmad RashÄÂd - Former player for Minnesota Vikings, award winning sports-caster (converted in 1972)[135][136]
Ephraim Salaam - Offensive tackle player for the Detroit Lions[137]
Muhammad Wilkerson - Defensive end for the New York Jets[138]
Usama Young - Free safety player for the New Orleans Saints[139]
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:I think this article is a fair assessment.Quote by TriSec:
Mr. Tebow was gracious in defeat (at least it was reported in the Globe.) That rather speaks volumes; he could have been a dick about it.
Grudging respect? Not yet. But some potential.
Gracious? One could argue that... however...
It appears to me that he's using his opportunity to play football to further his evangelicalism I think. Read the article, and tell me what you think.
That article is very fair and balanced. If I were a religious person, I might be inclined to feel that dragging prayer onto the playing field cheapens the religion. To me, believing that God gets involved in a cash-driven sports game is the height of hubris and disrespect.
There is a verse in the Bible that says something about don't pray in public.
Quote by TriSec:
Sweater, check. Sweatshirt, check. Hands turning red from standing in the kitchen running hot water over them for the last five minutes, check.
Honestly, I was warmer Saturday morning leading a hike in 5 degree wind-chill.
Quote by wickedpam:
I can't stand Seton Motley
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
I can't stand Seton Motley
Is that who this person is?
He's Smarmy.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:I think this article is a fair assessment.Quote by TriSec:
Mr. Tebow was gracious in defeat (at least it was reported in the Globe.) That rather speaks volumes; he could have been a dick about it.
Grudging respect? Not yet. But some potential.
Gracious? One could argue that... however...
It appears to me that he's using his opportunity to play football to further his evangelicalism I think. Read the article, and tell me what you think.
That article is very fair and balanced. If I were a religious person, I might be inclined to feel that dragging prayer onto the playing field cheapens the religion. To me, believing that God gets involved in a cash-driven sports game is the height of hubris and disrespect.
There is a verse in the Bible that says something about don't pray in public.
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. Matthew 6:5
Quote by Raine:Perhaps you forgot that Tebow did an ad for FotF during last years superbowl?Quote by TriSec:
Well, I don't see his evangelism as much of an issue. He's famous; using that fame to advance his position is a tried and true part of America. Everyone from actors to the Unabomber has done that.
What I don't care for though, is outside groups attempting to jump on his coattails; there was an ad for "Focus on the Family" during the game, and we've heard that they have made a buy for the AFC title game, too. (Probably in advance, just in case Denver won.)
HE can be as evangelical as he wants -- he's using the NFL to do so. I have a BIG problem with that.
Pocus on the family didn;t have to jump on coattails --
Quote by Scoopster:
Fuck the wut?!
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Raine:Perhaps you forgot that Tebow did an ad for FotF during last years superbowl?Quote by TriSec:
Well, I don't see his evangelism as much of an issue. He's famous; using that fame to advance his position is a tried and true part of America. Everyone from actors to the Unabomber has done that.
What I don't care for though, is outside groups attempting to jump on his coattails; there was an ad for "Focus on the Family" during the game, and we've heard that they have made a buy for the AFC title game, too. (Probably in advance, just in case Denver won.)
HE can be as evangelical as he wants -- he's using the NFL to do so. I have a BIG problem with that.
Pocus on the family didn;t have to jump on coattails --
I knew he did an anti-choice ad during last year's Superb Owl, but didn't know it was FotF related (I keep the TiVo's FF/pause/REW/mute buttons at the ready for any ads). And that ad is what I'm sure turns many off to him (including me). If it wasn't for that ad I might actually like the guy....first impressions and all that.
Raine, you may find my support of the Giants will vary wildly during the next few weeks, for while I have friends (you) and family (B-I-L) who are Giants fans, they are the team I fear the most (they have a defense and have beaten the Pats before)
Having said that, a Superb Owl rematch would be a lot of fun and I'm sure the NFL and NBC wouldn't mind.
Only one +5K yard passer remains.
Looks like Tebow will be behind the desk at the AFCC.
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Fuck the wut?!
I'd laugh at this, but it is so appalling. Who says this kinda stuff and means it?
Well I am sure that the very tolerant *cough* gentleman from Virginia must be happy that I didn't give birth to a child because I excercised my CHOICE to not become a mother.
There is a greater point to be made here: What kind of a person thinks they can decide that ANY child is a punishment? These are children -- they are humans. I find it highly disturbing that he would deem a human being defective and punishment for people who do not share his personal worldview.
Quote by Raine:
Nice to know that HE thinks he speaks on behalf of god.
Quote by Raine:The more I think about it, I honestly believe it FAR worse than that.Quote by Raine:
Nice to know that HE thinks he speaks on behalf of god.
I thought, according to many christian beliefs -- all children were perfect in the eye of god. According to him -- they are a punishment to women who have made a choice to not produce at a point of time in in their lives and may have found a different circumstance to do so later.
That is just a horrible position to take.
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:The more I think about it, I honestly believe it FAR worse than that.Quote by Raine:
Nice to know that HE thinks he speaks on behalf of god.
I thought, according to many christian beliefs -- all children were perfect in the eye of god. According to him -- they are a punishment to women who have made a choice to not produce at a point of time in in their lives and may have found a different circumstance to do so later.
That is just a horrible position to take.
Does he even realize how appalling a position that is. How offensive it is to people with special needs kids :coughSarahPalincough:?
As I said the other day, I don’t run around accusing progressives who have different political priorities than I do of being driven by racial and religious bias. I genuinely recognize that there are all sorts of benign and even noble reasons why one might have different political priorities or might even value partisan loyalty more than I do. But there is one thing I know for certain: to smear with this kind of innuendo those insisting on the prioritization of war and civil liberties issues or devoting oneself to these causes is indescribably irrational and reckless. One driven by racial or other forms of privilege would seek to de-prioritize or ignore these issues, not highlight them. Indeed, a primary reason why these fully bipartisan policies of Endless War and civil liberties assaults largely go unchallenged is precisely because their primary victims are anything but privileged. That’s exactly why these issues are not a distraction from the cause of equality; they are an embodiment of it.
Leaving aside the fact that (as I detail in the discussion with Pollitt), numerous women and people of color have made the same points about the vital benefits of Paul’s candidacy — voices which these accusers tellingly ignore and silence — these accusations are pure projection. Those who were operating from such privilege would not seek to prioritize issues of war and civil liberties; that’s because it isn’t white progressives and their families who are directly harmed by these heinous policies. The opposite is true: it’s very easy, very tempting, for those driven by this type of “privilege†— for non-Muslims in particular– to decide that these issues are not urgent, that Endless War and civil liberties abuses by a President should not be disqualifying or can be tolerated, precisely because these non-Muslim progressive accusers are not acutely affected by them. The kind of “privilege†these accusers raise would cause one to de-prioritize and accept civil liberties abuses, drone slaughter, indefinite detention and the like (i.e, do what they themselves do), not demand that significant attention be paid to them when assessing political choices.