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Iran... so far away...
Author: BobR    Date: 06/11/2008 12:13:05

Where have we heard this before? Tough talk, then sanctions, then...?

Bush has been in Europe, banging the drum for war with Iran. After dragging our allies into Iraq with false intelligence, you'd think they'd bounce his ass out the door. No, instead they're trying to be responsible, sort of an intervention, and push for sanctions instead:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel told President George W. Bush on Saturday she would be willing to support a third round of U.N. sanctions against Iran if Tehran continues to resist demands to halt sensitive nuclear work.

Merkel, in a visit to Bush's ranch in Crawford, also said she would consider possible cuts in her country's brisk trade flows with Iran should other efforts fail to secure Tehran's cooperation over its nuclear program.

Bush agreed with Merkel that diplomacy was the best way to resolve the standoff with Iran.

"We were at one in saying that the threat posed through the nuclear program of Iran is indeed a serious one," Merkel said at a joint news conference with Bush.

"We both share this view, but we also were of the opinion that we think that this issue can be solved through diplomatic means; that the next step, then, obviously, would be a resolution," she said through a translator.

What?? Dimplomatic means?? - That's appeasement talk!

We had sanctions against Iraq too, and it was the voilation of rules set down by those sanctions that Bush used as a justification to use military force. That may be his plan again, despite the best intentions of several groups:
An unusual coalition of interest groups from left and right is launching a drive today to head off an American military attack on Iran by pushing America into high-level negotiations with Tehran.

The Campaign for a New American Policy on Iran, which bills itself as "transpartisan," consists of more than three dozen organizations, most of them left-leaning, such as the American Friends Service Committee, the Institute for Policy Studies, and the Open Society Policy Center, which is backed by George Soros.

However, the campaign also has the backing of a smattering of right-of-center groups, including the American Conservative Defense Alliance, the Libertarian Party, and the American Cause, which is headed by Patrick Buchanan.

"The current rumor here in Washington is that Bush will attack after the November elections so it won't hurt the Republican nominee politically. Many around him say he feels he has to do something before he leaves office," a campaign organizer, Carah Ong of the Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation, said. "Part of this is to raise the fact that a military attack is likely and it needs to be prevented."

(He's worried about hurting McCain? When you have Tom DeLay saying that the GOP is losing, and Ron Paul planning a parallel convention, you can't get much worse...)

So once again Bush is pushing for war instead of diplomacy, for no better reason than his legacy, and despite evidence that it's not even close to necessary. Remember the NIE late last year?:
A new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) released today concludes with “high confidence” that “in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program.” From the report’s findings:

We assess with moderate confidence Tehran had not restarted its nuclear weapons program as of mid-2007, but we do not know whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons.

We continue to assess with moderate-to-high confidence that Iran does not currently have a nuclear weapon.

Tehran’s decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005.

He knows they're not an immediate threat (which is absolutely the only reason to go to war pre-emptively), and yet he still wants to do it. The military leaders have to know this is criminal. I've read that if Bush were under impeachment proceedings, it would be very easy for them to refuse to obey his orders to strike. Last night Kucinich presented 35 articles of impeachment to the House. Constitutional scholar Jonathon Turley agrees it's way past time to do it. If nothing else, in the interests of preventing the unnecessary deaths of innocents in Iran, deaths of Americans in the assured response, and more billions of dollars wasted, Bush MUST be stopped. With impeachment, we get two for the price of one.

Time to make those phone calls...

UPDATE: More evidence Bush is heading down the same road as Iraq. He says "All options are on the table". You'd think he'd be smart enough to use a different phrase, but no...

 

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Comment by velveeta jones on 06/11/2008 12:27:51
Great post Bob!



I missed the loooooonnnnnngggggg reading of the articles of impeachment - I hear it went on for hours.



But I got angry last night when one of KO's commentators (forget which one at the moment) said the "Democrats are putting party before principals". SO TRUE!! The Dems and Congress better have some plan for bush either before or right after he leaves office, (war crimes?) or I will become BITTER!



:rage:

Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 12:36:45
Morning 'veeta! :coffee:



I for one don't plan to wait until the Dems decide to act. I've decided to start a movement to file a massive class action lawsuit against the Bush Administration. If the people running this country either refuse or are too chickenshit to go after him as a criminal, perhaps a more civil route is needed so to speak.

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 12:41:33
Diplomacy....what a concept.



I studied the Soviet Union in the middle 1980s. For a time, tensions in Europe were running high, and among the many concerns was the high number of SS-20 and Pershing II missiles in both Germanys pointing at each other.



Did we invade East Germany?



Look up Reykjavik 1987, and go to the Air and Space museum and look at those missiles now relegated to history in the Space Gallery and tell me how well diplomacy worked that time.



Iran is not an equal....but there's no reason not to talk to them as equals. I sure hope President Obama can resurrect something we used to call "detante" during the Cold War...





Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:06:41
Trying to listen again today...yesterday was a bust.



My manager is out today, and one of our morning meetings got canceled, so I have a chance now...



Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:11:24
Erm, I don't think any part of the US is in Atlantic Time there....





Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:11:59
See that? Chaos!



And now I'm sitting here talking to myself...



Dr. Ian Malcolm, Juraissic Park



Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 13:15:45
Quote by TriSec:

See that? Chaos!



And now I'm sitting here talking to myself...



Dr. Ian Malcolm, Juraissic Park



How does that make you feel? :nerd:





:P

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:16:08
*tap tap*



This thing on?



:modbat:



Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 13:17:11
I am here Tri... Just trying to get around the internets to spread the word for 4F.

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:20:17
"What the Fox????"







How far out of the loop am I with that one?



Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 13:20:44
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning 'veeta! :coffee:



I for one don't plan to wait until the Dems decide to act. I've decided to start a movement to file a massive class action lawsuit against the Bush Administration. If the people running this country either refuse or are too chickenshit to go after him as a criminal, perhaps a more civil route is needed so to speak.
I like this idea. .







Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:29:45
Oh lordy, I missed this show! Many of my co-workers have been glancing at me hunched over my desk snickering to myself...



TriSec's back, folks.... :party:





Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 13:29:50
Quote by Raine:

I am here Tri... Just trying to get around the internets to spread the word for 4F.




Such the 4F Ambassador...



Good morning all!

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 13:31:57
Hello all my friends here.

EVen those who wish i'd go away, hello.

Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 13:36:33
Quote by TriSec:

Oh lordy, I missed this show! Many of my co-workers have been glancing at me hunched over my desk snickering to myself...



TriSec's back, folks.... :party:


Woooooohooooo :banana:

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:37:38
Would the Republicans do well to remember the (likely apocryphal) words of Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto on the morning of 7 December 1941?



"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve..."



I was a babe of 2 years in that seminal year 1968.....but maybe something is happening here.





Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 13:40:38
Good morning again to everyone!

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 13:41:23
I smell a Landslide....just sayin.



Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:42:39
Oh, that's right!!!



"Senator Franken met with President Obama today....."



I'll watch the O'Reilly Factor that night just so I can watch Bill's head explode with my own eyes...





Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 13:43:46
Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 13:48:11
Woo Hoo! Pat Benetar!!



I think Obama should use that at his rallys!!

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 13:49:32
Dude...Barack is going to wipe the floor with McCain. Christ. It's June!



Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 13:50:46
Morning :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:51:27
Nah, I got the song for Obama....



Prince and the NPG, "New Power Generation"





"We are the new power generation, we want to change the world

The only thing that's in our way is you

Your old fashioned music, your old ideas

we're sick and tired of you telling us what to do"



Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 13:52:07
I didn't eat Top Ramon - don't like soup.

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 13:52:08
jennifer beals :drool:

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 13:52:54
Momma and the [first-generation] microwave!



http://davidszondy.com/future/Living/microwaveold.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 13:57:03
like when mom would serve leftover stuffed peppers! :puke:

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:00:30
This is 2008, right?!?!?!



Bush to Iran: 'All options' are open over nukes

President urges diplomacy over uranium enrichment during European visit



"Both the chancellor and my first choice of course is to solve this diplomatically," Bush told a joint news conference with Merkel.



But he added: "All options are on the table," a reference to the threat of military action to stop Iran's nuclear program, which the West fears is aimed at making atomic bombs. "The message to the Iranian government is very clear," Bush said.







Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 14:02:56
Quote by TriSec:

Would the Republicans do well to remember the (likely apocryphal) words of Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto on the morning of 7 December 1941?



"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve..."



I was a babe of 2 years in that seminal year 1968.....but maybe something is happening here.


What it is ain't exactly clear...

Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 14:04:48
Quote by wickedpam:

I didn't eat Top Ramon - don't like soup.


Soup shmoup.. drain most of the water off & make a sauce with the little bit that's left!

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 14:07:08
Random is a lil tired from DRII

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:09:29
:rofl: Nice one Shane-O!!!

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:10:16
Good morning everyone.



I feel like a bear that was stirred from its slumber.

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:10:52
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by TriSec:

Would the Republicans do well to remember the (likely apocryphal) words of Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto on the morning of 7 December 1941?



"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve..."



I was a babe of 2 years in that seminal year 1968.....but maybe something is happening here.


What it is ain't exactly clear...


There's a man with a gun over there....



Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:10:52
Quote by Raine:

This is 2008, right?!?!?!



Bush to Iran: 'All options' are open over nukes

President urges diplomacy over uranium enrichment during European visit



"Both the chancellor and my first choice of course is to solve this diplomatically," Bush told a joint news conference with Merkel.



But he added: "All options are on the table," a reference to the threat of military action to stop Iran's nuclear program, which the West fears is aimed at making atomic bombs. "The message to the Iranian government is very clear," Bush said.







I have the strangest feeling of Deja Vu.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 14:12:10
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Nice one Shane-O!!!




Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:12:15
Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:12:19
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by TriSec:

Would the Republicans do well to remember the (likely apocryphal) words of Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto on the morning of 7 December 1941?



"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve..."



I was a babe of 2 years in that seminal year 1968.....but maybe something is happening here.


What it is ain't exactly clear...


There's a man with a gun over there....



Telling me I've got to beware.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 14:12:53
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by wickedpam:

I didn't eat Top Ramon - don't like soup.


Soup shmoup.. drain most of the water off & make a sauce with the little bit that's left!




Not a fan of sauces either - I'm a very picky eater.



Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 14:17:29
*snort*



Ah, I see Scoop and WP would have trouble in my kitchen...



"What's This????"



"There's nothing in it you don't like; just eat it!!"



"I like things better when they have names...."







Oh, wait...that's a normal dinnertime conversation with Mrs. TriSec. My apologies..



Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 14:21:15
Quote by TriSec:

*snort*



Ah, I see Scoop and WP would have trouble in my kitchen...



"What's This????"



"There's nothing in it you don't like; just eat it!!"



"I like things better when they have names...."







Oh, wait...that's a normal dinnertime conversation with Mrs. TriSec. My apologies..





Oh trust me I've gotten way better then I used to be thanks to my job. Sometimes we have dinner meeting and I have to just eat what's in front of me with out making a face I've come to really like somethings I used to refuse to eat.



Although I still will NOT eat mayo or shrooms (damn fugus)



Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 14:23:44
Quote by wickedpam:





Not a fan of sauces either - I'm a very picky eater.



I like things that are saucy!







including food. :P

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:25:09
Quote by TriSec:

*snort*



Ah, I see Scoop and WP would have trouble in my kitchen...



"What's This????"



"There's nothing in it you don't like; just eat it!!"



"I like things better when they have names...."







Oh, wait...that's a normal dinnertime conversation with Mrs. TriSec. My apologies..



I hope her cooking's not as bad as Stephs.

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:30:31
Quote by BobR:

Quote by wickedpam:





Not a fan of sauces either - I'm a very picky eater.



I like things that are saucy!







including food. :P




Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 14:32:40
What in the hell....



I swear this is a result of fallout from Chernobyl or some shit. Between the reborn Hindu gods in India and this I'm just at a loss for any other explanation.

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 14:34:11
O.o I...This...Is a first...



Random is afraid.

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 14:38:30
do terrorists have knuckle bumps? secrat handshakes?

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:40:34
:thud: Scoop that was singularly one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen.

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:41:00
Quote by starling310:

do terrorists have knuckle bumps? secrat handshakes?


Just ask E.D. Hill. Apparently she's the expert...



...at pulling things out of her ass.

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:41:37
Larry Johnson (the spy guy) was one of those people saying they were going to put out the video that they are talking about.





Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 14:41:45
Quote by Scoopster:

What in the hell....



I swear this is a result of fallout from Chernobyl or some shit. Between the reborn Hindu gods in India and this I'm just at a loss for any other explanation.


First: yes, disturbing.



Second: Does it seem weird to have ANYTHING related to a baby described as a "manhood". :huh:

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 14:45:52
Random was called a right wing tool...kinda...

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 14:46:38
Quote by Raine:

Larry Johnson (the spy guy) was one of those people saying they were going to put out the video that they are talking about.





I guess they haven't been able to alter it yet. But it would only benefit McCain now that Hillary is out of the race.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 14:53:09
Fox Sting is SOO FUN!





Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 14:53:26
So regarding a troop pullout...



"No, but that's not too important. What's important is the casualties in Iraq."


Interesting, 6 month's after 9/11 *ush said this....



"I am Truly not that concerned with Him"






Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 15:00:58
Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 15:11:44
Laura Bush bringing on the Klassy with a K!



http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/AirCaravan_450x350.jpg


Laura Bush has been visiting The Troops in Afghanistan, and she’s doing it in typical trailer trash princess style. She flew on a military troop carrier, but she sure as hell wouldn’t sit in the “regular chairs.” So they dragged a luxury trailer on board that features the juxtaposing combo of cheap wood paneling and first-class seating.









The original NON snarky article.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 15:12:54


Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 15:13:32
:dance: :dance:

Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 15:13:52
I have to have this too!

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 15:14:14
Aaaaaaaaaaaighhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!



: jams pencil in eardrum :





Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 15:16:40
:lol: Waterloo :prince:

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 15:17:58
Hey...I'm curious, what does Big oil have to do with Surgeory?



I'm again, actually serious.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 15:18:27
Quote by Raine:

:lol: Waterloo :prince:




Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 15:19:51
Quote by Raine:

:lol: Waterloo :prince:


So the penis dances like an awkward white guy.

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 15:22:19
Hey wait a second, if I'm getting a "pajama-gram" for Father's Day, I want the silky ones in the damn heart-shaped box!





Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/11/2008 15:23:37
Good morning everyone!

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 15:25:08
Shane-O loves the Peas....

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 15:25:43
Hey Izzy!

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 15:26:29
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

:lol: Waterloo :prince:


I think we can safely conclude that we have 2 very distinct campa on les bloggie. One that when listeing to ABBA, says and one that



Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 15:26:29
Does it tell me who gets the car?

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 15:26:53
BobR and Raine, sent you PM's.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/11/2008 15:29:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

:lol: Waterloo :prince:


I think we can safely conclude that we have 2 very distinct campa on les bloggie. One that when listeing to ABBA, says and one that

Diversity ROCKS!



Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 15:37:01
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

:lol: Waterloo :prince:


I think we can safely conclude that we have 2 very distinct campa on les bloggie. One that when listeing to ABBA, says and one that





Ya made me laugh today, m'lady. I needed that.





Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 15:45:43
Aaaaarghhghghghghg why am I so sleepy?!

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 15:53:04
Liv, responded.

Comment by clintster on 06/11/2008 15:55:16
Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 15:55:24
Hmm...all the news about flooding going on right now.



Southern-tier bloggers?



How's the drought situation in a ) Georgia and b ) Palm Beach County, as both were desperately dry last year....





Comment by wickedpam on 06/11/2008 15:57:11
Retirement? What's that?

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 16:02:05
Quote by wickedpam:

Retirement? What's that?


At this rate, I feel like unless I hit the Mega Millions jackpot I will be working until I'm 80.

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 16:02:31
President PUTIN of GERMANY?





Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 16:11:16
My god, McCain is senile.

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 16:21:04
From HuffPo:

McCain Admits He Doesn't Know How to Use a Computer

This video appears to be from at least six weeks ago, but no one has really commented on it. Do we want a commander-in-chief who can't use a computer without assistance?



(video at the link.)

====================



This is serious to me. We live in an electronic age. If he can't use a computer, then we really are doomed.

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 16:25:37
Abu Dabai is going to buy the Chrysler Building?!?!?

Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 16:29:30
Quote by TriSec:

Hmm...all the news about flooding going on right now.



Southern-tier bloggers?



How's the drought situation in a ) Georgia and b ) Palm Beach County, as both were desperately dry last year....





We've had a fairly rainy spring which has helped refill the resevoir about halfway. Of course, now everyone wants to start wasting water again. :rolleyes2:

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 16:32:15
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 16:51:01






Livin, have you learned nothing? How many times have I ranted about plural vs possessive? CEOs not CEO's!

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/11/2008 16:52:12
:thud:



President Putin???



I thought he stepped down in Germany and the new German prez is Ahmandinejad.



:rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 16:59:33
Quote by velveeta jones:

:thud:



President Putin???



I thought he stepped down in Germany and the new German prez is Ahmandinejad.



:rofl:


:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 17:10:03
So the government should not fund art that blasphemes the CATHOLIC church? Buddy step off when it comes to censoring art.







Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 17:24:07
Quote by Raine:

So the government should not fund art that blasphemes the CATHOLIC church? Buddy step off when it comes to censoring art.











WTF? No the government should fund art that blasphemes all religion. I'm just sayin. :shrug:





In something totally unrelated, ohhh M. Night Shamalamadingdong's new movie rated R. Ohhhboywow!

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 17:26:42
Quote by Raine:

From HuffPo:

McCain Admits He Doesn't Know How to Use a Computer

This video appears to be from at least six weeks ago, but no one has really commented on it. Do we want a commander-in-chief who can't use a computer without assistance?



(video at the link.)

====================



This is serious to me. We live in an electronic age. If he can't use a computer, then we really are doomed.




Ha...that explains it.



Remember a few days ago, McCain said he was vetting his VP's through Google?

He was trying to make himself look hip and with it on the technology front.

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/11/2008 17:50:15
Without gov't funding, there would be little to almost NO art anywhere in this country. Even the ultra rich private collectors tend to horde some art pieces and lock them away, using them as their own private heirlooms.



The Gov't should not be in the business of worrying about what offends religion, when it comes to art.



Otherwise we'd be over-run with really *bad* art, you know, like Thomas Kinkade and Romero Britto!



:shudder: UG.

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 17:54:28
iPod question:

Anyone else run into a situation where you are "missing" artists when you search by ARTIST but, they are still in your iPod under ALBUM?

It's extremely annoying.

I noticed it first with Maria Callas. . . . if I look under Artist, she's not there. But, under Album, she is.

Same with Abba ( gee, wonder why I was looking for that ) A-Ha, AC-DC, then right to Adam Ant. No Abba. Yet, I am listening to their album 'GOLD' right now.



Anybody?

Anybody?



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 18:03:10
Quote by starling310:

iPod question:

Anyone else run into a situation where you are "missing" artists when you search by ARTIST but, they are still in your iPod under ALBUM?

It's extremely annoying.

I noticed it first with Maria Callas. . . . if I look under Artist, she's not there. But, under Album, she is.

Same with Abba ( gee, wonder why I was looking for that ) A-Ha, AC-DC, then right to Adam Ant. No Abba. Yet, I am listening to their album 'GOLD' right now.



Anybody?

Anybody?







Ummm Joe Biden

Comment by Scoopster on 06/11/2008 18:05:06
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

iPod question:

Anyone else run into a situation where you are "missing" artists when you search by ARTIST but, they are still in your iPod under ALBUM?

It's extremely annoying.

I noticed it first with Maria Callas. . . . if I look under Artist, she's not there. But, under Album, she is.

Same with Abba ( gee, wonder why I was looking for that ) A-Ha, AC-DC, then right to Adam Ant. No Abba. Yet, I am listening to their album 'GOLD' right now.



Anybody?

Anybody?







Ummm Joe Biden


:rofl:

Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 18:07:59
Say, did somebody say bad art?





Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 18:12:44
I did mean yes, by saying Joe Biden, Star.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 18:15:48
Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 18:19:54
What fun. I had a power outage.

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 18:20:17
So, you've had that problem too Mondo?



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 18:32:59
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 18:57:17
Quote by starling310:

So, you've had that problem too Mondo?







Indeed! One of those wonderful little iPod quirks.

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 19:07:49
Quote by velveeta jones:

Without gov't funding, there would be little to almost NO art anywhere in this country. Even the ultra rich private collectors tend to horde some art pieces and lock them away, using them as their own private heirlooms.



The Gov't should not be in the business of worrying about what offends religion, when it comes to art.



Otherwise we'd be over-run with really *bad* art, you know, like Thomas Kinkade and Romero Britto!



:shudder: UG.






Back from the bark park. Kizzy's first trip there. we got her a new leash and dog bowls too. Fancy! The heat wiped me out.



I need some Iced coffee... should perk me up a little bit. Kizzy has now taken her spot in the chair, and is promplty preparing for an afternoon nap.



Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 19:18:39
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Without gov't funding, there would be little to almost NO art anywhere in this country. Even the ultra rich private collectors tend to horde some art pieces and lock them away, using them as their own private heirlooms.



The Gov't should not be in the business of worrying about what offends religion, when it comes to art.



Otherwise we'd be over-run with really *bad* art, you know, like Thomas Kinkade and Romero Britto!



:shudder: UG.






Back from the bark park. Kizzy's first trip there. we got her a new leash and dog bowls too. Fancy! The heat wiped me out.



I need some Iced coffee... should perk me up a little bit. Kizzy has now taken her spot in the chair, and is promplty preparing for an afternoon nap.







Aww...Kizzy...you get new stuff? yes you did. yes you DID! who's a good dog?

: scruff scruff scruff :



That reminds me...when I was on vacation, redoing my kitchen I had to make several trips to my local, friendly Hardware store. And, every time I pulled in I would say "SHAG BARK" vis a vis "bark park" because that is the name of the store.

SHAG BARK HARDWARE.



SHAG BARK!



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 19:23:14
Quote by velveeta jones:

Without gov't funding, there would be little to almost NO art anywhere in this country. Even the ultra rich private collectors tend to horde some art pieces and lock them away, using them as their own private heirlooms.



The Gov't should not be in the business of worrying about what offends religion, when it comes to art.



Otherwise we'd be over-run with really *bad* art, you know, like Thomas Kinkade and Romero Britto!



:shudder: UG.




We aren't overrun by bad "art"? Coulda fooled me VJ. Try going into a Wal-mart and looking at stuff in the home furnishing section. : shudder: :puke:

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 19:25:04
Random feels ignored...

Comment by starling310 on 06/11/2008 19:30:30
Mondo, it looks like, according to Apple discussion groups, that it can happen if songs are marked as "Part of a Compilation." Seems silly to me. They should show up under Artist, regardless. Oh well.



Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 19:35:44
Obama Crashes 8th grade Graduation!



:clap: And they aren't old enough to vote! What an amazing moment for them!!

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 19:43:06
Dennis Kucinich is on Randi right now.

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 19:46:55
So the Dennis Kucinich site has been getting hacked over the last few days.

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 19:48:59
Quote by Random:

Random feels ignored...


:hug:

Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/11/2008 19:49:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Without gov't funding, there would be little to almost NO art anywhere in this country. Even the ultra rich private collectors tend to horde some art pieces and lock them away, using them as their own private heirlooms.



The Gov't should not be in the business of worrying about what offends religion, when it comes to art.



Otherwise we'd be over-run with really *bad* art, you know, like Thomas Kinkade and Romero Britto!



:shudder: UG.






Back from the bark park. Kizzy's first trip there. we got her a new leash and dog bowls too. Fancy! The heat wiped me out.



I need some Iced coffee... should perk me up a little bit. Kizzy has now taken her spot in the chair, and is promplty preparing for an afternoon nap.





Kizzy living the dog days of summer. Nice.

Comment by livingonli on 06/11/2008 20:06:24
My weekend's over. Back to the salt mine.

Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 20:07:14
Quote by Random:





Ha...that explains it.



Remember a few days ago, McCain said he was vetting his VP's through Google?

He was trying to make himself look hip and with it on the technology front.


Hmmm.... since he can't use a computer, that means



HE LIED



Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 20:10:15
Quote by starling310:

iPod question:

Anyone else run into a situation where you are "missing" artists when you search by ARTIST but, they are still in your iPod under ALBUM?

It's extremely annoying.

I noticed it first with Maria Callas. . . . if I look under Artist, she's not there. But, under Album, she is.

Same with Abba ( gee, wonder why I was looking for that ) A-Ha, AC-DC, then right to Adam Ant. No Abba. Yet, I am listening to their album 'GOLD' right now.



Anybody?

Anybody?



Could it be a weird case-sensitivity thing? Did you go through all of the "A"s to make sure that the iPod isn't sorting them strangely?





Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 20:13:33
Quote by BobR:



Could it be a weird case-sensitivity thing? Did you go through all of the "A"s to make sure that the iPod isn't sorting them strangely?





After catching up on the rest of the blog,.... never mind ::emily litella::

Comment by Raine on 06/11/2008 20:16:07


Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 20:23:31
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:





Ha...that explains it.



Remember a few days ago, McCain said he was vetting his VP's through Google?

He was trying to make himself look hip and with it on the technology front.


Hmmm.... since he can't use a computer, that means



HE LIED



To be fair, he said that a few months ago.

he could be pandering, and trying to sound younger, or "hip".

I'm going with that, cause really..Google? It's like if he had said Wikipedia. Both are not real answers.



Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 20:43:13
sending an email from MS Outlook, and spellcheck popped up with this rather unfortunate screen:



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/political/obamaosama.jpg


Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 20:44:37
Quote by Random:



To be fair, he said that a few months ago.

he could be pandering, and trying to sound younger, or "hip".

I'm going with that, cause really..Google? It's like if he had said Wikipedia. Both are not real answers.



Fair?



Why would I want to be fair?



Comment by TriSec on 06/11/2008 20:45:45
TriSec signing off and heading for the barn!



I've got my annual Alumni/Scholarship dinner tonight in my ancestral homeland (Saugus) for Boy Scout Troop 61, so I'll see everyone in the morning! :peace:

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 21:34:51
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:



To be fair, he said that a few months ago.

he could be pandering, and trying to sound younger, or "hip".

I'm going with that, cause really..Google? It's like if he had said Wikipedia. Both are not real answers.



Fair?



Why would I want to be fair?



Because it's the right thing to do.

Besides that, he probably hasn't since learned to use a computer. He was just pandering to people, trying to look like he knows what he's doing by saying "google"

Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 22:33:49
Quote by Random:



Because it's the right thing to do.

Besides that, he probably hasn't since learned to use a computer. He was just pandering to people, trying to look like he knows what he's doing by saying "google"


which means he's lying.

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 22:41:50
Quote by BobR:

which means he's lying.


If what i said is true, he is.

But i don't know what is true, just what i infer.









Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 23:08:04
because i'm too lazy to take the pic and save it...Obama lights up

Comment by BobR on 06/11/2008 23:22:14
Quote by Random:

because i'm too lazy to take the pic and save it...Obama lights up


I can't believe she ran that old photo of him smoking.

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 23:31:21
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Random:

because i'm too lazy to take the pic and save it...Obama lights up


I can't believe she ran that old photo of him smoking.


To point out that i don't care if he smokes, i just think it looks cool

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 23:41:29
Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 23:49:34
Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/11/2008 23:56:48
Keerist only one of the contestants got the right answer in final Jeopardy. Who doesn't know that the grossly over rated James Dean only made three movies. :eyeroll:

Comment by Random on 06/11/2008 23:58:56
Quote by Mondobubba:

Keerist only one of the contestants got the right answer in final Jeopardy. Who doesn't know that the grossly over rated James Dean only made three movies. :eyeroll:


Mondo...You care way too much.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 00:03:15
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?




Johnny Quest. Read and learn young Padawan.

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 00:05:37
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?




Johnny Quest. Read and learn young Padawan.


ooh, lil dog, now i know what you're talking about. My mind went straigh to "Smokey and the-".

Next time give a category.



Edit: I didn't click your link. I know who Johnny Quest is. It doesn't help though that my most recent memories come from Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law.

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 00:06:35
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?




Johnny Quest. Read and learn young Padawan.


Well, he is young enough to not even have seen the re-runs unless he watches them buried during the wee hours of the morning on Boomerang.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 00:07:19
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Keerist only one of the contestants got the right answer in final Jeopardy. Who doesn't know that the grossly over rated James Dean only made three movies. :eyeroll:


Mondo...You care way too much.




Mondo knows he could kick ass and take names if he would actually take the test to get on the show.

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 00:11:52
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?




Johnny Quest. Read and learn young Padawan.


Well, he is young enough to not even have seen the re-runs unless he watches them buried during the wee hours of the morning on Boomerang.


Apparently you didn't know they made a remake/continuation of Johnny Quest in the mid to late nineties taking place after one of the movies, which included Race's Daughter.



That beside the point, i don't think i've seen an old/classic Johnny Quest



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 00:20:10
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?




Mondo,

'Scuse me, but I always thought that Bandit was the doggie-friend of Johnny Quest and Hadji... Just my 60s TeeVee memory... Ah..."Johnny Quest" I remember watching it on Friday nights right before "The Addams Family." Guess I'm really, really old... (Right after "The Flintstones," I believe).

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:







Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 00:23:13
It's times like these where Random feels like a total idiot.

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 00:28:28
Although there were the Harvey Birdman episodes that had Dr. Quest and Race fighting over custody and then trying to get married. Gee, what were they trying to hint?

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 00:31:47
Quote by livingonli:

Although there were the Harvey Birdman episodes that had Dr. Quest and Race fighting over custody and then trying to get married. Gee, what were they trying to hint?


I think Random already pointed our Harvey Birdman

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 00:31:57
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Oh c'mon people you don't know who owned Bandit? : feels really let down by the contestants on Jeopardy:


...I have no idea what you're going on about...What the hell is Bandit?




Mondo,

'Scuse me, but I always thought that Bandit was the doggie-friend of Johnny Quest and Hadji... Just my 60s TeeVee memory... Ah..."Johnny Quest" I remember watching it on Friday nights right before "The Addams Family." Guess I'm really, really old... (Right after "The Flintstones," I believe).

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:











Yes he is.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 00:36:35
Christ Gretchen Carlson is retarded. Hardcore dictionaries? :thud:

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 00:40:54
Quote by Mondobubba:

Christ Gretchen Carlson is retarded. Hardcore dictionaries? :thud:


Fixed Noise doesn't want 'em smart. They just want 'em obedient. That can be the only explanation for E.D. Hill being there so many years.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 00:41:39
Quote by Random:

It's times like these where Random feels like a total idiot.


Not idiot, just veddy veddy young - you, kid, you :D

Cheers, Random,

mfaye



Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 00:43:45
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Random:

It's times like these where Random feels like a total idiot.


Not idiot, just veddy veddy young - you, kid, you :D

Cheers, Random,

mfaye



But I know what Bandit is. I know what Johnny Quest is.

I've said that, several times.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 00:47:39
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Christ Gretchen Carlson is retarded. Hardcore dictionaries? :thud:


Fixed Noise doesn't want 'em smart. They just want 'em obedient. That can be the only explanation for E.D. Hill being there so many years.




Mondo & Liv,

I hear Gretchen has her dictionaries on her shelf right next to her Hardcore Porn... ha ha :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 00:49:48
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Christ Gretchen Carlson is retarded. Hardcore dictionaries? :thud:


Fixed Noise doesn't want 'em smart. They just want 'em obedient. That can be the only explanation for E.D. Hill being there so many years.




Mondo & Liv,

I hear Gretchen has her dictionaries on her shelf right next to her Hardcore Porn... ha ha :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye


She uses the dictionary to prop her knees up when she's under the desk.



:skates to penalty box:

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 00:56:35
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Christ Gretchen Carlson is retarded. Hardcore dictionaries? :thud:


Fixed Noise doesn't want 'em smart. They just want 'em obedient. That can be the only explanation for E.D. Hill being there so many years.




Mondo & Liv,

I hear Gretchen has her dictionaries on her shelf right next to her Hardcore Porn... ha ha :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye


She uses the dictionary to prop her knees up when she's under the desk.



:skates to penalty box:




Liv,

I'll join you in the penalty box - better start shaking the Raintinis :)

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 01:01:09




Just watched Who Killed the Electric Car?



Woh.



Run. Don't Walk to your nearest video store and rent this movie!!!



Better yet, buy copy from

Plug in America.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 01:11:55
Quote by starling310:





Just watched Who Killed the Electric Car?



Woh.



Run. Don't Walk to your nearest video store and rent this movie!!!



Better yet, buy copy from

Plug in America.






Can't too busy watching Das Mythbusters. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Kari Byron, rrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 01:15:24
.....Random is going to sulk now.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 01:34:14
I've been within 30 miles of Kari Byron. They went to the very smelly gator farm in St Augustine. :swoon:

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 01:38:46
Quote by starling310:





Just watched Who Killed the Electric Car?



Woh.



Run. Don't Walk to your nearest video store and rent this movie!!!



Better yet, buy copy from

Plug in America.




Starling,

I saw that film about a year ago - at the groovy downtown renovated theater (Circle Cinema) and was completely discouraged when I saw the folks camped outside the fence watching their precious cars being carted away to be destroyed and I thought "the horrible waste of it all," not just the product but the knowledge of such an innovative way to get from Point A to Point B. Damn Corporate America :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 02:22:23
Quote by m-hadley:





Starling,

I saw that film about a year ago - at the groovy downtown renovated theater (Circle Cinema) and was completely discouraged when I saw the folks camped outside the fence watching their precious cars being carted away to be destroyed and I thought "the horrible waste of it all," not just the product but the knowledge of such an innovative way to get from Point A to Point B. Damn Corporate America :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye


I saw it about a year ago too. It REALLY pissed me off.



And now Toyota is planning on producing plug-in hybrids, which means no using any gas for those that don't drive more than about 40 miles a day.



Opportunity and market position lost for GM.



assholes.

Comment by MMB on 06/12/2008 02:23:23
Oh how wishful thinking gets us through our lives. Fantasy is truly a great replacment for the lack of having what we want. This is from my shrink i tend to agree with him. Chad Kroeger lead vocals and writer for his band Nickelback he is the perfect fantasy to get a girl through bad times.

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 02:25:12
Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 02:27:07
Quote by MMB:

Oh how wishful thinking gets us through our lives. Fantasy is truly a great replacment for the lack of having what we want. This is from my shrink i tend to agree with him. Chad Kroeger lead vocals and writer for his band Nickelback he is the perfect fantasy to get a girl through bad times.


I'm watching a show about ice cream on the travel channel and having fantasies of an entirely different sort. :drool:



Damn middle-aged gut!

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 02:33:33
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Christ Gretchen Carlson is retarded. Hardcore dictionaries? :thud:


Fixed Noise doesn't want 'em smart. They just want 'em obedient. That can be the only explanation for E.D. Hill being there so many years.




Mondo & Liv,

I hear Gretchen has her dictionaries on her shelf right next to her Hardcore Porn... ha ha :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye
If I were to use Gretchen's spelling issues. we should be spelling it Grechn... Spelling is hard.



Comment by MMB on 06/12/2008 02:35:25
Oh come on BobR i saw the pix from the Washington trip you don't look a day over 29!!!! We all know how lucky Raine is to have a hottie like you!! Well your lucky to have Raine to!! What ever ones fantasies may be it's all good!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 03:38:44
NOT SATIRE:





http://images.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/11/fox_obama/story.jpg




Faux news Refers to Michelle Obama as *Obama baby Mama*



For all the people screaming sexism, now is your chance to speak up... geraldine ferrarro? do you have anythng to say about this one? it is you network, you know.

Comment by clintster on 06/12/2008 12:20:41
Quote by Raine:

NOT SATIRE:





http://images.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/11/fox_obama/story.jpg




Faux news Refers to Michelle Obama as *Obama baby Mama*



For all the people screaming sexism, now is your chance to speak up... geraldine ferrarro? do you have anythng to say about this one? it is you network, you know.




I was just reading about this on Sadly No. One of the commenters remarked that Fox isn't even trying to disguise their bigotry anymore. I have to agree here; it's only a matter of time before O'Reilly or Hannity show off a photoshopped picture of Barack in some stereotypical pose.