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The final accounting
Author: TriSec    Date: 08/17/2021 11:25:56

This actually happened yesterday.


Three young men have reportedly fallen mid-air from a plane leaving Kabul after allegedly losing grip of the exterior of the aircraft, alarming footage appears to show.

In a video uploaded by the Afghan Asvaka News agency and seemingly taken from the ground, two unidentifiable objects can be seen falling from the body of a plane as it flies overhead.

"The video shows a flight from Kabul airport where two people are thrown from a plane into the people's homes," the agency said alongside the 11-second clip which has since garnered more than one million views.

The Afghan men were hanging to the tires of a C-17 U.S. military aircraft, the publication reported.



There are multiple videos at the link; click at your own discretion.

We can sit here and debate all the foibles and failures of the last twenty years; historians, pundits, and candidates are likely to do so for decades to come.

My conclusion on this was summed up in a series of tweets over the last few days. In general, it appears that despite at least ten years of nation-building (counting from when we "won" the war by killing Osama bin Laden), Afghans as a whole don't want what we built.

At least the South Vietnamese put up a credible fight as their nation collapsed.
Afghanistan slipped under the waves with nary a ripple.

What is that last cost to America? The BBC has put together a significant analysis, complete with charts and graphs. In the end, their conclusion is actually inconclusive - parts of what we spent have not been accounted for.


According to the US Department of Defense, the total military expenditure in Afghanistan (from October 2001 until September 2019) had reached $778bn.

In addition, the US state department - along with the US Agency for International Development (USAID) and other government agencies - spent $44bn on reconstruction projects.

That brings the total cost - based on official data - to $822bn between 2001 and 2019, but it doesn't include any spending in Pakistan, which the US uses as a base for Afghan-related operations.

According to a Brown University study in 2019, which has looked at war spending in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, the US had spent around $978bn (their estimate also includes money allocated for the 2020 fiscal year).

The study notes that it is difficult to assess the overall cost because accounting methods vary between government departments, and they also change over time, leading to different overall estimates.


In the end, the greatest cost to the United States and our Allies is always the cost in blood. While not nearly as costly as other wars we've fought, the families of the dead will always remain devastated by these losses.

Afghanistan

Country Total

Albania 1
Australia 41
Belgium 1
Canada 158
Croatian 1
Czech Republic 14
Denmark 43
Estonia 9
Finland 2
France 86
Georgia 29
Germany 54
Hungary 7
Italy 48
Jordan 2
Latvia 3
Lithuania 1
NATO 18
Netherlands 25
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Poland 40
Portugal 2
Romania 25
Slovakia 3
South Korea 1
Spain 34
Sweden 5
Turkey 14
United Kingdom 455
United States 2452
Unknown 1

Total 3596








 
 

12 comments (Latest Comment: 08/17/2021 16:14:26 by Raine)
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Comment by TriSec on 08/17/2021 11:46:36
An immediate bonus click from the Boston Globe. More things to consider.


Paying for a war on credit, not in cash:
Amount that President Truman temporarily raised top tax rates to pay for Korean War: 92 percent.

Amount that President Johnson temporarily raised top tax rates to pay for Vietnam War: 77 percent.

Amount that President George W. Bush cut tax rates for the wealthiest, rather than raise them, at outset of Afghanistan and Iraq wars: At least 8 percent.

Estimated amount of direct Afghanistan and Iraq war costs that the United States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion.

Estimated interest costs by 2050: Up to $6.5 trillion.

The wars end. The costs don’t:
Amount Bilmes estimates the United States has committed to pay in health care, disability, burial and other costs for roughly 4 million Afghanistan and Iraq veterans: more than $2 trillion.

Period those costs will peak: after 2048.


Putting that into some real-world terms for us here....

Javi was one month old on the morning of September 11. This is all he has known for his entire life to date. He'll be 50 by the time this gets paid off. Not even halfway there yet.

As for me - in the year 2050, I'll be looking at my 84th birthday. (Plausible - Papa Trisec is 87). I was a month into my 35th year when those planes went in.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/17/2021 13:19:08
Morning

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 13:48:21
Good Morning.

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 13:49:50
Biden's speech was absolutely spot on yesterday.

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 14:37:32
Brutal take on us leaving Afghanistan.
I remember going through the phones of the people we detained and finding clip after clip of Bollywood musicals, women singing in fields of flowers

Rarely did I find anything incriminating
I remember finding propaganda footage cut together from the Soviet invasion and our own Operation Enduring Whatever

And laughing about how stupid the Afghans were to not know we aren't the Russians

And then eventually realizing I was the stupid one
I remember how every year the US would have to decide how to deal with the opium fields

You could let them alone, and then the Taliban would shake the farmers down and use the money to buy weapons

Or you could carpet bomb the fields and then the farmers would join the Taliban
Or you could give the farmers fertilizer as an incentive to grow wheat instead of opium poppy, and the farmers would sell the fertilizer to the Taliban, who used it to make explosives for IEDs that could destroy a million dollar MRAP and maim everyone inside
more at the link.

Comment by livingonli on 08/17/2021 15:01:13
Good morning. It's all a cluster fuck and to hell with the neo-cons who think we should have kept fighting. Although it looks like the deal TFG made is why things went to shit like they did.

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 15:03:27
Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 15:03:57
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning. It's all a cluster fuck and to hell with the neo-cons who think we should have kept fighting. Although it looks like the deal TFG made is why things went to shit like they did.
it was a trap. that MFER should go to the hague.


Comment by Scoopster on 08/17/2021 15:35:59
Mornin' all...

Another doctors visit today. I'll be coming up on my 6-month radiation inspection next month, at which point we'll decide on the idea of a second stronger dose.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/17/2021 15:41:40
(btw, don't tell you-know-who but I'm still planning to bake 'em a peanut butter chocolate cheesecake for their birthday)

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 15:48:45
Quote by Scoopster:
(btw, don't tell you-know-who but I'm still planning to bake 'em a peanut butter chocolate cheesecake for their birthday)

Yummers!

Comment by Raine on 08/17/2021 16:14:26
Another c-17 just flew over the house.

Been seeing a lot more flying into JBAndrews.