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The Torture Never Stops
Author: BobR    Date: 02/13/2009 13:37:14

As a society, we have certain boundaries beyond which we do not cross. For most of us, we do not cross them because of empathy, our understanding of human dignity, and the moral codes we have learned or created. A small minority cannot be trusted to stay within those boundaries, so we create laws and a means to enforce them. But what happens when those we've entrusted with the power to enforce the laws step beyond the powers we've granted and become as bad as (or worse than) those whose transgressions demand prosecution? Our outrage is strong and justified, and they are made to pay for their crimes. What happens when this occurs - not at a local or state level - but at an international level?

This is a question that is becoming increasingly clear demands an answer. With a new president in office and FOIA information requests being granted once again, the documentation is startling, horrifying, and infuriating.

At the head of the list is documented evidence that two men were tortured to death just two days after Rumsfeld okayed the abusive treatment:
Newly declassified Defense Department documents describe a pattern of “abusive” behavior by U.S. military interrogators that appears to have caused the deaths of several suspected terrorists imprisoned at a detention center in Afghanistan in December 2002, just two days after former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld authorized the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques against prisoners in that country.

Just let that thought roll around on your tongue for a minute and see if you can keep from spitting it out in disgust - the U.S. tortured at least two men to death.

Another report says that with all the focus on waterboarding, the levels to which we've sunk are much lower, including slicing genitals with a scalpel:
The 25 lines edited out of the court papers contained details of how Mr Mohamed’s genitals were sliced with a scalpel and other torture methods so extreme that waterboarding, the controversial technique of simulated drowning, “is very far down the list of things they did,” the official said.

Sexual deviancy seems to be a central component in the arsenal of brutality against prisoners, if the anecdotal evidence is any indication. Another prisoner reports:
His lawyer, Ejaz Naqvi, has filed legal papers with Mumbai magistrate's court, claiming the "white woman" removed all his clothes and showed him pornographic films.

In the papers, he claims that three foreigners, including the woman, sexually abused him, causing him "severe itching and wounds" on his body, including his genitals.

Mr Ansari, a devout Muslim, claims this amounts to torture because it is against his religion, The Sun newspaper has reported.

A court in the Indian city ordered medical checks on "wounds on his private parts and all over his body."

To help ensure that their medieval tactics did not see the light of day, the Pentagon used several tactics, including running secret prisons, hiding detainees identities from the Red Cross, and delaying the release of prisoners when the attention of the press might be harmful. This shows that the Pentagon was complicit and worked with the CIA. THAT generally means that a higher body (ie: the Bush Administration) coordinated that cross-department cooperation.

So that brings us back to the original question: what to do? A recent poll shows that 2/3 of Americans want the abuses of the Bush Administration investigated. Despite the flow of information, however, the darkest secrets are still being held back. Even Obama is getting redacted documents. Meanwhile, KKKarl Rove is ignoring Congressional subpoenas while commentating on FOX News and torture policy architect John Yoo is teaching at Berkeley University.

This may take an international effort. The World Organization Against Torture (OMCT) based in Switzerland may be involved in this. In a report on torture in 2007, they did not specifically mention the U.S., but it's pretty clear who they meant:
OMCT’s efforts are nonetheless more indispensable than ever, for while the 20th century brought absolute condemnation of torture, the early 21st century is witnessing a worrying phenomenon, revealed since 11 September 2001: namely the tendency in certain Western countries to consider certain forms of torture as legally acceptable. While the United Nations Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment or Punishment (hereafter the Convention against Torture) establishes the absolute prohibition of these practices, it describes them differently. Various governments therefore attempt to circumvent and to interpret this international definition in order to justify certain methods. This evolution is extremely worrying, since it entails a certain degree of relativism and the erosion of the prohibition of torture, thereby calling into doubt its absolute nature in the name of cultural differences. The 1993 Vienna Declaration, in reaffirming the universality of rights, reaffirmed that various cultures cannot relativise human rights. Yet today it is those who fought for this Declaration in Vienna who are currently relativising the absolute prohibition of torture, under the guise of the right to security or the anti-terrorist struggle.

OMCT is headed by Kofi Annan, the former head of the UN, so they do carry some weight. They can work with the UN to ensure that the criminals of the past Administration face up for their crimes against humanity at the Hague. Hopefully, the U.S. will cooperate and "rendition" these animals to The Netherlands for their trials.

One final bit of consolation: We've often speculated on where the Bush Administration criminals would run to avoid prosecution. Bush has a spot in Paraguay, and Halliburton moved to Dubai, so we always figured Cheney would fake his death and end up there. However, Dubai may not be a pleasant place to stay much longer; it is spiraling down in an economic free fall:
With Dubai’s economy in free fall, newspapers have reported that more than 3,000 cars sit abandoned in the parking lot at the Dubai Airport, left by fleeing, debt-ridden foreigners (who could in fact be imprisoned if they failed to pay their bills). Some are said to have maxed-out credit cards inside and notes of apology taped to the windshield.

Whither now, Dick?


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 13:52:54
Morning :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 02/13/2009 14:00:51
Morning all! :coffee:



We're starting off the morning on a mellow note today.. Pantera's cover of Black Sabbath's Planet Caravan is first up on the iTunes mosheen.





Comment by TriSec on 02/13/2009 14:02:07
Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all! :coffee:



We're starting off the morning on a mellow note today.. Pantera's cover of Black Sabbath's Planet Caravan is first up on the iTunes mosheen.









AHA! it was YOU! (see facebook)





Comment by Scoopster on 02/13/2009 14:07:44
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Quote by Scoopster:

Morning all! :coffee:



We're starting off the morning on a mellow note today.. Pantera's cover of Black Sabbath's Planet Caravan is first up on the iTunes mosheen.







AHA! it was YOU! (see facebook)


Okay.. I'm not seeing new-ish doin on here.



Edit: Okay LOL.. I'll admit that if I owned a car, I would be crankin' me some metal in the early mornin'!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 14:14:09
I was just going to say - did Gregg ask for a position with the administration? I bet he got pressure from his party to back out

Comment by Scoopster on 02/13/2009 14:20:36
Comment by TriSec on 02/13/2009 14:27:30
Comment by Random on 02/13/2009 14:28:45
Mornin all my lovely friends and families that i pretend not to know when company comes.

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 14:45:46
Good Morning!



Random... you pretend? Wow, you really ARE like family! :D

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/13/2009 14:47:11
Morning all.

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 14:48:39
Wow... this guy isn't even a GOOD winger!

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 14:49:37
Oh SURE... MSNBC is a Dem organization... With that Joe Scarborough at the helm.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 14:49:42


Comment by starling310 on 02/13/2009 14:49:42
YAY JIM!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 14:50:31
It's taxation without representation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 14:50:51


Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 14:51:15
I'd rather have A Rye than Pumpernickel...

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 14:51:56
A singuler Democrat is a Democrat the party is the DemocratIC party.

Comment by Random on 02/13/2009 14:53:50
Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 14:56:11
Quote by Random:

Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.
Are you working every morning now?



Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 14:57:20
Quote by Random:

Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.






YOu can add your own dialogue ;)

Comment by Random on 02/13/2009 14:57:28
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Quote by Random:

Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.
Are you working every morning now?



Oh, no. I work afternoons, so I have like the last half of yesterday's podcast, I listen to that, then get that days, and listen to that.

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 14:58:44
So you know what? you should listen along with the show Random!

Comment by Random on 02/13/2009 15:00:05
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Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.






YOu can add your own dialogue ;)


Well, ever since you got me creating characters yesterday, my mind's been on little else :p

Comment by Random on 02/13/2009 15:00:59
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So you know what? you should listen along with the show Random!


Well, if i did that, then I'd have nothing to listen to in the last half of my work day, and frankly...i need something to listen too.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 15:01:29
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.






YOu can add your own dialogue ;)


Well, ever since you got me creating characters yesterday, my mind's been on little else :p






lol Its addictive - btw I let Anime know you were going to send her something - she was tired yesterday so she wasn't online until late last night



Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:02:13


Joe the Plumber interview DeMint and Colburn regarding the Stimulus package.



No, really...
I mean, I cut cable when I realize that I’m not making enough money to cover my bills, I use coupons. Shouldn’t we expect the government to cut some programs?


Comment by TriSec on 02/13/2009 15:07:15
Random, I haven't listened all week; not feeling like I'm missing much. (there's other things out there to listen to, and the RW is a singular cacophony. I know what the wingers are talking about without having to listen most of the time.)



Now drinking some Official Blog Tea® and listening to the symphony. (Which has been nothing but pure joy to me since November 4.)





Comment by Random on 02/13/2009 15:08:38
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.






YOu can add your own dialogue ;)


Well, ever since you got me creating characters yesterday, my mind's been on little else :p






lol Its addictive - btw I let Anime know you were going to send her something - she was tired yesterday so she wasn't online until late last night



WEll, i did send you the character sheets for yours last night. And that's basically the characters i'll try and use for Anime as well, just with a few tweaks with backstory and personality.

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:10:19
I have no idea how to change my ringtome. None at all.

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/13/2009 15:10:53
:rofl: Chris with the innocence and stuff.

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:11:24
oh dear...



That is a bad song name for dear Rebekeh...

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/13/2009 15:11:57
Quote by Raine:

I have no idea how to change my ringtome. None at all.




It is kinda easy, just time consuming and potentially expensive.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 15:12:19
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Sounds interesting...hm...i've found that it's not that much fun for Random in this room now that he doesn't listen live anymore.






YOu can add your own dialogue ;)


Well, ever since you got me creating characters yesterday, my mind's been on little else :p






lol Its addictive - btw I let Anime know you were going to send her something - she was tired yesterday so she wasn't online until late last night



WEll, i did send you the character sheets for yours last night. And that's basically the characters i'll try and use for Anime as well, just with a few tweaks with backstory and personality.






That's cool - once I re-start mine your in :D



For Anime I would definatly add more details ;)



Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:13:51
I just realized that today was the Thirteenth.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 15:15:38
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I just realized that today was the Thirteenth.




yeppers :)



Usually a day of good luck for me



Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:18:32
:banana: Bust a Move!

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:24:34
MONDO!!!

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:25:09
Nice! leeching souls!

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:25:11
Nice! leeching souls!

Comment by Raine on 02/13/2009 15:25:48
I posted that picture last night..

Comment by BobR on 02/13/2009 15:26:19
Quote by Raine:

I just realized that today was the Thirteenth.


Yeah - perhaps I should've written the blog about triskaidekaphobia instead of such a heavy topic.

Comment by starling310 on 02/13/2009 15:27:07
That was my first thought when I saw C.O.M.

"Plastic surgery much!?"

They probably shouldn't have shown old pictures of her in that interview.



Comment by Mondobubba on 02/13/2009 15:29:24
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Nice! leeching souls!






Evil of his soul leech out of pores. I have to give my cousin props. She came up with the idea. I am going to take it national.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 15:34:47
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MONDO!!!








damn I missed it - stupid HOA duties getting in the way of work and blogging

Comment by Mondobubba on 02/13/2009 15:40:03
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

MONDO!!!








damn I missed it - stupid HOA duties getting in the way of work and blogging




I will repeat just for you, Mala.



The Boner is orange because of the pure evil in his soul leeching out of his pores and reacting with the cleansing power of sunlight and oxygen.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/13/2009 15:43:09
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

MONDO!!!








damn I missed it - stupid HOA duties getting in the way of work and blogging




I will repeat just for you, Mala.



The Boner is orange because of the pure evil in his soul leeching out of his pores and reacting with the cleansing power of sunlight and oxygen.




oohhh - sounds logical to me - chemical reactions and all ;)



Comment by Mondobubba on 02/13/2009 15:51:26
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

MONDO!!!








damn I missed it - stupid HOA duties getting in the way of work and blogging




I will repeat just for you, Mala.



The Boner is orange because of the pure evil in his soul leeching out of his pores and reacting with the cleansing power of sunlight and oxygen.




oohhh - sounds logical to me - chemical reactions and all ;)





Yep oxidization!