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SOTU SnNAFU, not FUBAR - yet
Author: Raine
Date: 01/28/2008 13:28:10
Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution:
Tonite, the pResident will give his final State of the Union Address to a Joint Session of congress. Final. Can you say that with me? This is the last time George W. Bush will give a SOTU address!
Ladies and Gentlemen. The state of our union is in trouble. It pains me to say this, but after 7 years , as progressives, as liberal, as activists, and people who wanted to stop all the damage that has been done to this country, after being mocked by the right wing as loons, and extremists, it pains me to say... We were right all along. I really wanted to be wrong.
This man has treated the constitution as tho it were just a piece of paper. He has endorsed torture. He spies on Americans. He has people arrested on bogus charges. He lied us into pre-emptive war. He outs CIA agents. When we screamed, we were told to sit down and shut up. WE were told we were wrong. WE were right.
His domestic policy has been all but non-existant. The Economy is flailing, our Children's is NOT learning, teachers are being laid off because of NCLB all over the coutnry, and students are dropping out of school. We have no real energy policy, with the exception of begging the Saudi's to drop the price of oil for us. New Orleans is still a mess. The price of food has skyrocketed. Health care costs are out of control. When we screamed, we were told to sit down and shut up. WE were told we were wrong. WE were right.
These are just a few things that this president did not take care of in the 7 years he was being the war president. And yet tonite, he will be pushing To have his *Big Ideas* finished before the end of his term.
Big Ideas? Like What? Some moments fom Past SOTU given by Bush:
And so now this year, he plans to push more of his big ideas. Oh-- for the day when we have a president who can speak with eloquence, act with decisivness, care for our people, OUR american people, cherish the constitution, and give us real security by making AMERICA great again. Oh-- for a president that does not want war.
Oh-- for the day, when these words are true:
"We look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms. The first is freedom of speech and expression -- everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way -- everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want -- which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants -- everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear." -- Franklin Roosevelt, January 6, 1941.
Tonite, when you watch, if you can watch, remember, that with every word out of his mouth we are a nation getting closer and closer to a more perfect Union, it will happen when he leaves the White House for for good.
See you inside.
"He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient."
Tonite, the pResident will give his final State of the Union Address to a Joint Session of congress. Final. Can you say that with me? This is the last time George W. Bush will give a SOTU address!
Ladies and Gentlemen. The state of our union is in trouble. It pains me to say this, but after 7 years , as progressives, as liberal, as activists, and people who wanted to stop all the damage that has been done to this country, after being mocked by the right wing as loons, and extremists, it pains me to say... We were right all along. I really wanted to be wrong.
This man has treated the constitution as tho it were just a piece of paper. He has endorsed torture. He spies on Americans. He has people arrested on bogus charges. He lied us into pre-emptive war. He outs CIA agents. When we screamed, we were told to sit down and shut up. WE were told we were wrong. WE were right.
His domestic policy has been all but non-existant. The Economy is flailing, our Children's is NOT learning, teachers are being laid off because of NCLB all over the coutnry, and students are dropping out of school. We have no real energy policy, with the exception of begging the Saudi's to drop the price of oil for us. New Orleans is still a mess. The price of food has skyrocketed. Health care costs are out of control. When we screamed, we were told to sit down and shut up. WE were told we were wrong. WE were right.
These are just a few things that this president did not take care of in the 7 years he was being the war president. And yet tonite, he will be pushing To have his *Big Ideas* finished before the end of his term.
Big Ideas? Like What? Some moments fom Past SOTU given by Bush:
- 2002: Bush warns that states like Iraq, Iran and North Korea constitute an "axis of evil" that is arming to threaten world peace.
- 2003: Building his case for war in Iraq, Bush says, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson publicly disputes Bush's statement in a newspaper column that precipitates the unmasking of his wife, former CIA employee Valerie Plame. The administration later acknowledged Bush's statement was unsubstantiated.
- 2004: Of Saddam Hussein, Bush says, "The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole and now sits in a prison cell."
- 2005: Bush challenges a hesitant Congress to change Social Security because it is "headed toward bankruptcy."
- 2006: In an unscripted moment, antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan, the mother of a fallen solider, is taken into custody by police after causing a disruption in the House visitors gallery just before Bush speaks.
- Democrats stand and cheer when Bush scolds Congress for not acting on his Social Security proposal. Unfazed, Bush wages his finger and continues, saying, "The rising cost of entitlements is a problem that is not going away."
- 2007: Recognizing Rep. Nancy Pelosi's new job as speaker of the House, Bush says he has the privilege of being the first president to begin the State of the Union message with the words "Madam Speaker."
And so now this year, he plans to push more of his big ideas. Oh-- for the day when we have a president who can speak with eloquence, act with decisivness, care for our people, OUR american people, cherish the constitution, and give us real security by making AMERICA great again. Oh-- for a president that does not want war.
Oh-- for the day, when these words are true:
"We look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms. The first is freedom of speech and expression -- everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way -- everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want -- which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants -- everywhere in the world. The fourth is freedom from fear." -- Franklin Roosevelt, January 6, 1941.
Tonite, when you watch, if you can watch, remember, that with every word out of his mouth we are a nation getting closer and closer to a more perfect Union, it will happen when he leaves the White House for for good.
See you inside.
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Comment by 
velveeta jones on 01/28/2008 13:33:17
velveeta jones on 01/28/2008 13:33:17
Excellent blog!!
I will be online tonight during the speech, guess I'll be the designated blogger driver? For all those taking shots for "War on Terra" ™, etc.
Oh...........and for any of you who, in your heart of hearts, thought bush wasn't lying when he said: "No innocent Americans are being wire-tapped", you'll want to check out this story about Pulitzer Prize winning author Lawrence Wright...........being spied on!
AlterNet link
Also: Am I first? WaHOOOO!
I will be online tonight during the speech, guess I'll be the designated blogger driver? For all those taking shots for "War on Terra" ™, etc.
Oh...........and for any of you who, in your heart of hearts, thought bush wasn't lying when he said: "No innocent Americans are being wire-tapped", you'll want to check out this story about Pulitzer Prize winning author Lawrence Wright...........being spied on!
AlterNet link
Also: Am I first? WaHOOOO!
Comment by 
BobR on 01/28/2008 13:39:31
BobR on 01/28/2008 13:39:31
Bush seems to care more about the Iraqi people than he does the American people.
Emphasis on "seems"....
sarcasm on "care"...
oh - and
Morning, folks... :coffee:
Emphasis on "seems"....
sarcasm on "care"...
oh - and
Morning, folks... :coffee:
Comment by 
Raine on 01/28/2008 13:43:33
Raine on 01/28/2008 13:43:33
:rofl: YEs ms. Jones, I will need a designated Blogger tonite!!! 
Comment by 
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 13:45:44
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 13:45:44
Mornin' Raine, Velveeta, et. al...
Great post. However, I would be a skosh more blunt - the State of the Union sucks.
On a brighter note - I'm gonna go see John Edwards tomorrow morning. He'll be here in Tulsa at a Union Hall and I'll be in the crowd. I still love John Edwards, although I realize that my Sunday "Shillary" post came across as an Obama endorsement, I still love John Edwards and his message and I hope that he stays in the race - I still send him $20 whenever I have any extra, which is less and less often these days - has anybody gone grocery shopping lately??? - spendy
Great post. However, I would be a skosh more blunt - the State of the Union sucks.
On a brighter note - I'm gonna go see John Edwards tomorrow morning. He'll be here in Tulsa at a Union Hall and I'll be in the crowd. I still love John Edwards, although I realize that my Sunday "Shillary" post came across as an Obama endorsement, I still love John Edwards and his message and I hope that he stays in the race - I still send him $20 whenever I have any extra, which is less and less often these days - has anybody gone grocery shopping lately??? - spendy
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 13:52:01
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 13:52:01
I'm betting the word that will put me over the proverbial ledge will be "strong" as in the state of our union is strong, the economy is strong, we are making strong progress in Iraq, blah, blah, blah - I'm predicting I'll be shitfaced about five minutes into the speech which is the only way I can watch dumbya any more...
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 13:58:02
Raine on 01/28/2008 13:58:02
From FireDogLake!
:clap:I think we can all thank Senator Dodd for this news! Now as per Fayes link yesterday, more phone calls need to be made!
Hillary Clinton will be in the Senate tomorrow to vote "no" on cloture on the Intel version of the FISA bill. The vote is scheduled to take place at 4:30 pm tomorrow.
I've also been trying to confirm whether Barack Obama will be there. His campaign people have not gotten back to me, but Obama does have a 4pm fundraiser scheduled in Washington DC.
Bravo, Senator Clinton. Well done.
UPDATE: The Obama campaign confirms that Senator Obama will be there too, and voting "no." Way to go, Senator.
:clap:I think we can all thank Senator Dodd for this news! Now as per Fayes link yesterday, more phone calls need to be made!
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/28/2008 14:00:29
TriSec on 01/28/2008 14:00:29
Morning, Comrades...
As I always do on this date....stop and remember for just a minute.
Francis R. (Dick) Scobee
Michael J. Smith
Judith A. Resnik
Ronald E. McNair
Ellison S. Onizuka
Gregory B. Jarvis
Sharon Christa McAuliffe
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
No 412 squadron, RCAF
Killed 11 December 1941
As I always do on this date....stop and remember for just a minute.
Francis R. (Dick) Scobee
Michael J. Smith
Judith A. Resnik
Ronald E. McNair
Ellison S. Onizuka
Gregory B. Jarvis
Sharon Christa McAuliffe
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
No 412 squadron, RCAF
Killed 11 December 1941
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:00:39
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:00:39
Give Faye some props for putting this out there!
FISA legislation is on the Senate floor. The vote is Monday. Senator Dodd will filibuster again, but he needs help! Isn't our privacy worth an hour of your time? Please - thank Senator Christopher Dodd [CT] Washington, DC 202-224-2823, Wethersfield, CT 800-334-5341 for what he is willingto do again ... filibuster! Leave a message with Harry Reid and as many others as you can over the weekend.
Senator Harry Reid [NV] Washington, DC 202-224-3542 (DC mailbox full), Carson City, 775-882-7343, Las Vegas, 702-388-5020 (Both take messages) Reid can stop any bill at any time - just needs a stiffer backbone. Most senators take voicemail messages on the weekend. Following please find a list with key Senators and their contact information (including homestate phone numbers).
Please call as many as you can. Please....give an hour of your time. In Washington this weekend and Monday, the telecom lobbyists are launching a full-court press for retroactive immunity. Bush/Cheney are doing everything in their power to ensure it passes. And too many Senate Democrats are ready to give the lobbyists and the Bush administration exactly what they want. Senate Democrats MUST filibuster revisions to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that would give "retroactive immunity"to the giant telecom companies for their role in aiding George W. Bush's illegal eavesdropping on American citizens. Their corporate lawyers are not stupid. They knew what they were doing was UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Please tell every Senate Democrat to do everything in her/his power - including joining Senator Dodd's efforts to filibuster this legislation - to stop retroactiveimmunity and stand up for the rule of law. The Constitution should not be for sale at any price. Here are 27 key Senators to call first: (27 x 2 min each = less than an hour of your time).
Senator Blanche Lambert Lincoln [AR] DEMOCRAT SWING VOTE, Washington, 202-224-4843, Texarkana, 870-774-3106, Little Rock, 501-375-2993
Senator Mark Pryor [AR] DEMOCRAT NOT SUPPORTING FILIBUSTER, Washington, 202-224-2353, Little Rock, 501-324-6336
Senator John McCain [AZ] Needs to be pressured, Washington, 202-224-2235, Press1 for voicemail, Tucson, 520-670-6334
Senator Ken Salazar [CO] DEMOCRAT NOT SUPPORTING FILIBUSTER, Washington, 202-224-5852 (DC mailbox full), Colorado Springs, 719-328-1100 (mailbox full), Grand Junction, 970-241-6631 (press 10)
Senator Joseph Lieberman [CT] SWING VOTE, Washington, 202-224-4041 (press 1), Hartford, 860-549-8463
Senator Joseph Biden [DE] DEMOCRAT must support Dodd's filibuster! Washington, 202-224-5042, Wilmington, 302-573-6345, Milford, 302-424-8090
Senator Thomas R Carper [DE] DEMOCRAT SWING VOTE, Washington, 202-224-2441 (30 second message), Georgetown, 302-856-7690, Wilmington, 302-573-6291
Senator Bill Nelson [FL] DEMOCRAT- not supporting filibuster, Washington,202-224-5274, Tallahassee, 850-942-8415, West Palm Beach, 561-514-0189
Senator John Ensign [NV] Great Guy! Needs encouragement, Washington,202-224-6244, Reno, 775-686-5770, Las Vegas, 702-388-6605, Carson City,775-885-9111
Senator Edward M Kennedy [MA] Ask him to speak on the floor against immunity. Washington, 202-224-4543, Boston, 617-565-3170
Senator John F Kerry [MA] Washington, 202-224-2742 (press 1), Worcester,508-831-7380
Senator Charles Schumer [NY] Ask him to speak also! Washington, 202-224-6542 (no answer), Rochester, 585-263-5866 (wait for beep), Buffalo, 716-846-4111, New York, 212-486-4430
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton [NY] Yeah, Yeah Yeah -- Just call her. Washington, 202-224-4451 (DC mailbox full), Albany, 518-431-0120 (One minute message), New York, 212-688-6262, Syracuse, 315-448-0470
Senator George Voinovich [OH] An Honest Republican! Needs encouragement --has broken with Repubs before on torture, Washington, 202-224-3353 (2 minute message), Cincinnati, 513-684-3265, Columbus, 614-469-6697
Senator Arlen Specter [PA] Repub. OPPOSED to IMMUNITY, has shown firm support for the rule of law, Washington, 202-224-4254 (2 minute message), Philadelphia, 215-597-7200, Erie, 814-453-3010, Harrisburg, 717-782-3951, Scranton, 570-346-2006, Pittsburgh, 412-644-3400
Senator Jack Reed [RI] DEMOCRAT SWING VOTE, Washington, 202-224-4642 (press 1), Cranston, 800-284-4200, Providence, 401-528-5200
Senator Shelton Whitehouse [RI] New Senator. Newbies usually pay close attention to phone calls. Washington, 202-224-2921, Providence, 401-453-5294, Newport, 401-845-0700
Senator Tim Johnson [SD] DEMOCRAT swing vote (He supported Alito's nomination but said he was "troubled" - so by now he should have seen the light), Washington, 202-224-5842, Aberdeen, 605-226-3440, Sioux Falls, 605-332-8896, Rapid City,605-341-3990
Senator John Warner [VA] Honest Repub. NOT running again - is ranking Rep. on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Washington, 202-224-2023, Norfolk, 757-441-3079
Senator Patrick Leahy [VT] DEMOCRAT- may oppose IMMUNITY, Washington, 202-224-4242, Burlington, 800-642-3193, Montpelier, 802-229-0569
Senator James Jeffords [VT] INDEPENDENT SWING VOTE, Washington,202-224-5141 (no answer), Burlington, 800-835-5500 (always busy)
Senator Patty Murray [WA] DEMOCRAT - sometimes swing vote, Washington, 202-224-2621, Everett, 425-259-6515, Seattle, 206-553-5545
Senator Maria Cantwell [WA] DEMOCRAT also a swing vote - needs encouragement, Washington, 202-224-3441(may re-record message), Everett, 425-303-0114, Tacoma, 253-572-2281, Seattle, 206-220-6400
Senator Herb Kohl [WI] DEMOCRAT SWING VOTE, Washington, 202-224-5653, Appleton, 920-738-1640, Madison, 608-264-5338, Milwaukee, 800-247-5645
Senator Russell Feingold [WI] Usually does the right thing, Washington, 202-224-5323, LaCrosse, 608-782-5585
Senator Robert Byrd [WV] DEMOCRAT who should be URGED to PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION, Washington, 202-224-3954, Charleston, 304-342-5855
Senator John Rockefeller [WV] DEMOCRAT SWING VOTE, Washington,202-224-6472, Charleston, 304-347-5372
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:03:33
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:03:33
Quote by TriSec: Morning, Comrades...
As I always do on this date....stop and remember for just a minute.
Francis R. (Dick) Scobee
Michael J. Smith
Judith A. Resnik
Ronald E. McNair
Ellison S. Onizuka
Gregory B. Jarvis
Sharon Christa McAuliffe
Comment by BobR on 01/28/2008 14:08:39
BobR on 01/28/2008 14:08:39
Quote by TriSec: Morning, Comrades...
As I always do on this date....stop and remember for just a minute.
Francis R. (Dick) Scobee
Michael J. Smith
Judith A. Resnik
Ronald E. McNair
Ellison S. Onizuka
Gregory B. Jarvis
Sharon Christa McAuliffe
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
No 412 squadron, RCAF
Killed 11 December 1941
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:08:58
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:08:58
Faye!?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:12:17
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:12:17
I am so glad momma said Cloke instead of Cock... :P
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 14:13:29
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 14:13:29
Raine,
Yep, that was a little list I sent into Momma last night. She didn't read all of them, but I was beginning to wonder if I'd done something to offend Steph...
But I guess not
Yep, that was a little list I sent into Momma last night. She didn't read all of them, but I was beginning to wonder if I'd done something to offend Steph...
But I guess not
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:14:44
NEW Red State Update!!!
Jackie likes Ol' Barack Obama!!!
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:14:44
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:15:29
YAY!
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:15:29
Quote by m-hadley: Raine,
Yep, that was a little list I sent into Momma last night. She didn't read all of them, but I was beginning to wonder if I'd done something to offend Steph...
But I guess not
Comment by BobR on 01/28/2008 14:18:32
Glad your going to see Edwards, but no need to feel like you have to hedge on Obama. We won't think any less of you... :P
BobR on 01/28/2008 14:18:32
Quote by m-hadley: Mornin' Raine, Velveeta, et. al...
Great post. However, I would be a skosh more blunt - the State of the Union sucks.
On a brighter note - I'm gonna go see John Edwards tomorrow morning. He'll be here in Tulsa at a Union Hall and I'll be in the crowd. I still love John Edwards, although I realize that my Sunday "Shillary" post came across as an Obama endorsement, I still love John Edwards and his message and I hope that he stays in the race - I still send him $20 whenever I have any extra, which is less and less often these days - has anybody gone grocery shopping lately??? - spendy
Glad your going to see Edwards, but no need to feel like you have to hedge on Obama. We won't think any less of you... :P
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:20:37
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:20:37
What pisses me off tho about Hillary possibly getting the nomination is that we are going to have more and more of these nasty attacks in this country. I am SO tired of these attacks from the right.
Comment by BobR on 01/28/2008 14:23:27
That's not a good reason to NOT vote for her...
... there are plenty of OTHER good reasons to not vote for her :D
BobR on 01/28/2008 14:23:27
Quote by Raine: What pisses me off tho about Hillary possibly getting the nomination is that we are going to have more and more of these nasty attacks in this country. I am SO tired of these attacks from the right.
That's not a good reason to NOT vote for her...
... there are plenty of OTHER good reasons to not vote for her :D
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:30:20
Howard Kurtz interviewed KO...
Think progress link, where part of the transcript is.. it's is pretty surprising stuff.
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:30:20
Howard Kurtz interviewed KO...
Think progress link, where part of the transcript is.. it's is pretty surprising stuff.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:31:44
Maybe not, but I suffer from right wing hate fatigue.
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:31:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine: What pisses me off tho about Hillary possibly getting the nomination is that we are going to have more and more of these nasty attacks in this country. I am SO tired of these attacks from the right.
That's not a good reason to NOT vote for her...
... there are plenty of OTHER good reasons to not vote for her :D
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:33:38
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:33:38
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:34:32
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:34:32
I hope we can get pictures from the shindig that Momma went to! It sounds like she had a blast!
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:35:29
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:35:29
I don't know about everyone else, but I really loe the fact that we have a REAL race this year! This is so good for our democracy... (you know, what is left of it... )
)
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:36:20
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:36:20
Obama didn't win with White men... They went towards edwards. I think the number that i saw was 56%..
This is a true horserace.
This is a true horserace.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:42:20
Rainse apologizes, her numbers are not correct. I am searching for more correct numbers... Please, talk amongst yourselves... here is a topc... Butter.
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:42:20
Quote by Raine: Obama didn't win with White men... They went towards edwards. I think the number that i saw was 56%..
This is a true horserace.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2008 14:45:21
TriSec on 01/28/2008 14:45:21
Say, does anyone have Rachel Maddow's old drinking game for the address this evening?
BTW, does anyone know why this is on a Monday this year? I never get to see these, as they are always on a Tuesday...
Unless it has something to do with that asteroid. (See yesterday's blog.)
"My Fellow Americans, a UGE space rock is going to crash into the eastern seaboard in 22 hours. Have a Nice day."
The thing that really pisses me off about the State of the Union...why does every president feel it necessary to insert the phrase "State of the Union" somewhere in the address?
And why the hell can't the do like Calvin Coolidge and just write a frickin' memo?
BTW, does anyone know why this is on a Monday this year? I never get to see these, as they are always on a Tuesday...
Unless it has something to do with that asteroid. (See yesterday's blog.)
"My Fellow Americans, a UGE space rock is going to crash into the eastern seaboard in 22 hours. Have a Nice day."
The thing that really pisses me off about the State of the Union...why does every president feel it necessary to insert the phrase "State of the Union" somewhere in the address?
And why the hell can't the do like Calvin Coolidge and just write a frickin' memo?
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/28/2008 14:51:28
livingonli on 01/28/2008 14:51:28
Good morning everyone. 
Nice blog there Raine.
BTW, Faye, on the Senator's list you should have Bernie Sanders instead of Jim Jeffords since Bernie now sits in that seat. I would presume Bernie will hopefully join the filibuster.
Nice blog there Raine.
BTW, Faye, on the Senator's list you should have Bernie Sanders instead of Jim Jeffords since Bernie now sits in that seat. I would presume Bernie will hopefully join the filibuster.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 14:55:22
Raine on 01/28/2008 14:55:22
Exit poll data from CNN that night:
Black voters: 81% Obama, 18% Clinton, 1% Edwards
White voters: Edwards 39%, Hillary 36%, Obama 24%
Black men: 80% Obama, 17% Clinton, 3% Edwards
Black women: 82% Obama, 17% Clinton
White men: Edwards 44%, Clinton 28%, Obama 27%
White women: Clinton 42%, Edwards 35%, Obama 22%
Source.
Black voters: 81% Obama, 18% Clinton, 1% Edwards
White voters: Edwards 39%, Hillary 36%, Obama 24%
Black men: 80% Obama, 17% Clinton, 3% Edwards
Black women: 82% Obama, 17% Clinton
White men: Edwards 44%, Clinton 28%, Obama 27%
White women: Clinton 42%, Edwards 35%, Obama 22%
Source.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:01:05
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:01:05
Comment by BobR on 01/28/2008 15:03:21
More info here:
BobR on 01/28/2008 15:03:21
Quote by Raine: Exit poll data from CNN that night:
Black voters: 81% Obama, 18% Clinton, 1% Edwards
White voters: Edwards 39%, Hillary 36%, Obama 24%
Black men: 80% Obama, 17% Clinton, 3% Edwards
Black women: 82% Obama, 17% Clinton
White men: Edwards 44%, Clinton 28%, Obama 27%
White women: Clinton 42%, Edwards 35%, Obama 22%
Source.
More info here:
Highlighting the decisive role race played in Saturday's voting, eight in 10 of Obama's votes came from blacks. About six in 10 of Clinton's and nearly all of Edwards' came from whites.
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 15:04:01
livingonli on 01/28/2008 15:04:01
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:06:34
Aaargh... I hate that work gets in the way of my cyber life, wish I could participate more this morning - I loved hearing Rep. Ellison - he sounds like such a righteous guy.
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:06:34
Quote by Raine: I don't know about everyone else, but I really loe the fact that we have a REAL race this year! This is so good for our democracy... (you know, what is left of it...
Aaargh... I hate that work gets in the way of my cyber life, wish I could participate more this morning - I loved hearing Rep. Ellison - he sounds like such a righteous guy.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:07:40
Found it!!!
How to play: Call some friends and co-workers and ask if they'll watch the speech with you. If you plan to watch in a bar or restaurant, call ahead to make sure they'll put the speech on for you - the odds (literally) are that the bartender hates Bush as much as the rest of the country, and he or she may not be planning on showing it unless you ask. Bring a print-out of these guidelines, so you know when to drink.
What to drink: Beer is the traditional choice for this game. Near-beer is better than it used to be if you're not drinking these days (sorry). If you hate beer but desire booze, try a half-strength highball - put one ounce of your favorite elixir (bourbon, gin, vodka, scotch, cognac, even tequila) in a glass full of ice, and top it all the way up with seltzer, tonic or soda.
When to drink:
If a TV commentator mentions Nancy Pelosi's outfit or hairstyle - drink once.
If a TV commentator mentions Dick Cheney's or George W. Bush's outfit or hairstyle - drink twice.
Standing ovation by both Democrats and Republicans - drink once.
Standing ovation by only Republicans - drink twice.
Standing ovation by only Democrats, yell "It's a trick! It's a trick! Don't believe him!" and drink half of what's in your glass.
If the president is caught on camera kissing any member of Congress - drink once.
If the person he's caught kissing is Joe Lieberman again, gargle your drink and try to make yourself barf a little.
Any mention of Saddam Hussein - drink once.
Any mention of the president of Iran - drink once.
If the president actually tries to pronounce the name of the president of Iran - drink twice.
Announcement of a troop increase for Afghanistan - drink twice.
Mention by name of any American killed or wounded in Iraq - drink once, and make an online donation to Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
Any mention of ethanol - drink once.
Any mention of "clean coal" - drink once.
Any reference to the 72 American miners killed on the job last year - drink twice.
A presidential shout-out to Michael J. Fox - drink once.
Any mention of "compassion" - drink once.
Any obscure Biblical reference - drink once.
Any mention of New Orleans - drink once, and think about making plans to visit New Orleans sometime in the next six months.
That's this year's game. You may want to print out this list for yourself ahead of time - you can also add any other expected Bushisms that drive you nuts.
Pick a designated driver, of course. Drink water. Take ibuprofen. Recommit to reclaiming your country.
=====================================================================
I am sure this will be updated, And I think we will open a new blog with the drinking game before the SOTU speech.
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:07:40
Quote by TriSec: Say, does anyone have Rachel Maddow's old drinking game for the address this evening?
Found it!!!
How to play: Call some friends and co-workers and ask if they'll watch the speech with you. If you plan to watch in a bar or restaurant, call ahead to make sure they'll put the speech on for you - the odds (literally) are that the bartender hates Bush as much as the rest of the country, and he or she may not be planning on showing it unless you ask. Bring a print-out of these guidelines, so you know when to drink.
What to drink: Beer is the traditional choice for this game. Near-beer is better than it used to be if you're not drinking these days (sorry). If you hate beer but desire booze, try a half-strength highball - put one ounce of your favorite elixir (bourbon, gin, vodka, scotch, cognac, even tequila) in a glass full of ice, and top it all the way up with seltzer, tonic or soda.
When to drink:
If a TV commentator mentions Nancy Pelosi's outfit or hairstyle - drink once.
If a TV commentator mentions Dick Cheney's or George W. Bush's outfit or hairstyle - drink twice.
Standing ovation by both Democrats and Republicans - drink once.
Standing ovation by only Republicans - drink twice.
Standing ovation by only Democrats, yell "It's a trick! It's a trick! Don't believe him!" and drink half of what's in your glass.
If the president is caught on camera kissing any member of Congress - drink once.
If the person he's caught kissing is Joe Lieberman again, gargle your drink and try to make yourself barf a little.
Any mention of Saddam Hussein - drink once.
Any mention of the president of Iran - drink once.
If the president actually tries to pronounce the name of the president of Iran - drink twice.
Announcement of a troop increase for Afghanistan - drink twice.
Mention by name of any American killed or wounded in Iraq - drink once, and make an online donation to Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
Any mention of ethanol - drink once.
Any mention of "clean coal" - drink once.
Any reference to the 72 American miners killed on the job last year - drink twice.
A presidential shout-out to Michael J. Fox - drink once.
Any mention of "compassion" - drink once.
Any obscure Biblical reference - drink once.
Any mention of New Orleans - drink once, and think about making plans to visit New Orleans sometime in the next six months.
That's this year's game. You may want to print out this list for yourself ahead of time - you can also add any other expected Bushisms that drive you nuts.
Pick a designated driver, of course. Drink water. Take ibuprofen. Recommit to reclaiming your country.
=====================================================================
I am sure this will be updated, And I think we will open a new blog with the drinking game before the SOTU speech.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:10:28
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:10:28
A big hello to our Fair 
rebekeh!!!
rebekeh!!!
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:23:19
Thanks for the heads up Livingonli,
I made the change and added a few more phone numbers since I had trouble getting through on the numbers that were listed on the post yesterday... Thanks again. ;)
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:23:19
Quote by livingonli: Good morning everyone.
Nice blog there Raine.
BTW, Faye, on the Senator's list you should have Bernie Sanders instead of Jim Jeffords since Bernie now sits in that seat. I would presume Bernie will hopefully join the filibuster.
Thanks for the heads up Livingonli,
I made the change and added a few more phone numbers since I had trouble getting through on the numbers that were listed on the post yesterday... Thanks again. ;)
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:29:23
Thanks mucho, Raine,
I also appreciate the sage advice about how to last throughout the majority of the speech - rather than pass out on my futon sometime in the first five minutes...
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:29:23
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec: Say, does anyone have Rachel Maddow's old drinking game for the address this evening?
Found it!!!
How to play: Call some friends and co-workers and ask if they'll watch the speech with you. If you plan to watch in a bar or restaurant, call ahead to make sure they'll put the speech on for you - the odds (literally) are that the bartender hates Bush as much as the rest of the country, and he or she may not be planning on showing it unless you ask. Bring a print-out of these guidelines, so you know when to drink.
What to drink: Beer is the traditional choice for this game. Near-beer is better than it used to be if you're not drinking these days (sorry). If you hate beer but desire booze, try a half-strength highball - put one ounce of your favorite elixir (bourbon, gin, vodka, scotch, cognac, even tequila) in a glass full of ice, and top it all the way up with seltzer, tonic or soda.
When to drink:
If a TV commentator mentions Nancy Pelosi's outfit or hairstyle - drink once.
If a TV commentator mentions Dick Cheney's or George W. Bush's outfit or hairstyle - drink twice.
Standing ovation by both Democrats and Republicans - drink once.
Standing ovation by only Republicans - drink twice.
Standing ovation by only Democrats, yell "It's a trick! It's a trick! Don't believe him!" and drink half of what's in your glass.
If the president is caught on camera kissing any member of Congress - drink once.
If the person he's caught kissing is Joe Lieberman again, gargle your drink and try to make yourself barf a little.
Any mention of Saddam Hussein - drink once.
Any mention of the president of Iran - drink once.
If the president actually tries to pronounce the name of the president of Iran - drink twice.
Announcement of a troop increase for Afghanistan - drink twice.
Mention by name of any American killed or wounded in Iraq - drink once, and make an online donation to Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
Any mention of ethanol - drink once.
Any mention of "clean coal" - drink once.
Any reference to the 72 American miners killed on the job last year - drink twice.
A presidential shout-out to Michael J. Fox - drink once.
Any mention of "compassion" - drink once.
Any obscure Biblical reference - drink once.
Any mention of New Orleans - drink once, and think about making plans to visit New Orleans sometime in the next six months.
That's this year's game. You may want to print out this list for yourself ahead of time - you can also add any other expected Bushisms that drive you nuts.
Pick a designated driver, of course. Drink water. Take ibuprofen. Recommit to reclaiming your country.
=====================================================================
I am sure this will be updated, And I think we will open a new blog with the drinking game before the SOTU speech.
Thanks mucho, Raine,
I also appreciate the sage advice about how to last throughout the majority of the speech - rather than pass out on my futon sometime in the first five minutes...
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:30:35
SSSHHHHHHHHH.... And don't tell...
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:30:35
According to entries on The Huffington Post, Inside Cable News and TV Newser Fox News anchor Alan Colmes has a "secret blog" called Liberal Land. Alan now links to the blog from his website so it really isn't much of a secret anymore. The blog is located at www.liberalland.com and liberalland.blogspot.com. Colmes has been posting to the blog since November.
SSSHHHHHHHHH.... And don't tell...
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 15:31:44
livingonli on 01/28/2008 15:31:44
Oh, Alan, you proud liberal, you. 
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:40:38
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:40:38
From the Chicago Tribune:
Antoin "Tony" Rezko was arrested early Monday at his Wilmette home by federal agents on an alleged bond violation, the Tribune has learned.
Investigators had in recent weeks become concerned about the movement of some of his finances, a source said.
Rezko, who is scheduled to stand trial on corruption charges in less than a month, was in the courtroom of U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve, his trial judge, at 8:35 a.m. He could be seen at a defense table going over papers with his lawyer, Joseph Duffy. A jury is to be selected at Dirksen U.S. Courthouse to hear his case beginning Feb. 25.
Duffy said any activity involving Rezko's finances has been under the supervision of attorneys helping him with his debts.
"I'm confused by this," he said. "We're waiting to hear more."
Tom Simon, an FBI spokesman, said a bond revocation hearing was continued until 12:30 p.m.
"We can confirm that Tony Rezko was arrested without incident this morning at his home in Wilmette," Simon said.
Antoin "Tony" Rezko was arrested early Monday at his Wilmette home by federal agents on an alleged bond violation, the Tribune has learned.
Investigators had in recent weeks become concerned about the movement of some of his finances, a source said.
Rezko, who is scheduled to stand trial on corruption charges in less than a month, was in the courtroom of U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve, his trial judge, at 8:35 a.m. He could be seen at a defense table going over papers with his lawyer, Joseph Duffy. A jury is to be selected at Dirksen U.S. Courthouse to hear his case beginning Feb. 25.
Duffy said any activity involving Rezko's finances has been under the supervision of attorneys helping him with his debts.
"I'm confused by this," he said. "We're waiting to hear more."
Tom Simon, an FBI spokesman, said a bond revocation hearing was continued until 12:30 p.m.
"We can confirm that Tony Rezko was arrested without incident this morning at his home in Wilmette," Simon said.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:43:37
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:43:37
Wow, 
just took downtown... 
just took downtown...
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 15:45:36
I loved it. Someone's gotta show the love for Edwards.
livingonli on 01/28/2008 15:45:36
Quote by Raine: Wow,
I loved it. Someone's gotta show the love for Edwards.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:48:59
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:48:59
It was indeed expected that Obama would win.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:49:44
:bump:
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:49:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine: Exit poll data from CNN that night:
Black voters: 81% Obama, 18% Clinton, 1% Edwards
White voters: Edwards 39%, Hillary 36%, Obama 24%
Black men: 80% Obama, 17% Clinton, 3% Edwards
Black women: 82% Obama, 17% Clinton
White men: Edwards 44%, Clinton 28%, Obama 27%
White women: Clinton 42%, Edwards 35%, Obama 22%
Source.
More info here:Highlighting the decisive role race played in Saturday's voting, eight in 10 of Obama's votes came from blacks. About six in 10 of Clinton's and nearly all of Edwards' came from whites.
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:51:26
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 15:51:26
Heya,
Here's a cool site that has collected over 300 folks who have written their own "the Real State of the Union" Check it out - the consensus is that the State of the Union sucks...
Progress OHIO the Real State of the Union
Here's a cool site that has collected over 300 folks who have written their own "the Real State of the Union" Check it out - the consensus is that the State of the Union sucks...
Progress OHIO the Real State of the Union
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:53:06
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:53:06
I think this bears repeating from Saturday, regarding the campaigns:
Quote by BobR: My friend Stan just called... he said:
The Democratic contest is still a horserace because there's so many good candidates.
The Republican contest is still a horserace because there aren't ANY good candidates...
:lol: :P
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 15:56:10
Raine on 01/28/2008 15:56:10
BUT... as far as Bill clinton goes, if he is hurting her, then Hillary is the one who is responsible for that happening.
I think truthfully that she and he are doing this on purpose... and it is sad.
I think truthfully that she and he are doing this on purpose... and it is sad.
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:01:17
livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:01:17
Where's Mala and Star this morning?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:14:03
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:14:03
I love when scolds like she is a naughty girl!!!
scolds like she is a naughty girl!!!
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:15:45
livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:15:45
How is Momma gonna do TV that late at night?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:16:30
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:16:30
For something that happened FIVE YEARS AGO?!?!? OMG.
That is pathetic.
That is pathetic.
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:27:39
livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:27:39
Romney is down with his Homies. Word to your mother.
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:32:55
livingonli on 01/28/2008 16:32:55
CNN International says Hillary will be in Florida tomorrow. No one is campaigning there because the primary doesn't count. But she wants to change the rules.
Bitch.
Bitch.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:40:21
I don't like that she is doing this. I also am not happy that she is trying to use those delagates from Michigan... 
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:40:21
Quote by livingonli: CNN International says Hillary will be in Florida tomorrow. No one is campaigning there because the primary doesn't count. But she wants to change the rules.
Bitch.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:41:26
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:41:26
I can't give up my sushi.
Sorry -- I really can't. :(
Sorry -- I really can't. :(
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:42:53
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:42:53
:(
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/28/2008 16:44:40
wickedpam on 01/28/2008 16:44:40
Morning! :hug:
Ugh - doc appointment took most of my morning, what a pain.
Ugh - doc appointment took most of my morning, what a pain.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:51:46
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:51:46
In the end, people will get over this... democratcs will come together, but ...
Right now this is OUR PRIMARY PROCESS, where we as a party, get to decide who we want to be the nominee.
Right now this is OUR PRIMARY PROCESS, where we as a party, get to decide who we want to be the nominee.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2008 16:52:07
Very cool stuff!
I know you won't mind...I cross-posted this over to UNN. With full credit to you, of course! : doffs cap :
TriSec on 01/28/2008 16:52:07
Quote by m-hadley: Heya,
Here's a cool site that has collected over 300 folks who have written their own "the Real State of the Union" Check it out - the consensus is that the State of the Union sucks...
Progress OHIO the Real State of the Union
Very cool stuff!
I know you won't mind...I cross-posted this over to UNN. With full credit to you, of course! : doffs cap :
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:52:56
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:52:56
That speech still sound like "this land is your Land" by Arloe Guthrie...
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:54:41
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:54:41
HEY! Pobre
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:56:33
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:56:33
I truthfully think at this point HILLARY wants Edwards to stay in the race...
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 16:59:31
Raine on 01/28/2008 16:59:31
Just a reminder to everyone, we will be opening up a SOTU blog about an hour before the pResident starts burning sulfurous gasses from his oralatory ventalation system.
Comment by m-hadley on 01/28/2008 17:00:53
,
Another reason Shillary is ticking me off, I heard this morning on NPR that all the Dems had signed an agreement saying that they wouldn't campaign in Florida, because of the DNC decision to penalize Florida for moving their primary - I am not saying that that was a good decision, but in my mind an agreement made is an agreement played. I guess to Shill, that is just a goddamned piece of paper. Oooooh, the Clinton show is really turning me off
m-hadley on 01/28/2008 17:00:53
Quote by Raine:I don't like that she is doing this. I also am not happy that she is trying to use those delagates from Michigan...Quote by livingonli: CNN International says Hillary will be in Florida tomorrow. No one is campaigning there because the primary doesn't count. But she wants to change the rules.
Bitch.
Another reason Shillary is ticking me off, I heard this morning on NPR that all the Dems had signed an agreement saying that they wouldn't campaign in Florida, because of the DNC decision to penalize Florida for moving their primary - I am not saying that that was a good decision, but in my mind an agreement made is an agreement played. I guess to Shill, that is just a goddamned piece of paper. Oooooh, the Clinton show is really turning me off
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 17:01:21
Raine on 01/28/2008 17:01:21
Does anyone know what time Dennis is going to introduce the Articles of Impeachment?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 17:06:08
Raine on 01/28/2008 17:06:08
:huh: MMitt says that if a dem gets into office it will be taking down a long road towrds Europe?
Uhm, isn't Europe doing far better than america economically and with quality of life, and healthcare, and education, and .... Oh bother...
Uhm, isn't Europe doing far better than america economically and with quality of life, and healthcare, and education, and .... Oh bother...
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2008 17:11:38
TriSec on 01/28/2008 17:11:38
Posted at UNN:
Like the invite says, if you belong to any other websites...please pass along the invite! We'll see everyone there tonight. (Including me, since it's Monday and I don't have school!)
Good Afternoon.
Everyone is cordially invited to a blog event this evening at Four Freedoms.
http://www.fourfreedomsblog.com/BlogList.php
We’ll open a new blog for the evening about an hour before the "President" comes on to discuss the State of the Union address. Come and compare and contrast the state of your union to the ‘vision’ the "President" has.
There will be drinking games, fellowship, and a shared feeling of anguish.
But….and everyone say it with me…."This is George Bush’s LAST state of the Union address." Have you ever heard sweeter words?
See you there tonight!
And please pass this invitation along to any other websites you may be lurking about…the more the merrier!
(If you’re not already a member of Four Freedoms, you’ll need to complete a brief registration to come and play. Don’t worry….it’s free!)
Like the invite says, if you belong to any other websites...please pass along the invite! We'll see everyone there tonight. (Including me, since it's Monday and I don't have school!)
Comment by BobR on 01/28/2008 17:18:04
Sadly, I may not be able to participate, since I may be working at my 2nd job tonight (how uniquely American...
)
BobR on 01/28/2008 17:18:04
Quote by TriSec: Posted at UNN:
Like the invite says, if you belong to any other websites...please pass along the invite! We'll see everyone there tonight. (Including me, since it's Monday and I don't have school!)
Sadly, I may not be able to participate, since I may be working at my 2nd job tonight (how uniquely American...
)
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 17:22:35
Pretty much. Right now the places with the highest quality of life and the ability to move up economically are the Scandanavian countries and France. I guess the Rethugs count on an ill-informed population not to notice this.
livingonli on 01/28/2008 17:22:35
Quote by Raine:MMitt says that if a dem gets into office it will be taking down a long road towrds Europe?
Uhm, isn't Europe doing far better than america economically and with quality of life, and healthcare, and education, and .... Oh bother...
Pretty much. Right now the places with the highest quality of life and the ability to move up economically are the Scandanavian countries and France. I guess the Rethugs count on an ill-informed population not to notice this.
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 17:23:53
livingonli on 01/28/2008 17:23:53
And a belated Good Afternoon to Mala.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2008 17:38:58
wickedpam on 01/28/2008 17:38:58
Heyya Liv and all!
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 17:51:28
And after watching Sicko I wanted to move to France.
livingonli on 01/28/2008 17:51:28
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Uhm, isn't Europe doing far better than america economically and with quality of life, and healthcare, and education, and .... Oh bother...
Pretty much. Right now the places with the highest quality of life and the ability to move up economically are the Scandanavian countries and France. I guess the Rethugs count on an ill-informed population not to notice this.
And after watching Sicko I wanted to move to France.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2008 18:57:42
wickedpam on 01/28/2008 18:57:42
Okay what happened in SC this weekend, beside Obama winning the primary. I don't get to see news on the weekend.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2008 19:43:21
:dance2:
Bobr, TriSec, and Livin' entertain the crowd...
TriSec on 01/28/2008 19:43:21
:dance2: Bobr, TriSec, and Livin' entertain the crowd...
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 19:47:19
w00t!
livingonli on 01/28/2008 19:47:19
Quote by TriSec:
Bobr, TriSec, and Livin' entertain the crowd...
w00t!
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 20:01:04
livingonli on 01/28/2008 20:01:04
Before I head off to the salt mine, just want to make sure everyone knows that Sam is filling in for Randi today.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2008 20:08:34
wickedpam on 01/28/2008 20:08:34
Quote by TriSec:
Bobr, TriSec, and Livin' entertain the crowd...
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/28/2008 20:53:32
velveeta jones on 01/28/2008 20:53:32
Hey all,
I've been in semi-lurk mode all day. Many errands. Missed Steph completely.
Anyone know if the FISA thing will be on C-Span? I believe its at 4 or 4:30 EST.
I've been in semi-lurk mode all day. Many errands. Missed Steph completely.
Anyone know if the FISA thing will be on C-Span? I believe its at 4 or 4:30 EST.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2008 21:00:56
wickedpam on 01/28/2008 21:00:56
not sure - Sam was talking about it though
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 21:10:44
Raine on 01/28/2008 21:10:44
I was busy making The official 4F cocktail and beer blog.
Ahead of creating the SOTU blog tonite, I figured this was as good a time as any to create one.
It's the official clearing house for all things imbibe-able. Please feel free to add your faves there.
:peace: and :heart:
Ahead of creating the SOTU blog tonite, I figured this was as good a time as any to create one.
It's the official clearing house for all things imbibe-able. Please feel free to add your faves there.
:peace: and :heart:
Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2008 21:19:47
Senate sessions should be on C-SPAN 2.
livingonli on 01/28/2008 21:19:47
Quote by velveeta jones: Hey all,
I've been in semi-lurk mode all day. Many errands. Missed Steph completely.
Anyone know if the FISA thing will be on C-Span? I believe its at 4 or 4:30 EST.
Senate sessions should be on C-SPAN 2.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 21:20:03
Raine on 01/28/2008 21:20:03
So do we have an updated Drinking game yet? Anything from the Good Dr.?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 21:48:55
HEy! IT looks like we are going to see him Wednesday night! He will be back in town at the World congress center. I just RSVP'd for tickets for us! 
That it wasn't too late!!!
Raine on 01/28/2008 21:48:55
Quote by m-hadley: Mornin' Raine, Velveeta, et. al...
Great post. However, I would be a skosh more blunt - the State of the Union sucks.
On a brighter note - I'm gonna go see John Edwards tomorrow morning. He'll be here in Tulsa at a Union Hall and I'll be in the crowd. I still love John Edwards, although I realize that my Sunday "Shillary" post came across as an Obama endorsement, I still love John Edwards and his message and I hope that he stays in the race - I still send him $20 whenever I have any extra, which is less and less often these days - has anybody gone grocery shopping lately??? - spendy
That it wasn't too late!!!
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/28/2008 22:05:35
velveeta jones on 01/28/2008 22:05:35
Watching it on C-Span 2 now.
Dammit.
Dammit.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:27:11
Wait, so was it not reauthorized?
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:27:11
Quote by velveeta jones: Watching it on C-Span 2 now. Dammit.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:28:15
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:28:15
Thr Listenign to someone onSam today, they said the pResident would veto an extention, there byw making the entire bill to go back to the way it used to be..
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:34:34
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:34:34
So wait, the immunity Failed?
Velveeta, I just turned on the span, can you fill me in on what happened?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:36:45
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:36:45
sam updating... the motion to invoke cloture failed. They kept the debate open.
Then they attempted to vote on a 3o day extention under the 
protect America act, they could not reach cloture...
So... as of Friday we will return to the old FISA act. This is good news, isn't it?
protect America act, they could not reach cloture...
So... as of Friday we will return to the old FISA act. This is good news, isn't it?
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:40:50
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:40:50
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:52:35
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:52:35
you know, a little while ago, (and it just hit me now) I thought I heard SAm say that BArack was a constitutional Law professor, I hope I did not here that, becuase if so that is not true.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 22:55:28
Raine on 01/28/2008 22:55:28
Sams drinking word... *Uhmmmmm*
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 23:07:52
Raine on 01/28/2008 23:07:52
YAY! the good doctor will indeed have her drinking game! 
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 23:10:53
Raine on 01/28/2008 23:10:53
I love that Rach is talking about past SOTU addresses.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 23:11:46
Raine on 01/28/2008 23:11:46
HEY!!!! Rach MENTIONED FOUR FREEDOMS!!!! 
All Hail the good Doctor... :bow:
All Hail the good Doctor... :bow:
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2008 23:24:58
On edit, it was *THE* four freedoms, but it came on the heals of her revisiting past W SOTU adresses.
Raine on 01/28/2008 23:24:58
Quote by Raine: HEY!!!! Rach MENTIONED FOUR FREEDOMS!!!!
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2008 00:14:20
If you had a drink every time W said that, we would all be shit-faced.
livingonli on 01/29/2008 00:14:20
Quote by Raine: Sams drinking word... *Uhmmmmm*
:rofl:
If you had a drink every time W said that, we would all be shit-faced.
Comment by m-hadley on 01/29/2008 00:34:21
m-hadley on 01/29/2008 00:34:21
Heya gang,
I'm brewing up a pot of coffee - I'll be doing shots of java during the debate, otherwise I'll fall asleep before Momma comes on the TeeVee...
Just had to share an excellent (scary, sad and sobering) video that I just received via an e-mail:
New Bush Coins Watch it and weep...
I'll check back in in a few...
Cheers,
MFaye
I'm brewing up a pot of coffee - I'll be doing shots of java during the debate, otherwise I'll fall asleep before Momma comes on the TeeVee...
Just had to share an excellent (scary, sad and sobering) video that I just received via an e-mail:
New Bush Coins Watch it and weep...
I'll check back in in a few...Cheers,
MFaye
Comment by m-hadley on 01/29/2008 00:45:40
Here's the word I just got from CREDO (formerly Working Assets):
Update on Illegal Wiretapping and Retroactive Immunity
Thanks to your actions, we've been successful in preventing the Senate from passing a wiretapping bill that grants retroactive immunity to AT&T and Verizon.
Just a little while ago, the Senate rejected attempts to rush this bill to passage, keeping alive our campaign to remove the immunity provisions. But while we've won the battle today, what happens later this week will determine whether the Senate will do the bidding of the White House or stand up for the Constitution. Tonight, if you watch Mr. Bush in his last State of the Union speech, be prepared to hear the fruits of your labors described as helping the terrorists -- but you know better.
Action Still Needed to Block Retroactive Immunity
The privacy-invading "Protect America Act" expires on February 1st. In coming days, the Senate will debate a series of amendments to the wiretapping legislation -- some good, some bad, but all of them vitally important when it comes to preserving our Constitution and upholding the rule of law. Here's what you can do.
The Senators listed below have been identified as swing votes on upcoming wiretapping amendments. If you have friends or family in the states below, please forward this email and ask that they contact their senators to oppose retroactive immunity, sweeping new powers for the Bush administration, and any new legislation that violates the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Arizona -- John McCain, (202) 224-2235
Arkansas -- Blanche Lincoln, (202) 224-4843; Mark Pryor, (202) 224-2353
California -- Dianne Feinstein, (202) 224-3841
Colorado -- Ken Salazar, (202) 224-5852
Connecticut -- Joe Lieberman, (202) 224-4041
Delaware -- Thomas Carper, (202) 224-2441
Florida -- Bill Nelson, (202) 224-5274
Georgia -- Saxby Chambliss, (202) 224-3521
Hawaii -- Daniel Inouye, (202) 224-3934
Illinois -- Barack Obama, (202) 224-2854
Indiana -- Evan Bayh, (202) 224-5623
Louisiana -- Mary Landrieu, (202)224-5824
Maine -- Olympia Snowe, (202) 224-5344 and Susan Collins, (202) 224-2523
Maryland -- Barbara Mikulski, (202) 224-4654
Michigan -- Debbie Stabenow, (202) 224-4822
Minnesota -- Norm Coleman, (202) 224-5641
Missouri -- Claire McCaskill, (202) 224-6154
Nebraska -- Ben Nelson, (202) 224-6551
New Hampshire -- John Sununu, (202) 224-2841
New York -- Hillary Clinton, (202) 224-4451
North Carolina -- Elizabeth Dole, (202) 224-6342
Oregon -- Gordon Smith, (202) 224-3753
Pennsylvania -- Arlen Specter, (202) 224-4254
South Carolina -- Lindsey Graham, (202) 224-5972
South Dakota -- Tim Johnson, (202) 224-5842
Virginia -- John Warner, (202) 224-2023
West Virginia -- Robert Byrd, (202) 224-3954
Wisconsin -- Herb Kohl, (202) 224-5653
Thank you for working to build a better world.
Michael Kieschnick, President and Co-Founder
CREDO Mobile
m-hadley on 01/29/2008 00:45:40
Quote by Raine: So wait, the immunity Failed?
Velveeta, I just turned on the span, can you fill me in on what happened?
Here's the word I just got from CREDO (formerly Working Assets):
Update on Illegal Wiretapping and Retroactive Immunity
Thanks to your actions, we've been successful in preventing the Senate from passing a wiretapping bill that grants retroactive immunity to AT&T and Verizon.
Just a little while ago, the Senate rejected attempts to rush this bill to passage, keeping alive our campaign to remove the immunity provisions. But while we've won the battle today, what happens later this week will determine whether the Senate will do the bidding of the White House or stand up for the Constitution. Tonight, if you watch Mr. Bush in his last State of the Union speech, be prepared to hear the fruits of your labors described as helping the terrorists -- but you know better.
Action Still Needed to Block Retroactive Immunity
The privacy-invading "Protect America Act" expires on February 1st. In coming days, the Senate will debate a series of amendments to the wiretapping legislation -- some good, some bad, but all of them vitally important when it comes to preserving our Constitution and upholding the rule of law. Here's what you can do.
The Senators listed below have been identified as swing votes on upcoming wiretapping amendments. If you have friends or family in the states below, please forward this email and ask that they contact their senators to oppose retroactive immunity, sweeping new powers for the Bush administration, and any new legislation that violates the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Arizona -- John McCain, (202) 224-2235
Arkansas -- Blanche Lincoln, (202) 224-4843; Mark Pryor, (202) 224-2353
California -- Dianne Feinstein, (202) 224-3841
Colorado -- Ken Salazar, (202) 224-5852
Connecticut -- Joe Lieberman, (202) 224-4041
Delaware -- Thomas Carper, (202) 224-2441
Florida -- Bill Nelson, (202) 224-5274
Georgia -- Saxby Chambliss, (202) 224-3521
Hawaii -- Daniel Inouye, (202) 224-3934
Illinois -- Barack Obama, (202) 224-2854
Indiana -- Evan Bayh, (202) 224-5623
Louisiana -- Mary Landrieu, (202)224-5824
Maine -- Olympia Snowe, (202) 224-5344 and Susan Collins, (202) 224-2523
Maryland -- Barbara Mikulski, (202) 224-4654
Michigan -- Debbie Stabenow, (202) 224-4822
Minnesota -- Norm Coleman, (202) 224-5641
Missouri -- Claire McCaskill, (202) 224-6154
Nebraska -- Ben Nelson, (202) 224-6551
New Hampshire -- John Sununu, (202) 224-2841
New York -- Hillary Clinton, (202) 224-4451
North Carolina -- Elizabeth Dole, (202) 224-6342
Oregon -- Gordon Smith, (202) 224-3753
Pennsylvania -- Arlen Specter, (202) 224-4254
South Carolina -- Lindsey Graham, (202) 224-5972
South Dakota -- Tim Johnson, (202) 224-5842
Virginia -- John Warner, (202) 224-2023
West Virginia -- Robert Byrd, (202) 224-3954
Wisconsin -- Herb Kohl, (202) 224-5653
Thank you for working to build a better world.
Michael Kieschnick, President and Co-Founder
CREDO Mobile
Comment by livingonli on 01/29/2008 00:46:42
livingonli on 01/29/2008 00:46:42
THe officail Rachel Maddow drinking game
If I wasn't at work and I stayed home and watched that POS SOTU I would definitely need a lot of them.
If I wasn't at work and I stayed home and watched that POS SOTU I would definitely need a lot of them.
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2008 01:48:24
I posted this over at the SOTU blog! Come on over and join us!!!
Raine on 01/29/2008 01:48:24
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine: So wait, the immunity Failed?
Velveeta, I just turned on the span, can you fill me in on what happened?
Here's the word I just got from CREDO (formerly Working Assets):
Update on Illegal Wiretapping and Retroactive Immunity
Thanks to your actions, we've been successful in preventing the Senate from passing a wiretapping bill that grants retroactive immunity to AT&T and Verizon.
Just a little while ago, the Senate rejected attempts to rush this bill to passage, keeping alive our campaign to remove the immunity provisions. But while we've won the battle today, what happens later this week will determine whether the Senate will do the bidding of the White House or stand up for the Constitution. Tonight, if you watch Mr. Bush in his last State of the Union speech, be prepared to hear the fruits of your labors described as helping the terrorists -- but you know better.
Action Still Needed to Block Retroactive Immunity
The privacy-invading "Protect America Act" expires on February 1st. In coming days, the Senate will debate a series of amendments to the wiretapping legislation -- some good, some bad, but all of them vitally important when it comes to preserving our Constitution and upholding the rule of law. Here's what you can do.
The Senators listed below have been identified as swing votes on upcoming wiretapping amendments. If you have friends or family in the states below, please forward this email and ask that they contact their senators to oppose retroactive immunity, sweeping new powers for the Bush administration, and any new legislation that violates the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Arizona -- John McCain, (202) 224-2235
Arkansas -- Blanche Lincoln, (202) 224-4843; Mark Pryor, (202) 224-2353
California -- Dianne Feinstein, (202) 224-3841
Colorado -- Ken Salazar, (202) 224-5852
Connecticut -- Joe Lieberman, (202) 224-4041
Delaware -- Thomas Carper, (202) 224-2441
Florida -- Bill Nelson, (202) 224-5274
Georgia -- Saxby Chambliss, (202) 224-3521
Hawaii -- Daniel Inouye, (202) 224-3934
Illinois -- Barack Obama, (202) 224-2854
Indiana -- Evan Bayh, (202) 224-5623
Louisiana -- Mary Landrieu, (202)224-5824
Maine -- Olympia Snowe, (202) 224-5344 and Susan Collins, (202) 224-2523
Maryland -- Barbara Mikulski, (202) 224-4654
Michigan -- Debbie Stabenow, (202) 224-4822
Minnesota -- Norm Coleman, (202) 224-5641
Missouri -- Claire McCaskill, (202) 224-6154
Nebraska -- Ben Nelson, (202) 224-6551
New Hampshire -- John Sununu, (202) 224-2841
New York -- Hillary Clinton, (202) 224-4451
North Carolina -- Elizabeth Dole, (202) 224-6342
Oregon -- Gordon Smith, (202) 224-3753
Pennsylvania -- Arlen Specter, (202) 224-4254
South Carolina -- Lindsey Graham, (202) 224-5972
South Dakota -- Tim Johnson, (202) 224-5842
Virginia -- John Warner, (202) 224-2023
West Virginia -- Robert Byrd, (202) 224-3954
Wisconsin -- Herb Kohl, (202) 224-5653
Thank you for working to build a better world.
Michael Kieschnick, President and Co-Founder
CREDO Mobile
Comment by Raine on 01/29/2008 01:50:14
:clap: thanks Faye! I am crossposting this over at the SOTU blog.
Raine on 01/29/2008 01:50:14
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine: So wait, the immunity Failed?
Velveeta, I just turned on the span, can you fill me in on what happened?
Here's the word I just got from CREDO (formerly Working Assets):
Update on Illegal Wiretapping and Retroactive Immunity
Thanks to your actions, we've been successful in preventing the Senate from passing a wiretapping bill that grants retroactive immunity to AT&T and Verizon.
Just a little while ago, the Senate rejected attempts to rush this bill to passage, keeping alive our campaign to remove the immunity provisions. But while we've won the battle today, what happens later this week will determine whether the Senate will do the bidding of the White House or stand up for the Constitution. Tonight, if you watch Mr. Bush in his last State of the Union speech, be prepared to hear the fruits of your labors described as helping the terrorists -- but you know better.
Action Still Needed to Block Retroactive Immunity
The privacy-invading "Protect America Act" expires on February 1st. In coming days, the Senate will debate a series of amendments to the wiretapping legislation -- some good, some bad, but all of them vitally important when it comes to preserving our Constitution and upholding the rule of law. Here's what you can do.
The Senators listed below have been identified as swing votes on upcoming wiretapping amendments. If you have friends or family in the states below, please forward this email and ask that they contact their senators to oppose retroactive immunity, sweeping new powers for the Bush administration, and any new legislation that violates the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Arizona -- John McCain, (202) 224-2235
Arkansas -- Blanche Lincoln, (202) 224-4843; Mark Pryor, (202) 224-2353
California -- Dianne Feinstein, (202) 224-3841
Colorado -- Ken Salazar, (202) 224-5852
Connecticut -- Joe Lieberman, (202) 224-4041
Delaware -- Thomas Carper, (202) 224-2441
Florida -- Bill Nelson, (202) 224-5274
Georgia -- Saxby Chambliss, (202) 224-3521
Hawaii -- Daniel Inouye, (202) 224-3934
Illinois -- Barack Obama, (202) 224-2854
Indiana -- Evan Bayh, (202) 224-5623
Louisiana -- Mary Landrieu, (202)224-5824
Maine -- Olympia Snowe, (202) 224-5344 and Susan Collins, (202) 224-2523
Maryland -- Barbara Mikulski, (202) 224-4654
Michigan -- Debbie Stabenow, (202) 224-4822
Minnesota -- Norm Coleman, (202) 224-5641
Missouri -- Claire McCaskill, (202) 224-6154
Nebraska -- Ben Nelson, (202) 224-6551
New Hampshire -- John Sununu, (202) 224-2841
New York -- Hillary Clinton, (202) 224-4451
North Carolina -- Elizabeth Dole, (202) 224-6342
Oregon -- Gordon Smith, (202) 224-3753
Pennsylvania -- Arlen Specter, (202) 224-4254
South Carolina -- Lindsey Graham, (202) 224-5972
South Dakota -- Tim Johnson, (202) 224-5842
Virginia -- John Warner, (202) 224-2023
West Virginia -- Robert Byrd, (202) 224-3954
Wisconsin -- Herb Kohl, (202) 224-5653
Thank you for working to build a better world.
Michael Kieschnick, President and Co-Founder
CREDO Mobile