About Us
Mission Statement
Rules of Conduct
 
Name:
Pswd:
Remember Me
Register
 

Hummm, not Vrooom
Author: BobR    Date: 03/21/2013 12:26:17

 
We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Nature's inexhaustible sources of energy — sun, wind and tide. ...
I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that.
- Thomas Edison speaking with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone in 1931


It's often forgotten that the first "horseless carriages" weren't gasoline powered. Most early cars were either electric or had steam engines. They were often quite beautiful and luxurious - we saw this one in the DC St. Patrick's Day festival this year:

http://www.fourfreedomsblog.com/uploads/ElectricCar1.JPG


It glided by, quiet as a whisper.

Electric cars dominated at the beginning of the 20th century, but began to fade due to the one factor that has plagued them to the very present: their range. The electric car manufacturers tried to overcome this with what I consider to be a brilliantly simple concept: battery exchanges. The idea is that you would pull into the station, they swap out your nearly dead battery for a charged one, and off you go.

In those days, it was likely a clumsy effort to swap out the batteries, but I am guessing the variety was not impossible to manage for the stations. These days, the opposite is likely true. If something like this could be put into place, it would require car manufacturers to standardize on a minimum of physical battery configurations, and make them quick and easy to swap out (with easy removal and connection a must). If that seems impossible, remember that cars have standardized on 12VDC, on a handful of specific battery sizes and terminal types and positions, and on a standard cigarette lighter socket.

Yes, the batteries for the modern electric car are bigger, heavier, and positioned in various locations in various vehicles, but it would be in car manufacturers' best interests if they got away from proprietary batteries and made them more of a commodity. It would require them to get together and hash out a standard (and the government could help with that), but it would open up a lot of possibilities and make electric cars more appealing.

In the meantime, though, being able to go the same distance as a tankful of gas, and being able to charge quickly are the Holy Grails of electric car technology. Tesla Motors has nailed down the distance issue, and is making inroads on the charging issue:
While driving a Model S with the biggest available battery pack — 85 kilowatt-hours — on a restrained run through Northern California wine country, I was able to wring 300.1 miles from a single charge. The E.P.A.’s rating for equivalent gasoline miles per gallon is 88 m.p.g.e. in town and 90 on the highway, with a 265-mile range.

On a more enthusiastic romp from my home base here to Santa Cruz and back, I sampled what the 362-horsepower electric drivetrain was designed to do: bolt. Tesla says the car can zip from zero to 60 in 5.6 seconds and tops out at 125 miles per hour, but it was the silent, near-instantaneous bursts from 35 to 65 along the Pacific on California Highway 1 that best demonstrated the S’s otherworldly quality.

I managed to make that 207-mile round-trip with about 25 miles of battery charge remaining when I pulled into my driveway. I never gave a second’s thought to range, batteries or kilowatt-hours. I just hauled amps. It’s probably best for my driving record that I didn’t test the performance version of the Model S, which raises the ante to 416 horsepower — and a 4.4-second dash from zero to 60 m.p.h.

It doesn't hurt that the car is gorgeous:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/09/30/automobiles/sub30WHEE/sub30WHEE-articleLarge.jpg


What DOES hurt is the price tag: $80-100K They have tried to address the charging issue with dedicated high-amperage charging stations:
The Model S’s charging capability also figuratively cranks up to 11. With 50-amp service from a 240-volt outlet, I added back about 30 miles of driving for every hour of home charging. Highway fill-ups are even quicker for Model S owners using one of the Tesla Supercharger stations in the network announced last week.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/09/30/automobiles/autoreviews/30tesla-slides-slide-WZ2J/30tesla-slides-slide-WZ2J-slide.jpg


That's a little short on details, but it seems like an impossibility for a car company like Tesla to scale that up nationwide. It's also still likely to be impractical for a cross-country (or even cross-state) trip.

It seems like the timing is right, though. Hot on their heels is a new startup headed by former Lotus execs called Detroit Electric:
After a few years of boom and bust, the electric car market has lately settled into a rut, as established automakers try to meet regulatory goals mostly with a few everyday models converted to electric power rather than designing all-new electric cars, leaving Tesla as the only independent, high-volume EV builder. Here's the first attempt to shake up that stasis, the launch of a start-up that will revive the century-old name of Detroit Electric cars — with a car that on paper looks much like a Tesla Roadster.

The new Detroit Electric company revealed today after years of fund-raising and stealth engineering it would reveal its first model next month, a two-seat all-electric sports car that would be a harbinger of future models. The company will not just take Detroit as a brand but base its headquarters in the city, vowing to generate 180 jobs and open a Michigan plant that can build 2,500 vehicles a year.

One hopes the product will cost less than the Tesla. One also hopes that they enjoy a better fate than the EV1. That car was unceremoniously killed by unknown forces, even though it was popular with those who leased them. There is speculation that the oil companies were behind its demise. Oil has indeed been "black gold" for a number of America's richest, including the Rockefellers, the Gettys, and the Mellons. Grand homes in Newport, RI, and other areas around the country are testaments to the riches to be had from oil. The greedy lying bastards of today are just as married to the 20th century enery technology that Edison eschewed 80 years ago, and the greatest inhibitors to adopting electric as the new (returning) standard for automobiles.

It's way past time to let go of this usurper to the American energy technology and return to our roots. Electricity doesn't spill and foul waterways, it doesn't put carbon dioxide into the air, and it isn't cancer causing. We get so much more free energy from the sun every day than we can possibly use - we just need to convert it to electricity. That's the sticking point for the oil companies, though, isn't it? It's available for everyone to use. Unless they can figure out how to make a profit with it, then they will be against it.

This time, though, we know their game. This time people are ready for a change. This time it's time for some follow-through.
 

76 comments (Latest Comment: 03/21/2013 21:24:53 by Mondobubba)
   Perma Link

Share This!

Furl it!
Spurl
NewsVine
Reddit
Technorati

Add a Comment

Please login to add a comment...


Comments:

Order comments Newest to Oldest  Refresh Comments

Comment by BobR on 03/21/2013 12:30:39
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIVIN!!




Comment by wickedpam on 03/21/2013 12:57:57
Morning


Those Tesla's are beautiful cars too bad they are so expensive.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/21/2013 12:59:58
Happy Birthday Liv!!!!!!!






Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 13:14:33
good morning!

Really amazing blog, Bob.

Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 13:24:20


Happy Birthday Liv!


Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/21/2013 13:31:32
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LIV!!!!



Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/21/2013 13:40:44
BobR, thanks for a great blog. Indeed, I think we have to look at the automobile industry and the fossil fuel industry.

At 10 AM Eastern, on Nicole Sandler's show on RadioorNot.com, she will interview former Congressman Bob Ney who is now with Talk Radio News. He recently wrote a book on his Congressional career and how it ended.

One hour later, Nicole Sandler will interview singer Michelle Shocked and ask what went on in that performance that gained her such notoriety this week. This is the singer's first interview since she made anti-gay comments.

Comment by TriSec on 03/21/2013 13:48:17
The Stanley Steamers used to be made right here in Waltham. There is a small collection of operational ones scattered about New England.

Collings Foundation owns one, and on Father's Day weekend they stage the "great race", vintage cars against equally vintage airplanes. The year I saw it, the Stanley beat the pants off a Stearman from a standing start.

Battery Exchange would solve a whole host of problems, I would think. If industries can standardive CD formats, propane fittings, tire sizes, nuts, bolts, and who knows what else...batteries can be done. I bet they could even make a buck or two at it.

But, until that money gets channeled into the GOP's pockets somehow, I'd say forget about it. You can't legislate stuff like that; it's anti-business!


Comment by Scoopster on 03/21/2013 13:48:41
Quote by Will in Chicago:
BobR, thanks for a great blog. Indeed, I think we have to look at the automobile industry and the fossil fuel industry.

At 10 AM Eastern, on Nicole Sandler's show on RadioorNot.com, she will interview former Congressman Bob Ney who is now with Talk Radio News. He recently wrote a book on his Congressional career and how it handed.

One hour later, Nicole Sandler will interview singer Michelle Shocked and ask what went on in that performance that gained her such notoriety this week. This is the singer's first interview since she made anti-gay comments.

Oh my.. this is gonna be interesting! I just might check that out.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/21/2013 13:50:18
btw.. Morning all

and HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIV!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 13:53:07
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning


Those Tesla's are beautiful cars too bad they are so expensive.



Yep. Beautiful rich dude/dudette playthings

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 13:55:53
Liv, live it up it's your birthday!



But don't end up like this:

Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 13:56:45
Chuck Todd is an idiot, and he proved what an idiot he is on a global scale yesterday.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:05:40
Quote by Raine:
Chuck Todd is an idiot, and he proved what an idiot he is on a global scale yesterday.



What did the anthropomorphic beaver do now? :cues sound bite: "Oh, Chuckers! :Chuckers looks into camera with hangdog expression on his face: :canned laughter:

Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 14:07:53
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:14:36
Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 14:14:41
Chuck Todd is an idiot -- the video.

I case it doesn't show up here...


Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:16:22
Quote by Raine:
todd, idiot.



"Oh, CHUKERS!

What an ieediot! He is a bloated sack of protoplasm with a bad goatee.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:17:13
Quote by Raine:
Chuck Todd is an idiot -- the video.

I case it doesn't show up here...



The express on PM & POTUS' faces are priceless

Comment by BobR on 03/21/2013 14:22:02
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
todd, idiot.



"Oh, CHUKERS!

What an ieediot! He is a bloated sack of protoplasm with a bad goatee.



Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 14:25:19
to Bob and Mondo...

He's such an ass...

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:32:21
Quote by Raine:
to Bob and Mondo...

He's such an ass...



Chuck Todd embarrassing America since 2001!

Comment by TriSec on 03/21/2013 14:45:44
Say, I just realized....my troop is headed up to the Scout Camp of my youth this summer. Which means I get to dust off the now legendary "Wall of Mosquitoes" story from this camp.

Although the "Lake of Fire" and the "Wall of Fire" incidents happened at a different camp, we'll probably tell those this summer, too.

I've probably got the "Wilderness Survival Fuel/Air Explosion" story to tell, too. (Actually, that one was more a BLEVE.)

Scouting - Fun for All! (Who needs limbs, anyway?) Sorry, sorry.





Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:46:21
Chuck Todd, he puts the "lame" in lamestream media!

Comment by Raine on 03/21/2013 14:52:01
From outgoing Senator Chambliss --


Take Sen. Saxby Chambliss. When asked if his views had changed on gay marriage, the Georgia Republican quipped: “I’m not gay. So I’m not going to marry one.”


Chuck Todd made more sense than this.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:58:38
Comment by wickedpam on 03/21/2013 14:58:51
hmm they could all it iPAL

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 14:59:51
Quote by Raine:
From outgoing Senator Chambliss --


Take Sen. Saxby Chambliss. When asked if his views had changed on gay marriage, the Georgia Republican quipped: “I’m not gay. So I’m not going to marry one.”


Chuck Todd made more sense than this.


Zaxby, WTF? Are you trying to sound like The Queen of Word Salad?


Comment by BobR on 03/21/2013 15:02:04
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
From outgoing Senator Chambliss --

Take Sen. Saxby Chambliss. When asked if his views had changed on gay marriage, the Georgia Republican quipped: “I’m not gay. So I’m not going to marry one.”


Chuck Todd made more sense than this.


Zaxby, WTF? Are you trying to sound like The Queen of Word Salad?

When Colbert says nonsensical stuff like that, it's funny. When a sitting Senator does - not so much.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:03:47
Attention! Ryan Gosling is taking a break from acting! Let that digest and then go back to your business. If you didn't notice, yes this is

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:04:58
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
From outgoing Senator Chambliss --

Take Sen. Saxby Chambliss. When asked if his views had changed on gay marriage, the Georgia Republican quipped: “I’m not gay. So I’m not going to marry one.”


Chuck Todd made more sense than this.


Zaxby, WTF? Are you trying to sound like The Queen of Word Salad?

When Colbert says nonsensical stuff like that, it's funny. When a sitting Senator does - not so much.


You and Raine had him as a senator, he is a bit of thicky isn't he? Couple bricks shy of a load? Dumb as pound of wet leather?

Comment by wickedpam on 03/21/2013 15:07:27
Quote by Mondobubba:
Attention! Ryan Gosling is taking a break from acting! Let that digest and then go back to your business. If you didn't notice, yes this is


I really don't get the apeal of Ryan Gosling


Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:15:33
I, Mondo have seen the future of purchasing glasses and it is online! Since my vision benefits with my health insurance blow goats, I took the plunge and purchased prescription sunglasses online. My total cost for single vision, high index (read thinner) lenses with UV, anti-scratch and tinting with the frames, 51.80. For shits and giggles, I ran the cost of a pair of glasses with the progressive lenses (yes I wear bifocals, shut up) with the trimmings like the anti glare coating etc. about 80 bucks.

Zenni Optical

Comment by wickedpam on 03/21/2013 15:18:17
Quote by Mondobubba:
I, Mondo have seen the future of purchasing glasses and it is online! Since my vision benefits with my health insurance blow goats, I took the plunge and purchased prescription sunglasses online. My total cost for single vision, high index (read thinner) lenses with UV, anti-scratch and tinting with the frames, 51.80. For shits and giggles, I ran the cost of a pair of glasses with the progressive lenses (yes I wear bifocals, shut up) with the trimmings like the anti glare coating etc. about 80 bucks.

Zenni Optical


that's lens and frames?! wow! my last pair with all those bells and whistles cost me 200


Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/21/2013 15:18:59
It seems that Michelle Shocked has stood up Nicole Sandler on the interview. The singer is sending tweets and Nicole is not reading them but wants her to call in.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:21:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I, Mondo have seen the future of purchasing glasses and it is online! Since my vision benefits with my health insurance blow goats, I took the plunge and purchased prescription sunglasses online. My total cost for single vision, high index (read thinner) lenses with UV, anti-scratch and tinting with the frames, 51.80. For shits and giggles, I ran the cost of a pair of glasses with the progressive lenses (yes I wear bifocals, shut up) with the trimmings like the anti glare coating etc. about 80 bucks.

Zenni Optical


that's lens and frames?! wow! my last pair with all those bells and whistles cost me 200


The frames were a whopping 6 bucks. I went cheap on the frame since they are sunglasses.


Comment by wickedpam on 03/21/2013 15:23:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I, Mondo have seen the future of purchasing glasses and it is online! Since my vision benefits with my health insurance blow goats, I took the plunge and purchased prescription sunglasses online. My total cost for single vision, high index (read thinner) lenses with UV, anti-scratch and tinting with the frames, 51.80. For shits and giggles, I ran the cost of a pair of glasses with the progressive lenses (yes I wear bifocals, shut up) with the trimmings like the anti glare coating etc. about 80 bucks.

Zenni Optical


that's lens and frames?! wow! my last pair with all those bells and whistles cost me 200


The frames were a whopping 6 bucks. I went cheap on the frame since they are sunglasses.



nice - thinking about getting a back up pair from Costco

Comment by TriSec on 03/21/2013 15:24:28
Quote by Mondobubba:
I, Mondo have seen the future of purchasing glasses and it is online! Since my vision benefits with my health insurance blow goats, I took the plunge and purchased prescription sunglasses online. My total cost for single vision, high index (read thinner) lenses with UV, anti-scratch and tinting with the frames, 51.80. For shits and giggles, I ran the cost of a pair of glasses with the progressive lenses (yes I wear bifocals, shut up) with the trimmings like the anti glare coating etc. about 80 bucks.

Zenni Optical



* Eyes fall out of head *

I think I might be checking this out later tonight. (I've been sitting on a scrip for a while!)

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/21/2013 15:34:05
Michelle Shocked came on in the last half hour, listening.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:39:38
The one thing you will need, is your PD measurement, that is the distance tween your pupils. Don't try to guess, have professional do it. My advice try some frames on, check the temple bits for the width and the length of the frame and the temples.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:41:07
Downside with Zenni. If you return the glasses, you will only get 1/2 back. Second it take about two weeks for you to get the glasses.

Comment by livingonli on 03/21/2013 15:51:54
Good morning, folks. Took today off for my birthday since I have to work holidays I might as well make my own.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 15:59:44
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. Took today off for my birthday since I have to work holidays I might as well make my own.



I like the way you are thinking, Liv.

Comment by TriSec on 03/21/2013 16:09:27
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 16:12:01
One more thing about eyeglasses. Apparently the markups on frames and lenses are like those on women's wear, you know really 'uge.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/21/2013 16:21:47
Quote by TriSec:
Murphys Dropkick a Nazi!




As he should.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/21/2013 16:57:51
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. Took today off for my birthday since I have to work holidays I might as well make my own.


Whhheeeeeee

Happy Birthday Liv



Comment by trojanrabbit on 03/21/2013 17:04:09
As for me, this is day 2 home sick. Getting very little sleep, was up at 1AM Wednesday, this morning I made it to 2AM. My cold gets me congested and I have to get up. Spent a good part of this morning walking through my test procedure with a co-worker back in Burlington. Haven't heard anything back so I guess no news is good news.