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Author: TriSec    Date: 09/10/2013 10:26:04

Good Morning.

Today is our 4,356th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,266
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,102

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 471, 264, 650, 000 .00


As you know, I collect stories all week long for this particular blog....from time to time, my cache just gets a bit out of control, so we're diving right in.



We'll start with record keeping. If you have elder relatives and have been interested in their service history, then you know about the devastating National Archive fire in 1973. This wiped out a significant portion of WWII records.

No such event has happened since then, instead we just lose the paperwork.


The Army has conceded a significant loss of records documenting battlefield action and other operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and has launched a global search to recover and consolidate field records from the wars.

In an order to all commands and a separate letter to leaders of the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee, Army Secretary John McHugh said the service also is taking immediate steps to clarify responsibility for wartime record keeping.

The moves follow inquiries from the committee’s leaders after a ProPublica and Seattle Times investigation last year reported that dozens of Army and National Guard units had lost or failed to keep required field records, in some cases impeding the ability of veterans to obtain disability benefits. The problem primarily affected the Army but also extended to U.S. Central Command in Iraq.

McHugh, in his letter to committee leaders, said that while the Army kept some of the required records, “we acknowledge that gaps exist.”


Of course, some veterans with good paperwork are still having issues with their service. There's a little-known loophole regarding the Vietnam war that is keeping veterans from receiving additional benefits that they should be entitled to. Say for instance, you were in the Navy in those days, but never actually set foot in Vietnam. The VA treats you differently.


CHICAGO — If Greg Fuller had ever, even for just a few minutes, set foot on Vietnamese soil during the time he spent serving in the Vietnam War, he'd be eligible to collect thousands of dollars each year in disability payments.

Diagnosed in 2005 with prostate cancer, Fuller is among the untold number of Vietnam veterans who have illnesses that have been linked to Agent Orange, an herbicide that the U.S. military sprayed over the Vietnamese jungle to expose enemy forces and destroy food crops.

But as a member of the so-called Blue Water Navy — sailors who served aboard ships that operated off the shore of Vietnam — Fuller has received only denial letters from the Department of Veterans Affairs, which maintains that the cancer is not connected to his service in the war because his boots never touched land.

The VA says Blue Water Navy veterans aren't eligible because the herbicide was sprayed over land. Veterans and their advocates say the herbicide ran off into the South China Sea, contaminating the water that the Navy distilled for drinking and powering the ships' boilers.


Now think for a moment that you're an endangered bird of some sort. You'd think the last place you want to be is where the military is firing heavy artillery or dropping bombs. But surprisingly enough, it turns out that military ranges don't have the bird's biggest enemies on it - people. Some of them are thriving.


SAN CLEMENTE ISLAND, CALIF. — The sign leaves no doubt about the risk in entering the steep seaside hills that North America’s rarest bird calls home: “Danger. Boom. Explosives. Unexploded Ordnance and Laser Range in Use. Keep Out.”

Despite the weekly explosions that rock this Navy-owned island off the Southern California coast, the San Clemente Island loggerhead shrike has been rebounding from the brink of extinction, even on the military’s only ship-to-shore bombardment range.

The black, gray and white songbird — which has gone from a low of 13 in the 1990s to 140 today — is among scores of endangered species thriving on military lands during the past decade.

For many, it’s a surprising contrast, with troops preparing for war, yet taking precautions to not disturb animals such as the red-cockaded woodpecker and thumb-size Pacific pocket mouse. But military officials downplay the relationship, saying they’re concerned primarily with national security.


We finally reach the war zone with our last story today...Ever wonder what it would be like to have your village destroyed by the US military? Like so many other places in wartime, a hamlet in Afghanistan was the most important place in the world for a few days, got destroyed, and both sides moved on. It never recovered.


TAROK KOLACHE, Afghanistan — It took 50,000 pounds of American explosives to level Niaz Mohammad’s village.

The village had become a Taliban stronghold, a virtual factory for bombs that killed and maimed American soldiers. At the height of the U.S. offensive in late 2010, commanders chose what they considered their best option: They approved an airstrike that flattened all the buildings in town, more than 40, including Mohammad’s home. Though no civilians were killed, the bombardment quickly became one of the most controversial attacks of the war in Afghanistan.

Three years later, the village is a sandy ruin, symbolizing the gains and losses of America’s longest war. A handful of villagers, among them Mohammad, have trickled back. The U.S. Army withdrew this summer from the valley where Tarok Kolache is located. The Taliban has mostly fled to other districts.

Relative peace came to Tarok Kolache, but only after it was demolished.


But wait, there's more! We'll now head into bonus-click territory:

Nato says "no plans to withdraw from Afghanistan"

In av-dork news, the Air Force discovers what geese already knew.

Whew.
 

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Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 12:16:39
good Morning!

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 12:20:11

#BREAKING: Officials say Syria has accepted Russia's proposal to place its chemical weapons under international control.

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said the government quickly agreed to the proposal to "derail the U.S. aggression."

Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 12:54:39
Morning

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 12:59:28
Hola.


Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 13:11:00
This entire Syria thing is somewhat reminiscent of the Cuban missile crisis.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 13:21:05
And although it appears we are not getting involved with Syria, I am still deeply concerned about the people there.

if german intel is correct and Assad (personally) didn't give orders that those weapons be used on its people, that indicates that he is NOT in charge and the militias are.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 13:26:50
Quote by Raine:
This entire Syria thing is somewhat reminiscent of the Cuban missile crisis.



Without the threat of world ending nuclear war.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 13:31:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
This entire Syria thing is somewhat reminiscent of the Cuban missile crisis.



Without the threat of world ending nuclear war.
Well, obviously. I think the maneuvering is similar.


Comment by velveeta jones on 09/10/2013 13:35:47
Morning!
Once again, it seems our CIC is playing Chess instead of W.'s game of checkers.
Wow.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 13:38:58
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
This entire Syria thing is somewhat reminiscent of the Cuban missile crisis.



Without the threat of world ending nuclear war.
Well, obviously. I think the maneuvering is similar.


I kid, because I love. Yeah he seems to be thinking about 4 moves ahead of everybody else.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2013 13:41:19
Mornin' all..

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 13:43:37
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
This entire Syria thing is somewhat reminiscent of the Cuban missile crisis.



Without the threat of world ending nuclear war.
Well, obviously. I think the maneuvering is similar.


I kid, because I love. Yeah he seems to be thinking about 4 moves ahead of everybody else.
I suspect that the CMC would have been covered hair on fire if it were to happen today. We had a much different media back then.

This, however is troubling.



Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 13:45:31
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning!
Once again, it seems our CIC is playing Chess instead of W.'s game of checkers.
Wow.
I doubt this was the way he wanted it to play out, but I also suspect this was an option that he had in mind.

He's a very good politician and I think many facets of politics happened here --


Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2013 14:05:30
Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 14:10:36
It's really stupid.


Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 14:13:30



Knew it wouldn't be long before we turned it into a sales holiday.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 14:16:25
Remember when John McCain wanted to arm the rebels?

The Obama administration has been reluctant to provide weapons to the disparate opposition, fearing that they will fall into the wrong hands in a volatile region. McCain said he discussed what types of weapons the rebels need and whether they could ensure their control.

"I'm confident that they could get the weapons into the right hands and there's no doubt that they need some kind of capability to reverse the battlefield situation, which right now is in favor of Assad," McCain said.
This is another case where President Obama was correct.

The rebel factions there are fractured. It's not as simple as McCain wants it to be. HE, after all DID hang out with these guys.




Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 14:16:25



That is in really bad taste.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 14:19:10
Quote by Raine:
Remember when John McCain wanted to arm the rebels?

The Obama administration has been reluctant to provide weapons to the disparate opposition, fearing that they will fall into the wrong hands in a volatile region. McCain said he discussed what types of weapons the rebels need and whether they could ensure their control.

"I'm confident that they could get the weapons into the right hands and there's no doubt that they need some kind of capability to reverse the battlefield situation, which right now is in favor of Assad," McCain said.
This is another case where President Obama was correct.

The rebel factions there are fractured. It's not as simple as McCain wants it to be. HE, after all DID hang out with these guys.




I so wanted to say something snarky about old guys like McCain want things simple, but I opted for snide instead.

Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2013 14:24:09
Ya know, if profesional Scouting paid more, I would totally leave healthcare.

So says the Waltham City Scouting Coordinator, a position I totally just invented for myself. Alas, volunteer.



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 14:26:22
Quote by TriSec:
Ya know, if profesional Scouting paid more, I would totally leave healthcare.

So says the Waltham City Scouting Coordinator, a position I totally just invented for myself. Alas, volunteer.




I'm sure if you moved to Texas, became a homophobic born-again Christian you could get a job at the BSA national HQ.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 14:28:27
Gonna watch this later today.

(the comments are very enlighteninh)

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 14:30:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Remember when John McCain wanted to arm the rebels?

The Obama administration has been reluctant to provide weapons to the disparate opposition, fearing that they will fall into the wrong hands in a volatile region. McCain said he discussed what types of weapons the rebels need and whether they could ensure their control.

"I'm confident that they could get the weapons into the right hands and there's no doubt that they need some kind of capability to reverse the battlefield situation, which right now is in favor of Assad," McCain said.
This is another case where President Obama was correct.

The rebel factions there are fractured. It's not as simple as McCain wants it to be. HE, after all DID hang out with these guys.




I so wanted to say something snarky about old guys like McCain want things simple, but I opted for snide instead.
I still don;t understand why this man is taken seriously with regards to foreign policy. When was the last time he was right?


Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 14:33:34
Quote by Raine:
Gonna watch this later today.

(the comments are very enlighteninh)

Jane Corbin also traveled to Turkey to meet one particular defector from the Syrian army, a soldier, who explained how armed gangs — the shabia or “ghosts” — were employed as agent provocateurs and hired killers, randomly assassinating people while pretending that they were part of anti-government forces. -




Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 14:39:23
Charlie Pierce just made me snort laugh

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 14:45:36
Quote by wickedpam:
Charlie Pierce just made me snort laugh



Would that a lort or snaugh? I'm torn, which do you prefer?

Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 14:56:51
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Charlie Pierce just made me snort laugh



Would that a lort or snaugh? I'm torn, which do you prefer?


they sound very Suessian


Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 14:58:56
Eisenhower gave us Castro?

I never really heard that. Mondo -- Tri? Is this caller's theory supported by history?

Comment by BobR on 09/10/2013 15:04:51
greetings earthlings from the spaceship.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 15:05:17
I think it is noble and brave of Mitch McConnell to come out against striking Syria -- AFTER Syria agreed to give up the Chemical weapons to Russia.

A denfinite profile of courage.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 15:05:43
Quote by BobR:
greetings earthlings from the spaceship.
Hola!


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:05:43
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:06:59
Quote by Raine:
Eisenhower gave us Castro?

I never really heard that. Mondo -- Tri? Is this caller's theory supported by history?



If by "gave us Castro" the caller means that Castro came to power when Eisenhower was president, then yes.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/10/2013 15:07:02
Quote by BobR:
greetings earthlings from the spaceship.

Oho! What cheer, Bobber?!

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 15:09:01
Quote by Mondobubba:
"Go home, pig you're drunk!"
COW WINS!


Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 15:11:49
Quote by BobR:
greetings earthlings from the spaceship.



is it a spaceship or the Tardis?

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 15:15:35
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Eisenhower gave us Castro?

I never really heard that. Mondo -- Tri? Is this caller's theory supported by history?



If by "gave us Castro" the caller means that Castro came to power when Eisenhower was president, then yes.
The caller (not a RWNJ, BTW) was indicating that Eisenhower generally supported Castro -- almost indicating that we helped put him into power. And then, Castro turned on us. it seemed odd, I'd never heard that line of thinking before.

Mala were listening to that? Was I getting it wrong?


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:28:45
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Eisenhower gave us Castro?

I never really heard that. Mondo -- Tri? Is this caller's theory supported by history?



If by "gave us Castro" the caller means that Castro came to power when Eisenhower was president, then yes.
The caller (not a RWNJ, BTW) was indicating that Eisenhower generally supported Castro -- almost indicating that we helped put him into power. And then, Castro turned on us. it seemed odd, I'd never heard that line of thinking before.

Mala were listening to that? Was I getting it wrong?



When Castro first came to power there was a period where he was playing coy with the world, was he pro-Western or was he a commie. I don't remember enough about the la Revalucion to say if Ike supported the Cuban revolution.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:29:04
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Eisenhower gave us Castro?

I never really heard that. Mondo -- Tri? Is this caller's theory supported by history?



If by "gave us Castro" the caller means that Castro came to power when Eisenhower was president, then yes.
The caller (not a RWNJ, BTW) was indicating that Eisenhower generally supported Castro -- almost indicating that we helped put him into power. And then, Castro turned on us. it seemed odd, I'd never heard that line of thinking before.

Mala were listening to that? Was I getting it wrong?



When Castro first came to power there was a period where he was playing coy with the world, was he pro-Western or was he a commie. I don't remember enough about the la Revalucion to say if Ike supported the Cuban revolution.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 15:30:39
there's always room for Jello




Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 15:31:37
Comment by wickedpam on 09/10/2013 15:31:51
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Eisenhower gave us Castro?

I never really heard that. Mondo -- Tri? Is this caller's theory supported by history?



If by "gave us Castro" the caller means that Castro came to power when Eisenhower was president, then yes.
The caller (not a RWNJ, BTW) was indicating that Eisenhower generally supported Castro -- almost indicating that we helped put him into power. And then, Castro turned on us. it seemed odd, I'd never heard that line of thinking before.

Mala were listening to that? Was I getting it wrong?


sorry working on our seasonal promo stuff, I wasn't paying too close attention


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:36:45
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
"Go home, pig you're drunk!"
COW WINS!


Words alone can not describe how much I love the drunken feral pig story!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:39:41



Oh, that. Changing the name of Forrest High to something not named for a founder of the KKK. They put that up to a vote of the kids who go to the school (majority African-American) and they didn't want to change the name.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 15:52:27
In light of the fact there are two high schools named for rebellious traitors in this fair city (Forrest and R.E. Lee) I want to start my charter school for ex-pat Yankees. It will be called the William T. Sherman Academy.

Comment by livingonli on 09/10/2013 16:19:27
Good day, folks. Two days off in a row and a boy's night out tonight so let's see where it goes.

Comment by Raine on 09/10/2013 16:27:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
fair enough....


Oh, that. Changing the name of Forrest High to something not named for a founder of the KKK. They put that up to a vote of the kids who go to the school (majority African-American) and they didn't want to change the name.



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/10/2013 16:29:35
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
fair enough....


Oh, that. Changing the name of Forrest High to something not named for a founder of the KKK. They put that up to a vote of the kids who go to the school (majority African-American) and they didn't want to change the name.




I still think they should change the name of the damn school, it is so embarrassing.

Comment by TriSec on 09/10/2013 16:32:05
Quote by wickedpam:


sorry working on our seasonal promo stuff, I wasn't paying too close attention



"seasonal porno stuff". Clearly, I need a new prescription...