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Author: Raine    Date: 09/11/2014 12:54:00

I wrote this 3 years ago. IT was not filled with anger or disillusionment. It was a heartfelt testament to the power of overcoming pain, finding friendship and love. And here we are, 13 years after that horrible day dealing with the blowback of horrible things done in reaction to that horrible day.

There is so much I can say, and so much that I have said.

I am angry and upset that we still have this mess buzzing around us like a swarm of locusts. This monstrosity overtaking Iraq and Syria -- this monstrosity was created from the lies we were told after the day the towers came down.

Some claim this is not ours to be concerned with, others claim we need to bomb more. I have deep concerns about this group.

It was the Bush Cheney war in Iraq that caused so many people to never trust the government when it came to matters of security both national and international. Bernie Sanders says it very well at his newsletter today:
nterviewed on MSNBC after the president’s speech, Sanders cited the Bush/Cheney war in Iraq as reason to be cautious about military ventures.

The Washington Post said Sanders is among seven senators who were in the House in 2002 and voted against the Iraq war. “We were ‘strong’ and ‘tough’ under Bush and Cheney. We made the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of the United States. We don’t want to do that again,”
He supports the actions the President laid out last night.

...and so it goes, the never-ending wartime.
 

43 comments (Latest Comment: 09/12/2014 00:57:53 by TriSec)
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Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 13:09:28
Welcome to "low-level" violence.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/11/2014 13:54:55
Morning

Comment by TriSec on 09/11/2014 14:04:59
Hi all. I wore a suit today to honour my old friend (south tower survivor) but have nothing else planned. My father's generation had Pearl Harbor and war, but now these places are our allies. One wonders if the Middle East will ever go down that road.

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 14:06:59
Quote by TriSec:
Hi all. I wore a suit today to honour my old friend (south tower survivor) but have nothing else planned. My father's generation had Pearl Harbor and war, but now these places are our allies. One wonders if the Middle East will ever go down that road.
I have little hope for that.


Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 14:08:01
I can't help but post this. It gives me comfort.


Comment by wickedpam on 09/11/2014 14:08:53
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Hi all. I wore a suit today to honour my old friend (south tower survivor) but have nothing else planned. My father's generation had Pearl Harbor and war, but now these places are our allies. One wonders if the Middle East will ever go down that road.
I have little hope for that.



they've been fighting for thousands of years in that part of the world - I guess I just don't understand why

Comment by Scoopster on 09/11/2014 14:19:22
Mornin' all..

Also on this day in American Imperialism, we helped overthrow Chile's democratically elected president and replace him with a murderous army general.

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 14:22:28
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Also on this day in American Imperialism, we helped overthrow Chile's democratically elected president and replace him with a murderous army general.
Ah -- lovely.

Sometimes I actually wish we could be isolationist just long enough to get our own house in order so we can be a beacon to the world.

YOu know, close up for serious renovations with a grand re-opening.


Comment by TriSec on 09/11/2014 14:29:08
I know why. Israel. Not them specifically, but it comes down to this. Indigenous people have lived there for millenia. Out of nowhere, another group believes their God told them 'this is your promised land'. So they've been having this 'disagreement' for a while now. It's the old " my God is better than your God" argument that always seems to atract new converts, no matter what God it actually is. I almost think a new Isolationism might better serve our interests.

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 14:41:54
I swear what breaks my heart is that it seems as though this President is actually paying attention to the PDB and the warning provided by intelligence.

I am deeply concerned about a genocide. I remember marching to say out of Iraq into Darfur. IT meant nothing because the White house at the time was drooling for the war in IRaq.

and now I feel like we may very well be taking steps to prevent a possible genocide. ISIS is nasty, and I say that at a minimum.



Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 14:43:34
Little known around the nation is this guy who is really good at laying National Security stuff out. His piece from today.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/11/2014 14:52:18
Quote by TriSec:
I know why. Israel. Not them specifically, but it comes down to this. Indigenous people have lived there for millenia. Out of nowhere, another group believes their God told them 'this is your promised land'. So they've been having this 'disagreement' for a while now. It's the old " my God is better than your God" argument that always seems to atract new converts, no matter what God it actually is. I almost think a new Isolationism might better serve our interests.



But Israelis are also indigenous to that area - same as Palestinians (who are also not liked in that area) Never understood why those 2 didn't team up and work together *sigh*

Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/11/2014 15:09:10
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
I know why. Israel. Not them specifically, but it comes down to this. Indigenous people have lived there for millenia. Out of nowhere, another group believes their God told them 'this is your promised land'. So they've been having this 'disagreement' for a while now. It's the old " my God is better than your God" argument that always seems to atract new converts, no matter what God it actually is. I almost think a new Isolationism might better serve our interests.

But Israelis are also indigenous to that area - same as Palestinians (who are also not liked in that area) Never understood why those 2 didn't team up and work together *sigh*

The rivalries are deep, and there are harms done by both sides. The Palestinians can point to the Nakba and the Occupation. Israelis can point to some of the actions of the Arabs, such as attacks on civilians. I have a friend whose father's family lived in Egypt for 200 years before being expelled -- as they are Jewish. Part of that family moved to Chicago, while other parts are in Israel and elsewhere.

There are people working for peace, but there are politicians and others who benefit from continuing conflicts.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 15:21:06
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Also on this day in American Imperialism, we helped overthrow Chile's democratically elected president and replace him with a murderous army general.



Thanks, there Doug Downer! :mumbles freakingscoopbeingevenabiggerdownwer:

Comment by wickedpam on 09/11/2014 15:27:48
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
I know why. Israel. Not them specifically, but it comes down to this. Indigenous people have lived there for millenia. Out of nowhere, another group believes their God told them 'this is your promised land'. So they've been having this 'disagreement' for a while now. It's the old " my God is better than your God" argument that always seems to atract new converts, no matter what God it actually is. I almost think a new Isolationism might better serve our interests.

But Israelis are also indigenous to that area - same as Palestinians (who are also not liked in that area) Never understood why those 2 didn't team up and work together *sigh*

The rivalries are deep, and there are harms done by both sides. The Palestinians can point to the Nakba and the Occupation. Israelis can point to some of the actions of the Arabs, such as attacks on civilians. I have a friend whose father's family lived in Egypt for 200 years before being expelled -- as they are Jewish. Part of that family moved to Chicago, while other parts are in Israel and elsewhere.

There are people working for peace, but there are politicians and others who benefit from continuing conflicts.


I don't know, its so far over my head I'm completely missing things.


Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 15:41:11
You know what, I think it is high time to start calling these people extremists.

Why you ask?here is why

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 15:45:04
Quote by Raine:
You know what, I think it is high time to start calling these people extremists.

Why you ask?here is why



http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5d/f8/40/5df84009e3bbae199bf3fab251b59c4d.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 09/11/2014 15:59:29
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Also on this day in American Imperialism, we helped overthrow Chile's democratically elected president and replace him with a murderous army general.

Thanks, there Doug Downer! :mumbles freakingscoopbeingevenabiggerdownwer:



Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 16:01:15
YEs, because Obama is Just like Bush… WAIT…


Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 16:03:54
Quote by Raine:
YEs, because Obama is Just like Bush… WAIT…
My point being:

Obama is acting more in line with the reasons that Clinton decided to act in Kosovo.


Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 16:16:20
Oh hey, Somalia too. No one ever wants to talk about this either.

I have no apologies in saying that as much as I have hated military conflicts, I still believe Dems have always been on the right sight of this misery.

We are not there to fluff up the MIC. Obama is a Dem. Clinton was as well… Jimmy Carter was probably the most peaceful President we have ever had.



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 16:17:05
I need to vent for moment.

https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1390395759/8205851.gif



Thanks for letting me share. Better now.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/11/2014 16:30:24
A friend of mine just linked me this article.

Whoever wrote and edited this needs to be severely disciplined. Subject matter is fine, but the way the article is written is horrid. Terrible reporting.

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 16:33:00
Quote by Scoopster:
A friend of mine just linked me this article.

Whoever wrote and edited this needs to be severely disciplined. Subject matter is fine, but the way the article is written is horrid. Terrible reporting.
The title alone for gawks sake… (going to read the article)

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 16:37:13
Quote by Raine:
Oh hey, Somalia too. No one ever wants to talk about this either.

I have no apologies in saying that as much as I have hated military conflicts, I still believe Dems have always been on the right sight of this misery.

We are not there to fluff up the MIC. Obama is a Dem. Clinton was as well… Jimmy Carter was probably the most peaceful President we have ever had.

Oh hey… remember this?

Somalis Pre Clinton. Bush said he hoped to get forces out of Somalia before he left the White house…. Hmm.


Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 16:41:06
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Oh hey, Somalia too. No one ever wants to talk about this either.

I have no apologies in saying that as much as I have hated military conflicts, I still believe Dems have always been on the right sight of this misery.

We are not there to fluff up the MIC. Obama is a Dem. Clinton was as well… Jimmy Carter was probably the most peaceful President we have ever had.

Oh hey… remember this?

Somalis Pre Clinton. Bush said he hoped to get forces out of Somalia before he left the White house…. Hmm.
How did that work out Secretary Cheney???

Comment by Scoopster on 09/11/2014 17:05:06
Comment by BobR on 09/11/2014 17:30:44

OMG - that is AWESOME. I sure hope the Daily Show or Rachel pick it up and run with it

Comment by livingonli on 09/11/2014 17:35:10
It's another one of those days.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 18:25:20



This is my favorite story of the week!

Word is that Bristol has a particularly strong right hook, which she employed repeatedly, and it's something to hear when Sarah screams, "Don't you know who I am!"





Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 18:37:07
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/11/2014 18:37:22
Quote by Mondobubba:



This is my favorite story of the week!

Word is that Bristol has a particularly strong right hook, which she employed repeatedly, and it's something to hear when Sarah screams, "Don't you know who I am!"






WE WANT THUNDERDOME!!!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 18:40:58
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:



This is my favorite story of the week!

Word is that Bristol has a particularly strong right hook, which she employed repeatedly, and it's something to hear when Sarah screams, "Don't you know who I am!"






WE WANT THUNDERDOME!!!!







Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 19:18:21
“No, it’s what happens when the former First Family of Alaska comes knocking. As people were leaving in a cab, Track was seen on the street, shirtless, flipping people off, with Sarah right behind him, and Todd somewhere in the foreground, tending to his bloody nose,” she concluded.

It’s difficult to say how much of this is true, based as it is on what witnesses claim to have seen and heard.

In an update posted Thursday, Griffin said she spoke to homeowner Chris Olds, who confirmed that the melee took place in his residence and that he was repeatedly struck by Bristol Palin.

Anchorage Police confirmed to Griffin that at least 20 people were involved in the fight, but reports differ as to who started the brawl and why.
OMG.




Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 19:26:14
Quote by Raine:
“No, it’s what happens when the former First Family of Alaska comes knocking. As people were leaving in a cab, Track was seen on the street, shirtless, flipping people off, with Sarah right behind him, and Todd somewhere in the foreground, tending to his bloody nose,” she concluded.

It’s difficult to say how much of this is true, based as it is on what witnesses claim to have seen and heard.

In an update posted Thursday, Griffin said she spoke to homeowner Chris Olds, who confirmed that the melee took place in his residence and that he was repeatedly struck by Bristol Palin.

Anchorage Police confirmed to Griffin that at least 20 people were involved in the fight, but reports differ as to who started the brawl and why.
OMG.





Entitled white trash is the most entertaining kind!


Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 19:34:38
I cannot believe there are no pictures.


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 19:46:47
Quote by Raine:
I cannot believe there are no pictures.



Oh I am sure there will be some grainy cell phone pictures and video popping up very soon. I for one, will be waiting with baited breath.


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/11/2014 20:08:55
Wow that was unnerving. The guy who sits across the aisle from me had a siezure.





Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 20:33:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow that was unnerving. The guy who sits across the aisle from me had a siezure.




EEp. Is he alright?

Comment by BobR on 09/11/2014 20:46:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
“No, it’s what happens when the former First Family of Alaska comes knocking. As people were leaving in a cab, Track was seen on the street, shirtless, flipping people off, with Sarah right behind him, and Todd somewhere in the foreground, tending to his bloody nose,” she concluded.

It’s difficult to say how much of this is true, based as it is on what witnesses claim to have seen and heard.

In an update posted Thursday, Griffin said she spoke to homeowner Chris Olds, who confirmed that the melee took place in his residence and that he was repeatedly struck by Bristol Palin.

Anchorage Police confirmed to Griffin that at least 20 people were involved in the fight, but reports differ as to who started the brawl and why.
OMG.





Entitled white trash is the most entertaining kind!

You can take the White Trash out of the tundra, but...

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 20:47:27
You know, I never reneged on my bet that Sarah would pose nude. I did predict she would get a reality TV show after she and McCain lost the election…. I was flabbergasted when that prediction came true… SO I have an announcement:

I will alter this prediction: She may not purposefully pose nude. I believe she will be caught in a *HAYL YEA git sum* moment in the next two years.

Comment by Raine on 09/11/2014 21:00:18
I love this woman:

Comment by TriSec on 09/12/2014 00:57:53
I feel like convening a court of Oyer and Terminer. I promise not to press anyone present to death with large rocks.



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