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Never Forget? We Forgot.
Author: Raine    Date: 08/14/2017 13:01:50

It's been said that when Nazis are framed as just people with differing political views, then we are normalizing genocide.

Every day, we move farther away from the horror of World War Two and the Holocaust. Every day a Holocaust survivor passes away. Every Day a WW2 Vet dies.

What happened in Charlotte can happen in any city or town in America, as each day passes we move farther away from the lesson's that Nazi Germany and WW2 told us: "Never Forget'

It seems we are forgetting. I can't help but wonder how many of those people marching under white terrorism banners had a relative who fought in WW2. I can't help but think about how many surviving veterans feel watching the confederate flag waving among swastikas and other White Nationalist symbols. What is amazing to me is that the Confederate flag was almost, almost, the most benign symbol displayed over the weekend. People will still try to claim that this was about southern heritage.

"It's No Longer About Southern Heritage. In Fact, It Never Was."
We can have an endless debate over "states' rights" as the root of the Civil War; I find it pointless because it is nothing more than a convenient narrative to avoid the truth. These men were fighting against the notion that all men and women—not just the white men in power, and the women who stood beside them—deserve the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for which our forefathers fought in the late 18th century. They wanted to continue the practice of enslaving black men and women, of protecting whiteness. I will never see a Confederate flag or monument and separate it from a history of white supremacy, no matter how often I was instructed by our biased history lessons to ignore it. (snip)

To my fellow Virginians and Southerners who have stood so steadfast in their refusal to see our Confederate monuments for what they are, I ask you: What does this say about our heritage? These men and women are not protesting the elimination of Southern culture and history, but rather reacting to their own deluded notions that white people are losing control of our country. When a group of men and women shout out "Jew will not replace us" in front of a statue of Robert E. Lee, what does that say about your symbol of Southern heritage? When these people brandish Nazi symbols and scream "fuck you faggots" in front of your idol, what does it say about a historical figure who supposedly stood up against a tyrannical government to protect his land?

The South lost the war. Over a century later, we're still fighting one—but it has nothing to do with states' rights or Southern pride. It is about racism, intolerance, and hatred. And at the center of it all are symbols that, despite the well-intended Southern narratives that have failed to reframe them as anything else, are the strongest representation of racism in our country's history.


Let me switch that last paragraph up a bit. The Nazis and the fascists lost the war. Some 72 years later we are still fighting them. 'It is about racism, intolerance, and hatred. And at the center of it all are symbols that, despite the well-intended Southern white supremacy narratives that have failed to reframe them as anything else, are the strongest representation of racism in our country's history.

We are failing those who risked and lost lives to stop the Nazis because a small group of very vocal, violent and hate-filled white people (generally men) believe they are more supreme than you and I. We are failing 'The Greatest Generation'.

This is who we are in the USA today. It's time to change that. the Holocaust was not normal. Genocide is not normal. This is not about a differing political point of view. These are people who, given the chance will kill those they deem inferior. This weekend they succeed by killing one person.

It needs to change. The White House won't do it, but somebody has to be the change.

and as always,

Raine

 

 
 
 

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Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 13:13:48
The daily news has a hellove cover today:




good morning.



Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 13:26:44
This is insanity.





Comment by BobR on 08/14/2017 13:38:50
Quote by Raine:
This is insanity.




He resigned in protest of 45 not condemning the Nazis. And his response to it is not surprising, although that makes it no less infuriating.

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2017 13:40:58
Morning


http://media.tumblr.com/1344b8d232b21dc40a5d65345ad555ad/tumblr_inline_milmcnON6n1qz4rgp.gif


Me when I see 45 voters who use this gif -

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriO3xoFSNW912GXK/giphy.gif


Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 13:50:08
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning


http://media.tumblr.com/1344b8d232b21dc40a5d65345ad555ad/tumblr_inline_milmcnON6n1qz4rgp.gif


Me when I see 45 voters who use this gif -

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriO3xoFSNW912GXK/giphy.gif






Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 13:50:51
Mornin' all..

I wanted to decompress this weekend & take a break from following the news. And then this shit happens.

Now I'm just trying to avoid social media because I don't even want to respond to these fucking people bitching about the violent left. More like the antagonized left.

Comment by BobR on 08/14/2017 13:57:24
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

I wanted to decompress this weekend & take a break from following the news. And then this shit happens.

Now I'm just trying to avoid social media because I don't even want to respond to these fucking people bitching about the violent left. More like the antagonized left.

"Why won't they just lay there and take it?"

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2017 13:58:06
Morning, folks.

There is talk that the Nazi rally in Boston may not happen. It turns out that the 23-year-old Hitlerite vermin that organized it has only just applied for a city permit, and it may not be approved.

A benign cosplay group already has a permit at the same time and place for their annual family picnic.

We'll see.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 14:02:30
Well just saw another angle the Nazi apologists are taking - the counter-protestors didn't have a permit like the Nazis did, therefore they were an illegal mob.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 14:38:46
Quote by Scoopster:
Well just saw another angle the Nazi apologists are taking - the counter-protestors didn't have a permit like the Nazis did, therefore they were an illegal mob.

They weren't in the park.

Those nazi's didn;t have a permit Friday night when they invaded the college campus statue of Jefferson.

I hate all of this.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 15:45:18
Apropos of today's blog.
Because I am old, now 94, I recognise these omens of doom. Chilling signs are everywhere, perhaps the biggest being that the US allows itself to be led by Donald Trump, a man deficient in honour, wisdom and just simple human kindness. It is as foolish for Americans to believe that their generals will save them from Trump as it was for liberal Germans to believe the military would protect the nation from Hitler’s excesses.

(snip)

This August resembles too much that of 1939; the last summer of peace until 1945. Then aged 16 and still wet behind the ears, I’d go to pictures with my mates and we’d laugh at the newsreels of Hitler and other fascist monsters that lived beyond what we thought was our reach. Little did we know in that August 1939, life without peace, without carnage, without air raids, without the blitz, could be measured in days. I did not hear the thundering approach of war, but as an old man I hear it now for my grandchildren’s generation. I hope I am wrong. But I am petrified for them.



Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2017 15:58:30
At Beth Israel Hosp with Pops, for a pre-surgery colonoscopy. He's got a 10cm mass in the distal ascending colon. From the pix it appears contained and not spreading.

Surgery next, in any case. (Not today)

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 15:59:24
Quote by TriSec:
At Beth Israel Hosp with Pops, for a pre-surgery colonoscopy. He's got a 10cm mass in the distal ascending colon. From the pix it appears contained and not spreading.

Surgery next, in any case. (Not today)



Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2017 16:08:53
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
At Beth Israel Hosp with Pops, for a pre-surgery colonoscopy. He's got a 10cm mass in the distal ascending colon. From the pix it appears contained and not spreading.

Surgery next, in any case. (Not today)





Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2017 16:09:21
Working the Buffalo radio shows today, but these Nazi fucks still have my blood boiling.

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2017 16:11:42
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 16:22:29
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2017 16:27:26
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

They supposedly were only given 24 hours to migrate to a new host.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 16:29:18
Turn on the youtube WH live stream.

I want you to see the painting they put up in the Ocal office -- 45 is about ready to give another statement


Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2017 16:32:47
Quote by Raine:
Turn on the youtube WH live stream.

I want you to see the painting they put up in the Ocal office -- 45 is about ready to give another statement



Is that the oval office? Didn't recall there being murals in there.


Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 16:41:06
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Turn on the youtube WH live stream.

I want you to see the painting they put up in the Ocal office -- 45 is about ready to give another statement

Is that the oval office? Didn't recall there being murals in there.

You know if he wanted that kind of view he could have just gone to Camp David or something like a normal fucking President...

Comment by clintster on 08/14/2017 16:42:22
He starts off with a coattail brag. Figures.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 16:46:18
So were these renovations to the Oval just to turn it into nothing but a broadcasting studio?

Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2017 16:49:03
Quote by Scoopster:
So were these renovations to the Oval just to turn it into nothing but a broadcasting studio?


Its not the Oval office, its the Diplomatic Reception room

Comment by clintster on 08/14/2017 16:50:12
Well, that certainly was a teleprompter reading.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 16:50:46
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
So were these renovations to the Oval just to turn it into nothing but a broadcasting studio?


Its not the Oval office, its the Diplomatic Reception room

Ahhh okay.. I was a lil bewildered there for a sec.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 17:03:51
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Scoopster:
So were these renovations to the Oval just to turn it into nothing but a broadcasting studio?


Its not the Oval office, its the Diplomatic Reception room

Ahhh okay.. I was a lil bewildered there for a sec.
I was off looking for that.

and you figured it out I should have come back here. Those weren't paintings, it was wallpaper saved by Jackie Kennedy

Does anyone believe that THAT imagery was coincidental?




Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 17:04:31
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Turn on the youtube WH live stream.

I want you to see the painting they put up in the Ocal office -- 45 is about ready to give another statement



Is that the oval office? Didn't recall there being murals in there.
After I posted it, I realized that fireplace was not the Oval's. Thanks for checking it!


Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 17:09:37
Yes, I Am THAT JADED by this White Supremacist sympathizer.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 17:18:17



Comment by wickedpam on 08/14/2017 17:29:28
Quote by Raine:
Yes, I Am THAT JADED by this White Supremacist sympathizer.

I am too, but since they are doing renovations in the WH it is possible that this was the most open room available.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 17:43:11


It sounds all too damn familiar.

Problem is We don't have LBJ as president -- we have the ghosts of Hoover in the DOJ and a supremacist sympathizer in office.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 18:23:34
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

They supposedly were only given 24 hours to migrate to a new host.

Heh.. they went to Google, and Google suspended them for TOS almost immediately.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 18:27:19
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

They supposedly were only given 24 hours to migrate to a new host.

Heh.. they went to Google, and Google suspended them for TOS almost immediately.
AWESOME!


Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 18:28:38
This POS.




Comment by livingonli on 08/14/2017 18:37:56
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

They supposedly were only given 24 hours to migrate to a new host.

Heh.. they went to Google, and Google suspended them for TOS almost immediately.
AWESOME!

Word is floating that the Anonymous hack is actually them trying to create a conspiracy theory since at this rate with no new host, the site will die tomorrow. Nothing like playing the victim for pity which they always accuse women, Liberals, and dark-skinned people of doing.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 18:41:45
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

They supposedly were only given 24 hours to migrate to a new host.

Heh.. they went to Google, and Google suspended them for TOS almost immediately.
AWESOME!

Word is floating that the Anonymous hack is actually them trying to create a conspiracy theory since at this rate with no new host, the site will die tomorrow. Nothing like playing the victim for pity which they always accuse women, Liberals, and dark-skinned people of doing.

That would make total sense since Anonymous was borne from 4chan, the same place that has hosted a huge community of anarchist/hate trolls for over a decade.

Comment by Raine on 08/14/2017 19:07:28
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by livingonli:
Apparently, Anonymous has shut down the Daily Stormer as well.

I saw that and was confused, since GoDaddy said they suspended the website's registration.

They supposedly were only given 24 hours to migrate to a new host.

Heh.. they went to Google, and Google suspended them for TOS almost immediately.
AWESOME!

Word is floating that the Anonymous hack is actually them trying to create a conspiracy theory since at this rate with no new host, the site will die tomorrow. Nothing like playing the victim for pity which they always accuse women, Liberals, and dark-skinned people of doing.

That would make total sense since Anonymous was borne from 4chan, the same place that has hosted a huge community of anarchist/hate trolls for over a decade.

YEah I have been trying to follow that confusing story.

I;m just glad they are not welcome.

Who hosts Storm Front?

Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 19:30:38
Quote by Raine:
YEah I have been trying to follow that confusing story.

I;m just glad they are not welcome.

Who hosts Storm Front?

Looks like Network Solutions/Cloudflare.


Comment by Scoopster on 08/14/2017 19:31:53
Hmmm.. Mayor Walsh just announced that the Nazi goons haven't applied for a permit for this rally theyre planning on Saturday.

Comment by TriSec on 08/14/2017 20:24:00
Making a "sorta-touille" with fresh eggplants and tomatoes from my garden.

(missing an ingredient or two, but I'll make it work.)