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It's not enough.
Author: Raine
Date: 10/25/2017 13:09:47
It's a start, but it's not enough. Corker and Flake are retiring and now are free to speak their minds, but as the Washington Post Editorial board states, it is not enough.
Here is the thing, I know who they are; They are Republicans. They'll vote party line over 90% of the time. Same goes for Murkowski and Collins. I'm am a Dem and I expect my party members to do the same. That isn't really the problem
The problem is what the party has become. It's Trump party. It's not even conservative anymore. It's extreme authoritarianism and as long as they stay silent either in or out of office, they are complicit. They haven't even begun to show how terrible things are behind the scenes.
So, I applaud Jeff Flake and Bob Corker for taking a first step, now this country needs them to drag some more people along into the light. They are no heroes but they are speaking out, and we need more people from that side of the aisle to do so. This is about Country over any party at this point.
If not, we can kiss our Nation -- both the one we knew and the one we had strived to truly become -- goodbye.
and 
Raine
Here is the thing, I know who they are; They are Republicans. They'll vote party line over 90% of the time. Same goes for Murkowski and Collins. I'm am a Dem and I expect my party members to do the same. That isn't really the problem
The problem is what the party has become. It's Trump party. It's not even conservative anymore. It's extreme authoritarianism and as long as they stay silent either in or out of office, they are complicit. They haven't even begun to show how terrible things are behind the scenes.
So, I applaud Jeff Flake and Bob Corker for taking a first step, now this country needs them to drag some more people along into the light. They are no heroes but they are speaking out, and we need more people from that side of the aisle to do so. This is about Country over any party at this point.
If not, we can kiss our Nation -- both the one we knew and the one we had strived to truly become -- goodbye.
and Raine
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Comment by 
Raine on 10/25/2017 13:16:31
Raine on 10/25/2017 13:16:31
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/25/2017 13:21:52
Scoopster on 10/25/2017 13:21:52
Mornin' all.. 
So I'm not trying to get ahead of things, but wanted to take stock of the current situation. in order to convict on an impeachment in the Senate a 2/3 vote is required, or 67 Senators. So far we have 46 Dems, Bernie & Angus, McCain, Flake, Corker and perhaps Collins & Murkowski. That's 53.
After that.. we know Graham and Rubio aren't fans, plus Rubio will soon have at least 200k Puerto Ricans taking up temporary residence in Florida. Oh, and I bet there will be a lot of refugees from PR going to Texas as well. Hi there, Cruz & Cornyn.
And then there's Alabama. I'm going to admit I don't see us winning this one, but the signs there are encouraging and Doug Jones is running a great campaign against a notoriously bad POS.
So I'm not trying to get ahead of things, but wanted to take stock of the current situation. in order to convict on an impeachment in the Senate a 2/3 vote is required, or 67 Senators. So far we have 46 Dems, Bernie & Angus, McCain, Flake, Corker and perhaps Collins & Murkowski. That's 53.
After that.. we know Graham and Rubio aren't fans, plus Rubio will soon have at least 200k Puerto Ricans taking up temporary residence in Florida. Oh, and I bet there will be a lot of refugees from PR going to Texas as well. Hi there, Cruz & Cornyn.
And then there's Alabama. I'm going to admit I don't see us winning this one, but the signs there are encouraging and Doug Jones is running a great campaign against a notoriously bad POS.
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 13:24:23
Raine on 10/25/2017 13:24:23
I am glad I read this after I wrote my blog. It's NOT enough, but I am still glad he said this.
Flake has an op-ed today.
Flake has an op-ed today.
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 13:25:39
. That's not a bad assessment.
I do believe Florida will turn a lot more purple -- maybe blue with all the people moving there.
Raine on 10/25/2017 13:25:39
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
So I'm not trying to get ahead of things, but wanted to take stock of the current situation. in order to convict on an impeachment in the Senate a 2/3 vote is required, or 67 Senators. So far we have 46 Dems, Bernie & Angus, McCain, Flake, Corker and perhaps Collins & Murkowski. That's 53.
After that.. we know Graham and Rubio aren't fans, plus Rubio will soon have at least 200k Puerto Ricans taking up temporary residence in Florida. Oh, and I bet there will be a lot of refugees from PR going to Texas as well. Hi there, Cruz & Cornyn.
I do believe Florida will turn a lot more purple -- maybe blue with all the people moving there.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/25/2017 13:30:43
wickedpam on 10/25/2017 13:30:43
Morning 
It used to be there was some overlap between the parties and they could get to a solution even coming at a problem from different angles but now that's all gone.
It used to be there was some overlap between the parties and they could get to a solution even coming at a problem from different angles but now that's all gone.
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 13:33:58
The hatred of a black PResident has maligned itself into the soul of that party, I am afraid.
They are now a party of hate and greed as it stands now, and only they can change the political atmosphere now.
Raine on 10/25/2017 13:33:58
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
It used to be there was some overlap between the parties and they could get to a solution even coming at a problem from different angles but now that's all gone.
They are now a party of hate and greed as it stands now, and only they can change the political atmosphere now.
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 13:53:19
I liked what Chelsea Clinton said about this.
She questioned the gutting of the park service budget.
You see, this is just another way to take our parks away from everyone but the wealthy.It's killing the commons.
Raine on 10/25/2017 13:53:19
Quote by Scoopster:
National Park entrance fees are going up... A LOT.
She questioned the gutting of the park service budget.
You see, this is just another way to take our parks away from everyone but the wealthy.It's killing the commons.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/25/2017 13:59:03
Scoopster on 10/25/2017 13:59:03
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:03:18
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:03:18
Raine, you link goes to a Raw Story page, not the WaPo.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:06:18
Oh, fuck the Doughy Pantload that is Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg. He is as responsible for mainstreaming bullshit like Moore's just as any other Republican pundit. eff him in the ear holes, eff him in his eyeballs. Just eff that ass clown.
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:06:18
Quote by Scoopster:
Okay wow... even Jonah Goldberg has jumped off the Roy Moore bandwagon.
Oh, fuck the Doughy Pantload that is Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg. He is as responsible for mainstreaming bullshit like Moore's just as any other Republican pundit. eff him in the ear holes, eff him in his eyeballs. Just eff that ass clown.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/25/2017 14:12:39
I'll admit, his reasoning is pretty consistent for a conservative insider - totally wrapped up in self-interest and advancing their own greedy interests, and the sentiment of course is waaaay too late to be anything but jumping on McCain's also-late bandwagon.
But ermm.. hey.. sometimes you need to put your a....a.... animosity aside and, y'know, team up for a common goal. Err yeah, that's it.
C'mere Jonah let's hug it out!
....
Scoopster on 10/25/2017 14:12:39
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Okay wow... even Jonah Goldberg has jumped off the Roy Moore bandwagon.
Oh, fuck the Doughy Pantload that is Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg. He is as responsible for mainstreaming bullshit like Moore's just as any other Republican pundit. eff him in the ear holes, eff him in his eyeballs. Just eff that ass clown.
I'll admit, his reasoning is pretty consistent for a conservative insider - totally wrapped up in self-interest and advancing their own greedy interests, and the sentiment of course is waaaay too late to be anything but jumping on McCain's also-late bandwagon.
But ermm.. hey.. sometimes you need to put your a....a.... animosity aside and, y'know, team up for a common goal. Err yeah, that's it.
C'mere Jonah let's hug it out!
....
Comment by 
TriSec on 10/25/2017 14:14:29
TriSec on 10/25/2017 14:14:29
Just before 2am on the morning of 15 April 1912, Commander Lightholler ordered all the passengers still aboard to move to the starboard side in order to correct a strong list to port so the loading of lifeboats could still be carried out.
The ship still went down.
The ship still went down.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:24:26
Stopped clock moment, that's all Scoop. He will go back to be awful tomorrow.
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:24:26
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Okay wow... even Jonah Goldberg has jumped off the Roy Moore bandwagon.
Oh, fuck the Doughy Pantload that is Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg. He is as responsible for mainstreaming bullshit like Moore's just as any other Republican pundit. eff him in the ear holes, eff him in his eyeballs. Just eff that ass clown.
I'll admit, his reasoning is pretty consistent for a conservative insider - totally wrapped up in self-interest and advancing their own greedy interests, and the sentiment of course is waaaay too late to be anything but jumping on McCain's also-late bandwagon.
But ermm.. hey.. sometimes you need to put your a....a.... animosity aside and, y'know, team up for a common goal. Err yeah, that's it.
C'mere Jonah let's hug it out!
....
Stopped clock moment, that's all Scoop. He will go back to be awful tomorrow.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/25/2017 14:39:29
Oh I don't even think he's stopped! His reasoning for opposing Roy Moore is pathetic and selfish, but if it helps take him down in December then so be it.
Scoopster on 10/25/2017 14:39:29
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Okay wow... even Jonah Goldberg has jumped off the Roy Moore bandwagon.
Oh, fuck the Doughy Pantload that is Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg. He is as responsible for mainstreaming bullshit like Moore's just as any other Republican pundit. eff him in the ear holes, eff him in his eyeballs. Just eff that ass clown.
I'll admit, his reasoning is pretty consistent for a conservative insider - totally wrapped up in self-interest and advancing their own greedy interests, and the sentiment of course is waaaay too late to be anything but jumping on McCain's also-late bandwagon.
But ermm.. hey.. sometimes you need to put your a....a.... animosity aside and, y'know, team up for a common goal. Err yeah, that's it.
C'mere Jonah let's hug it out!
....
Stopped clock moment, that's all Scoop. He will go back to be awful tomorrow.
Oh I don't even think he's stopped! His reasoning for opposing Roy Moore is pathetic and selfish, but if it helps take him down in December then so be it.
Comment by Scoopster on 10/25/2017 14:42:17
Scoopster on 10/25/2017 14:42:17
Fats Domino has died. Damn I didn't realize he was still with us.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:47:40
:Currently resisting the temptation to use the title of a Fats Domino hit in response. That would be awful:
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 14:47:40
Quote by Raine:
RIP Fats Domino.
:Currently resisting the temptation to use the title of a Fats Domino hit in response. That would be awful:
Comment by wickedpam on 10/25/2017 14:49:35
Same
wickedpam on 10/25/2017 14:49:35
Quote by Scoopster:
Fats Domino has died. Damn I didn't realize he was still with us.
Same
Comment by 
BobR on 10/25/2017 15:21:48
BobR on 10/25/2017 15:21:48
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 15:44:24
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 15:44:24
Apropos of nothing, in particular, except that Wonkette is calling her out again, Maggie Haberman's a massive tool.
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 15:56:40
Raine on 10/25/2017 15:56:40
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 15:57:07
Raine on 10/25/2017 15:57:07
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 16:01:03
A whole lotta people on Twitter did as well.
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 16:01:03
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Said Wonkette article.
Oliver Willis was calling her out about this.
A whole lotta people on Twitter did as well.
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/25/2017 16:30:13
livingonli on 10/25/2017 16:30:13
I wish someone could find whether Trump paid for a woman's abortion or forced a woman to have one even if he didn't pay.
Comment by TriSec on 10/25/2017 18:19:01
TriSec on 10/25/2017 18:19:01
I have not had cause to regret my decision to leave the healthcare industry. I remain in touch with a dear friend from several jobs ago, and she reports to me this morning that my decision, may in fact, be vindicated.
A stalwart of the local healthcare business has just had a major restructuring - the CEO was "demoted" and removed from the board, and about 300 layoffs just occurred.
My friend narrowly missed the axe; nine persons in her department are no longer employed this week.
Not sure if it's foreshadowing or not, but since the former CEO is the cousin of a former President (GWB), I believe he is in a position to read the tea leaves.
A stalwart of the local healthcare business has just had a major restructuring - the CEO was "demoted" and removed from the board, and about 300 layoffs just occurred.
My friend narrowly missed the axe; nine persons in her department are no longer employed this week.
Not sure if it's foreshadowing or not, but since the former CEO is the cousin of a former President (GWB), I believe he is in a position to read the tea leaves.
Comment by Raine on 10/25/2017 18:30:27
Yikes.
Raine on 10/25/2017 18:30:27
Quote by TriSec:
I have not had cause to regret my decision to leave the healthcare industry. I remain in touch with a dear friend from several jobs ago, and she reports to me this morning that my decision, may in fact, be vindicated.
A stalwart of the local healthcare business has just had a major restructuring - the CEO was "demoted" and removed from the board, and about 300 layoffs just occurred.
My friend narrowly missed the axe; nine persons in her department are no longer employed this week.
Not sure if it's foreshadowing or not, but since the former CEO is the cousin of a former President (GWB), I believe he is in a position to read the tea leaves.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 20:54:06
Just say your work wife from Athena told you this and CEO in Johnathan Bush! You needn't be so elliptical, dude. I mean they announced the layoffs on the 19th.
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 20:54:06
Quote by TriSec:
I have not had cause to regret my decision to leave the healthcare industry. I remain in touch with a dear friend from several jobs ago, and she reports to me this morning that my decision, may in fact, be vindicated.
A stalwart of the local healthcare business has just had a major restructuring - the CEO was "demoted" and removed from the board, and about 300 layoffs just occurred.
My friend narrowly missed the axe; nine persons in her department are no longer employed this week.
Not sure if it's foreshadowing or not, but since the former CEO is the cousin of a former President (GWB), I believe he is in a position to read the tea leaves.
Just say your work wife from Athena told you this and CEO in Johnathan Bush! You needn't be so elliptical, dude. I mean they announced the layoffs on the 19th.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 21:31:49
Mondobubba on 10/25/2017 21:31:49
Just used this GIF on a post from Louie Gohmert.
