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Desperate Times
Author: BobR    Date: 12/07/2017 15:10:28

Desperation makes people (or groups) do desperate things. The GOP - despite controlling the House, Senate, and Executive branch - sense that their window of opportunity is limited, due to their gross incompetence and galling self-interest. They can't help themselves in that latter aspect, but they're not even being remotely clever about it.

With tRump, they have the equivalent of that drunk rowdy friend who does all the outrageous things that make their own transgressions look tame by comparison. With the Mueller investigation already bearing fruit (and the revelation that he's subpoenaed tRump's financial records from money-laundering Deutche Bank), the writing is on the wall. By mid 2018, we could have an appointed president (ala Gerald Ford), and that's a scary unknown for the Republicans.

It's too late of course, but Republicans are attempting to reign in Mueller, by trying to taint his organically growing investigation as partisan. If they can discredit it enough, they can label it "fake news", even if tRump is led away in shackles. They have only their precursors to blame, of course, as Clinton's Whitewater investigation turned into a tawdry sex scandal with an intern.

Part of that strategy is calling out isolated incidents of potential political bias by members of the FBI or Judiciary. Facts are facts, however, regardless of the motivations for uncovering and documenting them, and cannot be ignored by the investigators once found. Was Kenneth Star unbiased? We all know the answer to that one.

Knowing that they could lose the AL seat due to Roy Moore's penchant for peccadilloes with pubescents (as well as a potential tidal wave of blowback in the 2018 elections), they are desperately trying to push out as many Dems from Congress as possible, using our own morality against us. Not every hug is a sexual predatory act, people. We all have our ways of showing affection, some more demonstrative than others.

Meanwhile in the House, nearly 60 Dems tried to get a vote on articles of impeachment for tRump. It was voted down by every Republican and most of the Dems (including Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer). I kind of agree that it's a bit premature - better to wait until Mueller's investigation is complete. Why?

1) Best to wait for an ironclad case, with crimes documented that might mean jail time
2) An impeachment hearing might put pressure on Mueller to end the investigation
3) The longer the investigation goes on, the more likely it is that more people will get dragged under.

Knowing this, you'd think the Republicans would be willing to cut tRump loose to save themselves. Cornered desperate animals, however, don't always think about the best strategy - they just react savagely.

 
 

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Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 13:13:33
Mornin' all! No yet but it's brewing. Here's some Olympic to chew on while you wait.






Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 13:19:12



Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 13:27:55
Politico: two anonymous people have put up $5M in property as collateral for Rick Gates's bond.

If this isn't totally shady I don't know what is. Keep in mind that between with his real estate connections, Manafort with his construction ones, the Mercers, the Russians, etc. this is no stretch at all for them.

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2017 14:11:40
Thanks Scoop - were you planning on writing a blog, or did you just need a thread to post the story links?

Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 14:16:00
Quote by BobR:
Thanks Scoop - were you planning on writing a blog, or did you just need a thread to post the story links?

Nah I didn't have a blog, I'm just particularly pissed off at the state of the world this morning & wanted to share some of the stuff that looked important.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2017 14:17:10
Morning

Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 14:24:47
WHOA... Scored an OWN GOAL on Cernovich & the brownshirt fake truth squad!





Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2017 14:48:50
Well that interview on the show was kind of depressing.

*sigh* I would love to be able to just drop everything and take to the streets at a moments notice but adulting limits the things I can do. And just because I am not out there doesn't me I support fascism. But thanks for making me feel like I'm not doing anything and an abject failure at resisting.

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2017 15:11:17
BLOG IS POSTED

Comment by BobR on 12/07/2017 15:13:27
Quote by wickedpam:
Well that interview on the show was kind of depressing.

*sigh* I would love to be able to just drop everything and take to the streets at a moments notice but adulting limits the things I can do. And just because I am not out there doesn't me I support fascism. But thanks for making me feel like I'm not doing anything and an abject failure at resisting.

I get the emails and texts nearly every day, and I work a couple blocks from the Capitol building. I join them on my lunch hour when things line up, but at 2:00 in the afternoon, I have to be at my desk.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 15:33:43
PRIMAL SCREAM!


good morning.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/07/2017 15:38:11
I find myself at a crossroads today.

I want to see what Al Franken has to say later when he addresses the Senate and what happens afterwards helps me to decide whether I continue to give a shit about this country or not.

If he confesses to everything, including the anonymous complaints and decides to step down, fine. I'll be extremely disappointed but whatever.

If he says he's staying in and demands an Ethics investigation and so-called Democrats continue to call for his resignation.....then Fuck This Country. What the fuck happened to due process. Especially when the "Party of Law & Order" has no problem with an ADMITTED sexual offender as President and probably will seat a FUCKING CHILD MOLESTER as Senator. You've just placed a target on every Democratic Senator's back with a note saying "KICK ME"

You can be able to not tolerate sexual abuse and be for giving a person the right to face his accusers.

I have plenty of things in the medicine chest to take care of me........

/mindless rant off

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2017 15:43:11


Morning, comrades. What nutfuckery is coming out of Washington today?



Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 15:46:54
I've already seen conclusive proof that all of the photo evidence against Franken has been manipulated.

But now the problem is there's an abundance of accusers. He's never gonna be able to shake this stigma, even with an ethics investigation. This is the same shit they've been doing to Hillary Clinton for 40 years.

But like I said yesterday, this is him taking one for the team. Now Roy Moore has no excuse to drop out, and is exposed on this issue too.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 15:59:12
Quote by Scoopster:
I've already seen conclusive proof that all of the photo evidence against Franken has been manipulated.

But now the problem is there's an abundance of accusers. He's never gonna be able to shake this stigma, even with an ethics investigation. This is the same shit they've been doing to Hillary Clinton for 40 years.

But like I said yesterday, this is him taking one for the team. Now Roy Moore has no excuse to drop out, and is exposed on this issue too.
And herein lies the problem--

Republicans don't EVER take and road unless they can find the LOWEST road.

Read this over on DU, and I tend to agree:

Now that Democratic Senators refuse an Ethics Committee investigation

Now that they have essentially enacted a "zero tolerance" policy without a case by case review of the facts and severity.
Now that they are doing this they are leaving OUR PARTY open to attack.
Like the ACORN debacle.

This is a gift to the GOP.



Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 16:07:30




Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/07/2017 16:14:23
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
I've already seen conclusive proof that all of the photo evidence against Franken has been manipulated.

But now the problem is there's an abundance of accusers. He's never gonna be able to shake this stigma, even with an ethics investigation. This is the same shit they've been doing to Hillary Clinton for 40 years.

But like I said yesterday, this is him taking one for the team. Now Roy Moore has no excuse to drop out, and is exposed on this issue too.
And herein lies the problem--

Republicans don't EVER take and road unless they can find the LOWEST road.

Read this over on DU, and I tend to agree:

Now that Democratic Senators refuse an Ethics Committee investigation

Now that they have essentially enacted a "zero tolerance" policy without a case by case review of the facts and severity.
Now that they are doing this they are leaving OUR PARTY open to attack.
Like the ACORN debacle.

This is a gift to the GOP.


Anyone watch The Orville's episode "Majority Rules"?

I don't doubt in the least that many in the "Democratic" leadership don't like the fact that Franken supports Net Neutrality and are probably looking for their latest check from Verizon and AT&T.


Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 16:56:47
Frenken just signaled that a women will take his place.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/07/2017 16:57:38
Quote by Raine:
Frenken just signaled that a women will take his place.



I've heard that is going to be the Lt Gov of MN.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 16:58:08
FRANKEN:

There is irony that I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about assaulting women is in the Oval Office and a man who has repeatedly preyed on young girls is running for Senate w/ full support of his party.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/07/2017 17:04:14
That does it. Fuck the Democrats and fuck this country. I'm done.

Wonder who is the next Senator that gets ratfucked by this treasonous cabal, probably Warren.

Why bother having a fucking Ethics commission?

RAND PAUL was right about the 2nd Amendment.

Comment by TriSec on 12/07/2017 17:04:53
As I just posited on the book of face...empowering sex crime victims to speak out is a good thing.

But did we also switch to "Guilty until proven innocent" as part of the bargain?



Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 17:24:51
Quote by trojanrabbit:
That does it. Fuck the Democrats and fuck this country. I'm done.

Wonder who is the next Senator that gets ratfucked by this treasonous cabal, probably Warren.

Why bother having a fucking Ethics commission?

RAND PAUL was right about the 2nd Amendment.

I'm going the exact opposite way right now. Especially after see the emotional reactions of a good number of the Senators who yesterday called for him to resign.

We shouldn't be saying fuck the Democrats. We should be saying FUCK THE REPUBLICANS for doing this to someone who was an outspoken champion for our values.

We should be saying 'those motherfuckers are gonna pay dearly for this transgression'. And then we all get out there and make sure it happens with every amount of effort we can muster.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/07/2017 17:40:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
That does it. Fuck the Democrats and fuck this country. I'm done.

Wonder who is the next Senator that gets ratfucked by this treasonous cabal, probably Warren.

Why bother having a fucking Ethics commission?

RAND PAUL was right about the 2nd Amendment.

I'm going the exact opposite way right now. Especially after see the emotional reactions of a good number of the Senators who yesterday called for him to resign.

We shouldn't be saying fuck the Democrats. We should be saying FUCK THE REPUBLICANS for doing this to someone who was an outspoken champion for our values.

We should be saying 'those motherfuckers are gonna pay dearly for this transgression'. And then we all get out there and make sure it happens with every amount of effort we can muster.


These "Democrats" deserve as much support as the Republicans do.....ZERO.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/07/2017 17:56:33
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
That does it. Fuck the Democrats and fuck this country. I'm done.

Wonder who is the next Senator that gets ratfucked by this treasonous cabal, probably Warren.

Why bother having a fucking Ethics commission?

RAND PAUL was right about the 2nd Amendment.

I'm going the exact opposite way right now. Especially after see the emotional reactions of a good number of the Senators who yesterday called for him to resign.

We shouldn't be saying fuck the Democrats. We should be saying FUCK THE REPUBLICANS for doing this to someone who was an outspoken champion for our values.

We should be saying 'those motherfuckers are gonna pay dearly for this transgression'. And then we all get out there and make sure it happens with every amount of effort we can muster.

These "Democrats" deserve as much support as the Republicans do.....ZERO.

WHY? Because they KNEW their only two options were stand behind him en masse & deal with an ethics investigation which would blow all their arguments against Moore and Trump's own misogyny & sexual abuse; OR stand against him en masse, keep that advantage & maybe FINALLY take the values mantle away from a party that has consistently proven for 40 years that IT HAS NO DAMN VALUES EXCEPT MONEY AND HATRED.

This wasn't some blase decision the Senate Democrats had to make, TR. They had to cut off a fellow advocate, a colleague, a friend, an ally in the trenches. And they probably did it with his blessing, because he knew he couldn't overcome a rolling ball of bullshit once it gathered momentum no matter how much evidence was found during an ethics investigation might prove otherwise.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 18:18:13
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
That does it. Fuck the Democrats and fuck this country. I'm done.

Wonder who is the next Senator that gets ratfucked by this treasonous cabal, probably Warren.

Why bother having a fucking Ethics commission?

RAND PAUL was right about the 2nd Amendment.

I'm going the exact opposite way right now. Especially after see the emotional reactions of a good number of the Senators who yesterday called for him to resign.

We shouldn't be saying fuck the Democrats. We should be saying FUCK THE REPUBLICANS for doing this to someone who was an outspoken champion for our values.

We should be saying 'those motherfuckers are gonna pay dearly for this transgression'. And then we all get out there and make sure it happens with every amount of effort we can muster.

These "Democrats" deserve as much support as the Republicans do.....ZERO.

WHY? Because they KNEW their only two options were stand behind him en masse & deal with an ethics investigation which would blow all their arguments against Moore and Trump's own misogyny & sexual abuse; OR stand against him en masse, keep that advantage & maybe FINALLY take the values mantle away from a party that has consistently proven for 40 years that IT HAS NO DAMN VALUES EXCEPT MONEY AND HATRED.

This wasn't some blase decision the Senate Democrats had to make, TR. They had to cut off a fellow advocate, a colleague, a friend, an ally in the trenches. And they probably did it with his blessing, because he knew he couldn't overcome a rolling ball of bullshit once it gathered momentum no matter how much evidence was found during an ethics investigation might prove otherwise.


If I may chime in here.

Franken said something very interesting today. He said he would be resigning in the coming weeks, as opposed to leaving immediately.

Do you not find that curious? He is STILL in the Senate.


Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 18:20:31
This is what I was trying to say on TUTN Tuesday.






Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/07/2017 18:20:41
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
That does it. Fuck the Democrats and fuck this country. I'm done.

Wonder who is the next Senator that gets ratfucked by this treasonous cabal, probably Warren.

Why bother having a fucking Ethics commission?

RAND PAUL was right about the 2nd Amendment.

I'm going the exact opposite way right now. Especially after see the emotional reactions of a good number of the Senators who yesterday called for him to resign.

We shouldn't be saying fuck the Democrats. We should be saying FUCK THE REPUBLICANS for doing this to someone who was an outspoken champion for our values.

We should be saying 'those motherfuckers are gonna pay dearly for this transgression'. And then we all get out there and make sure it happens with every amount of effort we can muster.

These "Democrats" deserve as much support as the Republicans do.....ZERO.

WHY? Because they KNEW their only two options were stand behind him en masse & deal with an ethics investigation which would blow all their arguments against Moore and Trump's own misogyny & sexual abuse; OR stand against him en masse, keep that advantage & maybe FINALLY take the values mantle away from a party that has consistently proven for 40 years that IT HAS NO DAMN VALUES EXCEPT MONEY AND HATRED.

This wasn't some blase decision the Senate Democrats had to make, TR. They had to cut off a fellow advocate, a colleague, a friend, an ally in the trenches. And they probably did it with his blessing, because he knew he couldn't overcome a rolling ball of bullshit once it gathered momentum no matter how much evidence was found during an ethics investigation might prove otherwise.

And stabbing Franken in the back will do nothing to improve their fortunes. Who's the next Senator to get the weaponized bullshit gun trained on them? Do we throw that Senator to wolves even faster?
And it wouldn't surprise me one bit that some of these "Democrats" found something extra in their bank account today.

Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 18:43:25




Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/07/2017 19:08:20
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Why not?

Burn it down.

Let me guess......all the Democrats get kicked out.....all the Republicans laugh and molest a few more for shits and giggles.

Comment by livingonli on 12/07/2017 19:14:49
Comment by Raine on 12/07/2017 19:25:16
Quote by livingonli:
We live in hell!

I am so fucking sick of these people.

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